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From: paul on 10 Mar 2010 21:50 On Mar 7, 1:53 am, Robby Workman <newsgro...(a)rlworkman.net> wrote: > On 2010-03-06, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 3, 6:08 am, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Mar 2, 7:50 pm, Robby Workman <newsgro...(a)rlworkman.net> wrote: > > >> > On 2010-03-03, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > I need radeon kms to use my x1900GT video card with dri. Once xf86- > >> > > video-ati-0.6.13 is released which is said to be imminent on phoronix, > >> > > can we get radeon kms support? As of 2.6.33 kernel support for radeon > >> > > kms is promoted out of experimental status. > > >> > It's present in the 2.6.33 kernel in -current now, but it's not > >> > enabled by default. > > >> > -RW > > >> If it is not enabled by default, I have to recompile the kernel, > >> mesa , libdrm, and xf86-video-ati to use it, do I not? . I have > >> actually done this with a rc kernel, but I would like to see my > >> hardware supported "out of the box". Fedora 12 works "out of the box", > >> Ubuntu 10.04 alpha3 works "out of the box", and archlinux "testing" > >> works "out of the box". > >> Fedora and Ubuntu are very difficult for me to work with because they > >> are so complex, being crowded with innovations that make them fit for > >> either a completely novice user or a developer, but no one in between. > >> I am more comfortable with Slackware which has conventions which > >> someone with my intermediate level of knowledge can make sense of and > >> work with. Archlinux is also usable, but is a strictly rolling release > >> and overtime they are pretty sure to drop support for my card during > >> their evolution. > > > I recompiled 2.6.33 with radeon kms enabled and used src2pkg & souce > > tarball to get a xf86-video-ati-0.6.12.191 package. Card works good > > now. However I still think 2.6.33 should come packaged with radeon kms > > enable and xf86-video-ati-0.6.12.191 should be in extra. > > Enabling radeon kms by default would be a horrible idea, as > many cards would not work at all. In fact, I wouldn't expect > us to enable it by default until the userspace driver requires > it (just like we did for the intel driver). > > You don't need to recompile a kernel at all to enable it. > Here's what was in 13.0's CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT file: > > If you want to try the new kernel mode setting (KMS), you don't have to > build a custom kernel; add this to your kernel's lilo stanza: > append = "i915.modeset=1" > > Obviously that's not completely accurate now, since *i915* modesetting > is enabled by default. However, I am quite certain that you can work > out how to modify that line :-) > > Putting the newer version of the ati driver in /extra may very > well be an option, but I'd like to wait until the xorg guys > decide that it's "stable" first -- in other words, I don't want > to put a beta/rc driver in there unless we don't have any other > option. > > -RW I tried adding "options radeon modeset=1" to a file in modprobe.d before I recompiled. That didn't work. I will try your suggestion.
From: paul on 10 Mar 2010 21:58 On Mar 7, 1:53 am, Robby Workman <newsgro...(a)rlworkman.net> wrote: > On 2010-03-06, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 3, 6:08 am, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Mar 2, 7:50 pm, Robby Workman <newsgro...(a)rlworkman.net> wrote: > > >> > On 2010-03-03, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > > I need radeon kms to use my x1900GT video card with dri. Once xf86- > >> > > video-ati-0.6.13 is released which is said to be imminent on phoronix, > >> > > can we get radeon kms support? As of 2.6.33 kernel support for radeon > >> > > kms is promoted out of experimental status. > > >> > It's present in the 2.6.33 kernel in -current now, but it's not > >> > enabled by default. > > >> > -RW > > >> If it is not enabled by default, I have to recompile the kernel, > >> mesa , libdrm, and xf86-video-ati to use it, do I not? . I have > >> actually done this with a rc kernel, but I would like to see my > >> hardware supported "out of the box". Fedora 12 works "out of the box", > >> Ubuntu 10.04 alpha3 works "out of the box", and archlinux "testing" > >> works "out of the box". > >> Fedora and Ubuntu are very difficult for me to work with because they > >> are so complex, being crowded with innovations that make them fit for > >> either a completely novice user or a developer, but no one in between. > >> I am more comfortable with Slackware which has conventions which > >> someone with my intermediate level of knowledge can make sense of and > >> work with. Archlinux is also usable, but is a strictly rolling release > >> and overtime they are pretty sure to drop support for my card during > >> their evolution. > > > I recompiled 