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From: DanS on 29 Jul 2010 22:28 How would you define a bug vis a vis a >>> "programmer deficiency"? >> >> I don't know, I've never thought about it. > ... > > Then what made you react w/ "programmer deficiency" instead > of "bug" earlier???? <VBG, D&R> :) I've talked this over with a couple programmers I used to work with, and we've come to an understanding about a few things....... 1) A bug doesn't really become a bug until the software is released with problems. Until it's released, they are just action items, or tasks to be completed. 2) They're not sure if a simple typo is a bug or not. There is a distinct difference between, for example, the assign instead of compare, vs a flawed algorithm of some type, or incorrect logic. I'm sure there may be other views as well.
From: Bob Butler on 29 Jul 2010 22:33 "DanS" <t.h.i.s.n.t.h.a.t(a)r.o.a.d.r.u.n.n.e.r.c.o.m> wrote in message news:Xns9DC4E4B93D940thisnthatroadrunnern(a)216.196.97.131... > How would you define a bug vis a vis a >>>> "programmer deficiency"? >>> >>> I don't know, I've never thought about it. >> ... >> >> Then what made you react w/ "programmer deficiency" instead >> of "bug" earlier???? <VBG, D&R> :) > > I've talked this over with a couple programmers I used to work > with, and we've come to an understanding about a few > things....... > > 1) A bug doesn't really become a bug until the software is > released with problems. Until it's released, they are just > action items, or tasks to be completed. and when the tree falls in the forest it makes no sound... it's a bug whether it's been found or not and whether the software has been released or not. > 2) They're not sure if a simple typo is a bug or not. There is a > distinct difference between, for example, the assign instead of > compare, vs a flawed algorithm of some type, or incorrect logic. There is a difference between flawed design and mistaken syntax or typos but both are bugs. If it causes incorrect or unexpected results then it's a bug.
From: ralph on 30 Jul 2010 00:50 On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 19:33:21 -0700, "Bob Butler" <bob_butler(a)cox.invalid> wrote: > >There is a difference between flawed design and mistaken syntax or typos but >both are bugs. If it causes incorrect or unexpected results then it's a >bug. > If I did it and someone can prove that I did it, then ... it is an "unexpected feature". -ralph
From: Kevin Provance on 30 Jul 2010 00:53 "Bob Butler" <bob_butler(a)cox.invalid> wrote in message news:i2tdoq$g3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... : : and when the tree falls in the forest it makes no sound... it's a bug : whether it's been found or not and whether the software has been released or : not. O_o And while I am asleep, do the rooms outside my bedroom really exist?
From: Kevin Provance on 30 Jul 2010 01:02
"Karl E. Peterson" <karl(a)exmvps.org> wrote in message news:i2t7t8$1dk$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... : I know they're public. My point was that taking disagreements outside : of them is just utterly uncouth. That's probably why McCarthy has not been around as of late. It was he who got the ball rolling on the article that Cenn likes to post. It's no longer an assumption now. He knows he did a really bad thing - should a perspective employer google me, it's the first things they'll see. Someday, McCarthy and I are going to have a come to jesus chat about that. The amount of money and time it would take to make that page go away...I don't have. The server isn't even located in the US. They purposefully have it hosted in the netherlands where without an extensive exercise in maneuvering international red tape, I have no hope to have it taken down. Some of the best black hats have tried to take it down in the past and failed. However, I have my little torments: Thanks to a small addition using the apache mod_rewrite on my server, anyone attempting to access my website through that page is in for a nasty little surprise that will require a restart of the computer. <eg> |