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From: Karl E. Peterson on 29 Jul 2010 19:36 on 7/29/2010, Tom Shelton supposed : > After serious thinking Mike Williams wrote : >> "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote... >>> After serious thinking Mike Williams wrote : >> >>>> I think that's probably an oversimplification Karl, >>>> but I see what you mean. >>> >>> Pick yer analogy. >>> Vegas rules? This is a "No Duh!" to most rational folks. >> >> I'm afraid you've lost me there, Karl. Care to elucidate? > > Karl is refering to the old saying - "What happens in Vegas, stays in > Vegas"... Bingeaux. Most sane folks consider that to apply equally to newsgroups. I mean, friendly gestures are one thing. But taking hostilities to another venue is simply loathesome. I'm afraid the younger generation has lost, or perhaps totally lacks, this basic social eptitude. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org
From: Kevin Provance on 29 Jul 2010 20:19 "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message news:i2t3a7$gqf$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... : : Bingeaux. Most sane folks consider that to apply equally to : newsgroups. I mean, friendly gestures are one thing. But taking : hostilities to another venue is simply loathesome. I'm afraid the : younger generation has lost, or perhaps totally lacks, this basic : social eptitude. Some of the best arguments/flames between ex-lovers, divorcing couples and people who generally don't like each other occur on MySpace, Facebook and Twitter. So yeah, so hit that nail right on the head. Then psychos with nothing better to do that waste life compiles these things into databases like unencyclopedia, or my personal least favourite, ED - for everyone else to see and marvel over. Web 2.0 sucks.
From: Larry Serflaten on 29 Jul 2010 20:24 "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote > >> > >> No lower form of Internet scum than that. No doubts about it! > > > > Careful old top, > > Anyone who doesn't understand that online gathering spots are akin to a > sandbox represents a danger society at large. They need to be removed. Did you mean a danger TO society? In any case, I'd disagree. Public forums are just that, public expressions of one's self. There should be no false pretense of privacy, in a public venue. Of course, it would be difficult to create a private forum accessable to the general public for which your sandbox analogy may apply, but that is the nature of the beast. It must be explicitly stated in a forum charter, or otherwise understood by all members, that comments made in the forum should not leave the forum. Otherwise, posts made to a newsgroup are little different than comments made at the end of published articles. Both are seen by anyone who happens by. One could hardly assume that posts made here are a form of private communication among the members. That's my take, anyway, and I conduct myself accordingly. (hint hint) LFS
From: Tom Shelton on 29 Jul 2010 20:54 Larry Serflaten wrote : > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote >>>> >>>> No lower form of Internet scum than that. No doubts about it! >>> >>> Careful old top, >> >> Anyone who doesn't understand that online gathering spots are akin to a >> sandbox represents a danger society at large. They need to be removed. > > > Did you mean a danger TO society? > > In any case, I'd disagree. Public forums are just that, public expressions > of one's self. There should be no false pretense of privacy, in a public > venue. Of course, it would be difficult to create a private forum accessable > to the general public for which your sandbox analogy may apply, but that is > the nature of the beast. It must be explicitly stated in a forum charter, or > otherwise understood by all members, that comments made in the forum > should not leave the forum. > > Otherwise, posts made to a newsgroup are little different than comments > made at the end of published articles. Both are seen by anyone who > happens by. One could hardly assume that posts made here are a form > of private communication among the members. > > That's my take, anyway, and I conduct myself accordingly. > > (hint hint) > LFS I agree that one can not count on comments here being private. I have no delusions that this is not a public forum. But, there are still boundries that should not be crossed. For example, I don't believe it would be right for me to track down your address, phone #, etc and post that here with out your consent. I don't think I should follow you into other forums and harras you. I don't think it would be appropriate for me to track down your work information and contact your employer because I think something you said was inappropriate. There is one area I do agree with Kevin on - I'm not a big fan of anonymous posters or habbitual nym-shifters.... -- Tom Shelton
From: Karl E. Peterson on 29 Jul 2010 20:55
Larry Serflaten formulated on Thursday : > "Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote >>>> >>>> No lower form of Internet scum than that. No doubts about it! >>> >>> Careful old top, >> >> Anyone who doesn't understand that online gathering spots are akin to a >> sandbox represents a danger society at large. They need to be removed. > > Did you mean a danger TO society? Yeah, sorry. > In any case, I'd disagree. Public forums are just that, public expressions > of one's self. There should be no false pretense of privacy, in a public > venue. Of course, it would be difficult to create a private forum accessable > to the general public for which your sandbox analogy may apply, but that is > the nature of the beast. It must be explicitly stated in a forum charter, or > otherwise understood by all members, that comments made in the forum > should not leave the forum. > > Otherwise, posts made to a newsgroup are little different than comments > made at the end of published articles. Both are seen by anyone who > happens by. One could hardly assume that posts made here are a form > of private communication among the members. > > That's my take, anyway, and I conduct myself accordingly. I know they're public. My point was that taking disagreements outside of them is just utterly uncouth. -- ..NET: It's About Trust! http://vfred.mvps.org |