From: Julian Bradfield on 5 Jan 2010 18:27 On the off chance that there are still some physicists lurking here - is it possible to give an intuitive explanation of why spin 1/2 baryons with three same-flavour quarks do not exist? A wikipedia article says "because of Pauli exclusion", but I can't see how to use this. On a similar note, is there a way to explain intuitively the difference between Lambda^0 and Sigma^0 without using the word "isospin"? Intuitive means "suitable for a six-year old" - so no 3 \otimes \overline{3} = 1 \oplus 8 \oplus 8 \oplus 10 !
From: Androcles on 5 Jan 2010 18:44 "Julian Bradfield" <jcb(a)inf.ed.ac.uk> wrote in message news:hi0hsk$cl1$1(a)scotsman.ed.ac.uk... > On the off chance that there are still some physicists lurking here - > is it possible to give an intuitive explanation of why spin 1/2 > baryons with three same-flavour quarks do not exist? > A wikipedia article says "because of Pauli exclusion", but I can't see > how to use this. > > On a similar note, is there a way to explain intuitively the > difference between Lambda^0 and Sigma^0 without using the word > "isospin"? > > Intuitive means "suitable for a six-year old" - so no > 3 \otimes \overline{3} = 1 \oplus 8 \oplus 8 \oplus 10 ! What you need is a theoretical physicist, not a real one. As for intuition, the Sun circles the flat Earth as any six-year-old understands intuitively. He can see it does. Reason may say otherwise but that clashes with his intuition. It takes a lot of careful explaining from an early age to overcome faith and if the teacher believes nonsense then who does the child turn to for enlightenment?
From: Mike Jr on 5 Jan 2010 23:29 On Jan 5, 6:27 pm, Julian Bradfield <j...(a)inf.ed.ac.uk> wrote: > On the off chance that there are still some physicists lurking here - > is it possible to give an intuitive explanation of why spin 1/2 > baryons with three same-flavour quarks do not exist? > A wikipedia article says "because of Pauli exclusion", but I can't see > how to use this. > > On a similar note, is there a way to explain intuitively the > difference between Lambda^0 and Sigma^0 without using the word > "isospin"? > > Intuitive means "suitable for a six-year old" - so no > 3 \otimes \overline{3} = 1 \oplus 8 \oplus 8 \oplus 10 ! Does Bell's inequality make it any easier? http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/9701089 --Mike Jr.
From: nuny on 6 Jan 2010 02:08 On Jan 5, 3:27 pm, Julian Bradfield <j...(a)inf.ed.ac.uk> wrote: > On the off chance that there are still some physicists lurking here - > is it possible to give an intuitive explanation of why spin 1/2 > baryons with three same-flavour quarks do not exist? > A wikipedia article says "because of Pauli exclusion", but I can't see > how to use this. It's not obvious. The individual spins of the quarks must be added according to a set of exclusion rules, the orbital angular momentum of the quarks about each other also must be added according to a different set of rules, then the spin and orbital angular momenta must be added: (beware link wrap) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baryons#Spin.2C_orbital_angular_momentum.2C_and_total_angular_momentum > On a similar note, is there a way to explain intuitively the > difference between Lambda^0 and Sigma^0 without using the word > "isospin"? No. > Intuitive means "suitable for a six-year old" - so no > 3 \otimes \overline{3} = 1 \oplus 8 \oplus 8 \oplus 10 ! Glad to help. Mark L. Fergerson
From: eric gisse on 6 Jan 2010 02:40 Julian Bradfield wrote: > On the off chance that there are still some physicists lurking here - > is it possible to give an intuitive explanation of why spin 1/2 > baryons with three same-flavour quarks do not exist? > A wikipedia article says "because of Pauli exclusion", but I can't see > how to use this. You can't have Fermions (non-integer spin) share a quantum state with another Fermion. > > On a similar note, is there a way to explain intuitively the > difference between Lambda^0 and Sigma^0 without using the word > "isospin"? > > Intuitive means "suitable for a six-year old" - so no > 3 \otimes \overline{3} = 1 \oplus 8 \oplus 8 \oplus 10 ! You want the standard model of particle physics reduced to a six year old's level of understanding? Wake me when that's been done for law.
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