2.6.33 with radeon kms enabled and used src2pkg & souce > > tarball to get a xf86-video-ati-0.6.12.191 package. Card works good > > now. However I still think 2.6.33 should come packaged with radeon kms > > enable and xf86-video-ati-0.6.12.191 should be in extra. > > Enabling radeon kms by default would be a horrible idea, as > many cards would not work at all. In fact, I wouldn't expect > us to enable it by default until the userspace driver requires > it (just like we did for the intel driver). > > You don't need to recompile a kernel at all to enable it. > Here's what was in 13.0's CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT file: > > If you want to try the new kernel mode setting (KMS), you don't have to > build a custom kernel; add this to your kernel's lilo stanza: > append = "i915.modeset=1" > > Obviously that's not completely accurate now, since *i915* modesetting > is enabled by default. However, I am quite certain that you can work > out how to modify that line :-) > > Putting the newer version of the ati driver in /extra may very > well be an option, but I'd like to wait until the xorg guys > decide that it's "stable" first -- in other words, I don't want > to put a beta/rc driver in there unless we don't have any other > option. > > -RW Kudos, I tried your suggestion, and it worked.
From: paul on 11 Mar 2010 17:29 On Mar 10, 9:58 pm, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 7, 1:53 am, Robby Workman <newsgro...(a)rlworkman.net> wrote: > > > > > On 2010-03-06, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 3, 6:08 am, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On Mar 2, 7:50 pm, Robby Workman <newsgro...(a)rlworkman.net> wrote: > > > >> > On 2010-03-03, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > > I need radeon kms to use my x1900GT video card with dri. Once xf86- > > >> > > video-ati-0.6.13 is released which is said to be imminent on phoronix, > > >> > > can we get radeon kms support? As of 2.6.33 kernel support for radeon > > >> > > kms is promoted out of experimental status. > > > >> > It's present in the 2.6.33 kernel in -current now, but it's not > > >> > enabled by default. > > > >> > -RW > > > >> If it is not enabled by default, I have to recompile the kernel, > > >> mesa , libdrm, and xf86-video-ati to use it, do I not? . I have > > >> actually done this with a rc kernel, but I would like to see my > > >> hardware supported "out of the box". Fedora 12 works "out of the box", > > >> Ubuntu 10.04 alpha3 works "out of the box", and archlinux "testing" > > >> works "out of the box". > > >> Fedora and Ubuntu are very difficult for me to work with because they > > >> are so complex, being crowded with innovations that make them fit for > > >> either a completely novice user or a developer, but no one in between. > > >> I am more comfortable with Slackware which has conventions which > > >> someone with my intermediate level of knowledge can make sense of and > > >> work with. Archlinux is also usable, but is a strictly rolling release > > >> and overtime they are pretty sure to drop support for my card during > > >> their evolution. > > > > I recompiled 2.6.33 with radeon kms enabled and used src2pkg & souce > > > tarball to get a xf86-video-ati-0.6.12.191 package. Card works good > > > now. However I still think 2.6.33 should come packaged with radeon kms > > > enable and xf86-video-ati-0.6.12.191 should be in extra. > > > Enabling radeon kms by default would be a horrible idea, as > > many cards would not work at all. In fact, I wouldn't expect > > us to enable it by default until the userspace driver requires > > it (just like we did for the intel driver). > > > You don't need to recompile a kernel at all to enable it. > > Here's what was in 13.0's CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT file: > > > If you want to try the new kernel mode setting (KMS), you don't have to > > build a custom kernel; add this to your kernel's lilo stanza: > > append = "i915.modeset=1" > > > Obviously that's not completely accurate now, since *i915* modesetting > > is enabled by default. However, I am quite certain that you can work > > out how to modify that line :-) > > > Putting the newer version of the ati driver in /extra may very > > well be an option, but I'd like to wait until the xorg guys > > decide that it's "stable" first -- in other words, I don't want > > to put a beta/rc driver in there unless we don't have any other > > option. > > > -RW > > Kudos, I tried your suggestion, and it worked. I must contradict my last statement. I realized I had replaced the stock slackware modules with my custom ones. So to do a fair test, I deleted my modules and reinstalled stock slackware and kms failed even with append = "radeon.modset=1" in my lilo. So custom compile is needed to make radeon kms work. The stock kernel config does not seem to allow radeon kms on my box.
From: paul on 1 Apr 2010 19:40
On Mar 11, 6:29 pm, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 10, 9:58 pm, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 7, 1:53 am, Robby Workman <newsgro...(a)rlworkman.net> wrote: > > > > On 2010-03-06, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 3, 6:08 am, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On Mar 2, 7:50 pm, Robby Workman <newsgro...(a)rlworkman.net> wrote: > > > > >> > On 2010-03-03, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > I need radeonkmsto use my x1900GT video card with dri. Once xf86- > > > >> > > video-ati-0.6.13 is released which is said to be imminent on phoronix, > > > >> > > can we get radeonkmssupport? As of 2.6.33 kernel support for radeon > > > >> > >kmsis promoted out of experimental status. > > > > >> > It's present in the 2.6.33 kernel in -current now, but it's not > > > >> > enabled by default. > > > > >> > -RW > > > > >> If it is not enabled by default, I have to recompile the kernel, > > > >> mesa , libdrm, and xf86-video-ati to use it, do I not? . I have > > > >> actually done this with a rc kernel, but I would like to see my > > > >> hardware supported "out of the box". Fedora 12 works "out of the box", > > > >> Ubuntu 10.04 alpha3 works "out of the box", and archlinux "testing" > > > >> works "out of the box". > > > >> Fedora and Ubuntu are very difficult for me to work with because they > > > >> are so complex, being crowded with innovations that make them fit for > > > >> either a completely novice user or a developer, but no one in between. > > > >> I am more comfortable with Slackware which has conventions which > > > >> someone with my intermediate level of knowledge can make sense of and > > > >> work with. Archlinux is also usable, but is a strictly rolling release > > > >> and overtime they are pretty sure to drop support for my card during > > > >> their evolution. > > > > > I recompiled 2.6.33 with radeonkmsenabled and used src2pkg & souce > > > > tarball to get a xf86-video-ati-0.6.12.191 package. Card works good > > > > now. However I still think 2.6.33 should come packaged with radeonkms > > > > enable and xf86-video-ati-0.6.12.191 should be in extra. > > > > Enabling radeonkmsby default would be a horrible idea, as > > > many cards would not work at all. In fact, I wouldn't expect > > > us to enable it by default until the userspace driver requires > > > it (just like we did for the intel driver). > > > > You don't need to recompile a kernel at all to enable it. > > > Here's what was in 13.0's CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT file: > > > > If you want to try the new kernel mode setting (KMS), you don't have to > > > build a custom kernel; add this to your kernel's lilo stanza: > > > append = "i915.modeset=1" > > > > Obviously that's not completely accurate now, since *i915* modesetting > > > is enabled by default. However, I am quite certain that you can work > > > out how to modify that line :-) > > > > Putting the newer version of the ati driver in /extra may very > > > well be an option, but I'd like to wait until the xorg guys > > > decide that it's "stable" first -- in other words, I don't want > > > to put a beta/rc driver in there unless we don't have any other > > > option. > > > > -RW > > > Kudos, I tried your suggestion, and it worked. > > I must contradict my last statement. I realized I had replaced the > stock slackware modules with my custom ones. So to do a fair test, I > deleted my modules and reinstalled stock slackware andkmsfailed even > with append = "radeon.modset=1" in my lilo. So custom compile is > needed to make radeonkmswork. The stock kernel config does not seem > to allow radeonkmson my box. I googled some when the 2.6.33.1 kernel package came out into current. It said to blacklist radeon & radeonfb modules and then load radeon after the os completed initializing by putting /sbin/modprobe radeon modeset=1 in rc.local. This seems to work fine. |