From: paul on
I need radeon kms to use my x1900GT video card with dri. Once xf86-
video-ati-0.6.13 is released which is said to be imminent on phoronix,
can we get radeon kms support? As of 2.6.33 kernel support for radeon
kms is promoted out of experimental status.
From: Robby Workman on
On 2010-03-03, paul <paullitwack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> I need radeon kms to use my x1900GT video card with dri. Once xf86-
> video-ati-0.6.13 is released which is said to be imminent on phoronix,
> can we get radeon kms support? As of 2.6.33 kernel support for radeon
> kms is promoted out of experimental status.


It's present in the 2.6.33 kernel in -current now, but it's not
enabled by default.

-RW
From: paul on
On Mar 2, 7:50 pm, Robby Workman <newsgro...(a)rlworkman.net> wrote:
> On 2010-03-03, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I need radeon kms to use my x1900GT video card with dri. Once xf86-
> > video-ati-0.6.13 is released which is said to be imminent on phoronix,
> > can we get radeon kms support? As of 2.6.33 kernel support for radeon
> > kms is promoted out of experimental status.
>
> It's present in the 2.6.33 kernel in -current now, but it's not
> enabled by default.
>
> -RW

If it is not enabled by default, I have to recompile the kernel,
mesa , libdrm, and xf86-video-ati to use it, do I not? . I have
actually done this with a rc kernel, but I would like to see my
hardware supported "out of the box". Fedora 12 works "out of the box",
Ubuntu 10.04 alpha3 works "out of the box", and archlinux "testing"
works "out of the box".
Fedora and Ubuntu are very difficult for me to work with because they
are so complex, being crowded with innovations that make them fit for
either a completely novice user or a developer, but no one in between.
I am more comfortable with Slackware which has conventions which
someone with my intermediate level of knowledge can make sense of and
work with. Archlinux is also usable, but is a strictly rolling release
and overtime they are pretty sure to drop support for my card during
their evolution.
From: paul on
On Mar 3, 6:08 am, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 2, 7:50 pm, Robby Workman <newsgro...(a)rlworkman.net> wrote:
>
> > On 2010-03-03, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > I need radeon kms to use my x1900GT video card with dri. Once xf86-
> > > video-ati-0.6.13 is released which is said to be imminent on phoronix,
> > > can we get radeon kms support? As of 2.6.33 kernel support for radeon
> > > kms is promoted out of experimental status.
>
> > It's present in the 2.6.33 kernel in -current now, but it's not
> > enabled by default.
>
> > -RW
>
> If it is not enabled by default, I have to recompile the kernel,
> mesa , libdrm, and xf86-video-ati to use it, do I not? . I have
> actually done this with a rc kernel, but I would like to see my
> hardware supported "out of the box". Fedora 12 works "out of the box",
> Ubuntu 10.04 alpha3 works "out of the box", and archlinux "testing"
> works "out of the box".
> Fedora and Ubuntu are very difficult for me to work with because they
> are so complex, being crowded with innovations that make them fit for
> either a completely novice user or a developer, but no one in between.
> I am more comfortable with Slackware which has conventions which
> someone with my intermediate level of knowledge can make sense of and
> work with. Archlinux is also usable, but is a strictly rolling release
> and overtime they are pretty sure to drop support for my card during
> their evolution.

I recompiled 2.6.33 with radeon kms enabled and used src2pkg & souce
tarball to get a xf86-video-ati-0.6.12.191 package. Card works good
now. However I still think 2.6.33 should come packaged with radeon kms
enable and xf86-video-ati-0.6.12.191 should be in extra.
From: Robby Workman on
On 2010-03-06, paul <paullitwack(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 3, 6:08 am, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mar 2, 7:50 pm, Robby Workman <newsgro...(a)rlworkman.net> wrote:
>>
>> > On 2010-03-03, paul <paullitw...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > > I need radeon kms to use my x1900GT video card with dri. Once xf86-
>> > > video-ati-0.6.13 is released which is said to be imminent on phoronix,
>> > > can we get radeon kms support? As of 2.6.33 kernel support for radeon
>> > > kms is promoted out of experimental status.
>>
>> > It's present in the 2.6.33 kernel in -current now, but it's not
>> > enabled by default.
>>
>> > -RW
>>
>> If it is not enabled by default, I have to recompile the kernel,
>> mesa , libdrm, and xf86-video-ati to use it, do I not? . I have
>> actually done this with a rc kernel, but I would like to see my
>> hardware supported "out of the box". Fedora 12 works "out of the box",
>> Ubuntu 10.04 alpha3 works "out of the box", and archlinux "testing"
>> works "out of the box".
>> Fedora and Ubuntu are very difficult for me to work with because they
>> are so complex, being crowded with innovations that make them fit for
>> either a completely novice user or a developer, but no one in between.
>> I am more comfortable with Slackware which has conventions which
>> someone with my intermediate level of knowledge can make sense of and
>> work with. Archlinux is also usable, but is a strictly rolling release
>> and overtime they are pretty sure to drop support for my card during
>> their evolution.
>
> I recompiled 2.6.33 with radeon kms enabled and used src2pkg & souce
> tarball to get a xf86-video-ati-0.6.12.191 package. Card works good
> now. However I still think 2.6.33 should come packaged with radeon kms
> enable and xf86-video-ati-0.6.12.191 should be in extra.


Enabling radeon kms by default would be a horrible idea, as
many cards would not work at all. In fact, I wouldn't expect
us to enable it by default until the userspace driver requires
it (just like we did for the intel driver).

You don't need to recompile a kernel at all to enable it.
Here's what was in 13.0's CHANGES_AND_HINTS.TXT file:

If you want to try the new kernel mode setting (KMS), you don't have to
build a custom kernel; add this to your kernel's lilo stanza:
append = "i915.modeset=1"

Obviously that's not completely accurate now, since *i915* modesetting
is enabled by default. However, I am quite certain that you can work
out how to modify that line :-)

Putting the newer version of the ati driver in /extra may very
well be an option, but I'd like to wait until the xorg guys
decide that it's "stable" first -- in other words, I don't want
to put a beta/rc driver in there unless we don't have any other
option.

-RW
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