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From: TBerk on 23 Jan 2010 03:21
On Jan 22, 5:01 pm, "ps56k" <pschuman_no_spam...(a)interserv.com> wrote:
> "TBerk" <bayareab...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ea437e17-9144-4b69-8a0c-2f6be616836f(a)j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
> > What are the computers/adapters using?;  B/G/N?
>
> irrelevant - it's an academic discussion....
>
> sort of like the old 56k modem transmission constellation patterns
> vs the quality of the copper lines, analog/digital conversions, etc -

[quote]
SO - how is a b/g setting vs the b/g/n mixed mode setting
I seem to recall some interaction in mixed modes,
but can't remember if it was related to B/G or the N mode.

How do the different modes effect range ?
What about going 20mhz compat vs 40mhz channel ?

Basically just thinking of all the "choices" in a real world situation
where the "range" or "reach" of the WAP
is probably more important than a local LAN speed demon,
since the end connection is only a DSL line of 1.5mbit...
[/quote]

Did you get any answers?

berk
From: Steve Fenwick on 23 Jan 2010 06:01
In article
<82f4d07e-480d-4013-a4bd-fd695fd49693(a)c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
TBerk <bayareaberk(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> On Jan 22, 5:01�pm, "ps56k" <pschuman_no_spam...(a)interserv.com> wrote:
> > "TBerk" <bayareab...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:ea437e17-9144-4b69-8a0c-2f6be616836f(a)j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > What are the computers/adapters using?; �B/G/N?
> >
> > irrelevant - it's an academic discussion....
> >
> > sort of like the old 56k modem transmission constellation patterns
> > vs the quality of the copper lines, analog/digital conversions, etc -
>
> [quote]
> SO - how is a b/g setting vs the b/g/n mixed mode setting
> I seem to recall some interaction in mixed modes,
> but can't remember if it was related to B/G or the N mode.
>
> How do the different modes effect range ?
> What about going 20mhz compat vs 40mhz channel ?
>
> Basically just thinking of all the "choices" in a real world situation
> where the "range" or "reach" of the WAP
> is probably more important than a local LAN speed demon,
> since the end connection is only a DSL line of 1.5mbit...
> [/quote]
>
> Did you get any answers?
>
> berk

802.11n with more than 1 spatial stream should help one get better rate
at a given range. Range in free space may or may not be improved,
depending on the difference in transmit power, receive sensitivity, and
antenna gain. But if you're trying to cover a building with wireless,
802.11n should help get better rate.

Steve

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From: Tony Hwang on 23 Jan 2010 20:08
ps56k wrote:
> "TBerk"<bayareaberk(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:ea437e17-9144-4b69-8a0c-2f6be616836f(a)j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>> What are the computers/adapters using?; B/G/N?
>>
>>
> irrelevant - it's an academic discussion....
>
> sort of like the old 56k modem transmission constellation patterns
> vs the quality of the copper lines, analog/digital conversions, etc -
>
>
Hi,
Too many variables like radio chip set, how big is the house, etc.
I have cascaded routers. One is only for a and n wireless access. One is
for b/g access but nothing runs on -b mode.
From: Tony Hwang on 23 Jan 2010 20:13
Steve Fenwick wrote:
> In article
> <82f4d07e-480d-4013-a4bd-fd695fd49693(a)c29g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> TBerk<bayareaberk(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jan 22, 5:01 pm, "ps56k"<pschuman_no_spam...(a)interserv.com> wrote:
>>> "TBerk"<bayareab...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:ea437e17-9144-4b69-8a0c-2f6be616836f(a)j14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> What are the computers/adapters using?; B/G/N?
>>>
>>> irrelevant - it's an academic discussion....
>>>
>>> sort of like the old 56k modem transmission constellation patterns
>>> vs the quality of the copper lines, analog/digital conversions, etc -
>>
>> [quote]
>> SO - how is a b/g setting vs the b/g/n mixed mode setting
>> I seem to recall some interaction in mixed modes,
>> but can't remember if it was related to B/G or the N mode.
>>
>> How do the different modes effect range ?
>> What about going 20mhz compat vs 40mhz channel ?
>>
>> Basically just thinking of all the "choices" in a real world situation
>> where the "range" or "reach" of the WAP
>> is probably more important than a local LAN speed demon,
>> since the end connection is only a DSL line of 1.5mbit...
>> [/quote]
>>
>> Did you get any answers?
>>
>> berk
>
> 802.11n with more than 1 spatial stream should help one get better rate
> at a given range. Range in free space may or may not be improved,
> depending on the difference in transmit power, receive sensitivity, and
> antenna gain. But if you're trying to cover a building with wireless,
> 802.11n should help get better rate.
>
> Steve
>
Hi,
True but for Belkin N+ router, one can't use WAP on -n mode only set
up. I had to toss that router for that. There may be more routers like
that out there.
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