From: Per Jessen on 21 Apr 2010 11:07 David McGlone wrote: > Also, I do not want this discussion to turn into a flame war or > anything of such. I am simply just trying to have a discussion and > learn why and how there is different behavior here, but not anywhere > else.=20 David, the PHP list behaves like hundreds or thousands of others in thi= s respect. Of course there are also lists that work the other way, but the PHP list is far from alone.=20 --=20 Per Jessen, Z=C3=BCrich (17.0=C2=B0C)
From: David McGlone on 21 Apr 2010 12:04 On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 17:07 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: > David McGlone wrote: > > > Also, I do not want this discussion to turn into a flame war or > > anything of such. I am simply just trying to have a discussion and > > learn why and how there is different behavior here, but not anywhere > > else. > > David, the PHP list behaves like hundreds or thousands of others in this > respect. Of course there are also lists that work the other way, but > the PHP list is far from alone. It could be just me, but it seems to me this behavior is mostly PHP list specific. The only other php list I am on is php-db. It doesn't have this behavior so I guess I'm just not experienced enough to know otherwise. -- Blessings, David M.
From: tedd on 21 Apr 2010 12:13 At 8:27 AM -0400 4/21/10, David McGlone wrote: >I give up. trying to reply to messages on this list is tedious. I can't >pinpoint whether it's because the list is set up to make replies go to >the OP or the OP has his reply-to in his mail client set, or most people >are hitting the reply-to button instead of simply reply. > >It just doesn't make sense to me, why be on the mailing list if it >hinders having a group discussion without having to jump through >hurdles. It also defeats the purpose of being on a group list if >replying sends the reply to the OP. > >Every message sent to this list, simply hitting reply should send back >to this list and not the OP. >-- >Blessings, >David M. David: Whenever I want to reply to the OP privately, I use their email address. Whenever I want to reply to all, I use "PHP <php-general(a)lists.php.net>" I do NOT (usually) use any quick "Reply" or "Reply to All" options in my email program that sends stuff to everyone. Instead I think about what I am sending and consider if anyone wants to receive my email. Sure it's another step, but no more troublesome than trimming my email to the point or other such considerations to make my replies "on topic" and more readable. I'm sorry that you feel that doing so is *so tedious* that you are going to "give up", but consider the effort that is put forth by those answering you you should reconsider how much effort you are willing spend to make this list work. Sometimes things cannot be as simple as "Click". Cheers, tedd -- ------- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com
From: Per Jessen on 21 Apr 2010 12:16 David McGlone wrote: > On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 17:07 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: >> David McGlone wrote: >>=20 >> > Also, I do not want this discussion to turn into a flame war or >> > anything of such. I am simply just trying to have a discussion and= >> > learn why and how there is different behavior here, but not >> > anywhere else. >>=20 >> David, the PHP list behaves like hundreds or thousands of others in >> this >> respect. Of course there are also lists that work the other way, bu= t >> the PHP list is far from alone. >=20 > It could be just me, but it seems to me this behavior is mostly PHP > list specific.=20 Some examples of other lists that behave the same: ntp-general linux-kernel spamassassin-general rrdtool-users opensuse-* nasm-users isdn4linux asterisk-users postfix-users dovecot-general --=20 Per Jessen, Z=C3=BCrich (17.5=C2=B0C)
From: Michelle Konzack on 21 Apr 2010 14:09
Hello Peter Lind, Am 2010-04-21 15:47:54, hacktest Du folgendes herunter: > And waste time every single time you post to the list ... why do > people become programmers/developers again? To end creating technical > solutions they can then avoid using by doing extra, pointless manual > work? Hmmm, being a Programmer/Developer since 1982 and have ever used decent tools to accomplish a task... including the right MUA which simplify the Programmers/Developers daily mailing tasks. > Anyway, if there's no chance of changing the minds of the people > administering the list, the discussion might as well end now. Why should Programmers/Developers bother with non-reliable MUAs which do not support Programmers/Developers daily mailing tasks? If YOU are a Programmer/Developer why do you bother with a non-suitable MUA? Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator -- ##################### Debian GNU/Linux Consultant ###################### Development of Intranet and Embedded Systems with Debian GNU/Linux itsystems(a)tdnet France itsystems(a)tdnet UG (haftungsbeschränkt) Gesch. Michelle Konzack Gesch. Michelle Konzack Apt. 917 (homeoffice) 50, rue de Soultz Kinzigstraße 17 67100 Strasbourg/France 77694 Kehl/Germany Tel: +33-6-61925193 mobil Tel: +49-177-9351947 mobil Tel: +33-9-52705884 fix <http://www.itsystems.tamay-dogan.net/> <http://www.flexray4linux.org/> <http://www.debian.tamay-dogan.net/> <http://www.can4linux.org/> Jabber linux4michelle(a)jabber.ccc.de ICQ #328449886 Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ |