From: Greg Russell on
In news:hotbi3$68o$3(a)speranza.aioe.org,
Todd <todd(a)invalid.com> typed:

> Okay, binary was bad choice of terms. The wrapper I am
> thinking of will run the tar ball for you and keep
> track of the changes in the RPM database. Anyone
> remember what the wrapper is called?

It simply doesn't exist, nor should it, as such a program would break the
rpm database in unexpected ways.

As others have mentioned, download the binary and place it in a strategic
spot in $PATH and remove the antique CentOS FF rpm. You may have to adjust
the desktop icon properties if necessary, but we have CentOS 5.4 as do you,
and have the FF Gnome desktop icon command as "firefox %u" which gets found
in the $PATH unless a user's $PATH has a private copy before it.


From: SINNER on
* Todd wrote in comp.os.linux.misc:

> On 03/29/2010 10:52 PM, DenverD wrote:
>> Todd wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am using CentOS 5.4 (Old-Out-Of-Date) as a workstation.
>>>
>>> I want to install the latest Firefox and Thunderbird binaries
>>> from mozilla.com's web site.
>>>
>>> Somewhere is my past, I remember that there was a wrapper
>>> program you could run when you doing such things that kept your
>>> rpm database up to date. I remember writing down a note as
>>> to how to do it, but now I can not find it. Rats!
>>>
>>> Anyone remember what this wrapper/thingy is called?
>>
>> unless i overlooked it, Moz doesn't offer an executable binary for any
>> brand of Linux...instead they have tar ball to compile and
>> install...in which case there is neither need nor ability to update
>> the rpm database..
>>
>
> Okay, binary was bad choice of terms. The wrapper I am
> thinking of will run the tar ball for you and keep
> track of the changes in the RPM database. Anyone
> remember what the wrapper is called?


are you talking about checkinstall?

http://www.asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/

--
David
From: DenverD on
Todd wrote:
> On 03/29/2010 10:52 PM, DenverD wrote:
>> Todd wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I am using CentOS 5.4 (Old-Out-Of-Date) as a workstation.
>>>
>>> I want to install the latest Firefox and Thunderbird binaries
>>> from mozilla.com's web site.
>>>
>>> Somewhere is my past, I remember that there was a wrapper
>>> program you could run when you doing such things that kept your
>>> rpm database up to date. I remember writing down a note as
>>> to how to do it, but now I can not find it. Rats!
>>>
>>> Anyone remember what this wrapper/thingy is called?
>>
>> unless i overlooked it, Moz doesn't offer an executable binary for any
>> brand of Linux...instead they have tar ball to compile and
>> install...in which case there is neither need nor ability to update
>> the rpm database..
>>
>
> Okay, binary was bad choice of terms. The wrapper I am
> thinking of will run the tar ball for you and keep
> track of the changes in the RPM database. Anyone
> remember what the wrapper is called?

sorry, but i know of nothing that will "run the tar ball" [which, as
far as i know won't "run"] and, if it did it should NOT change the RPM
database because a source tar ball is not an RPM..

if you are asking how to compile and install from source, then there
are thousands of good how-to and tutorials on that here:

http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+compile+install

maybe if you read through several your memory will be refreshed that
the way to do this is:

1. unpack tar
2. READ the readme within
3. follow the readme instructions, which probably are
a. ./configure
b. make
c. su - (become root)
d. make install
4. enjoy the freedom

on the other hand, why would CentOS not have available an RPM for you
to install--why would you have to go to moz and snatch a source anyway?

--
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KDE 3.5.7 "release 72-11", openSUSE Linux 10.3, 2.6.22.19-0.4-default
#1 SMP i686 athlon
From: unruh on
On 2010-03-31, DenverD <spam.trap(a)SOMEwhere.dk> wrote:
> Todd wrote:
>> On 03/29/2010 10:52 PM, DenverD wrote:
>>> Todd wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I am using CentOS 5.4 (Old-Out-Of-Date) as a workstation.
>>>>
>>>> I want to install the latest Firefox and Thunderbird binaries
>>>> from mozilla.com's web site.
>>>>
>>>> Somewhere is my past, I remember that there was a wrapper
>>>> program you could run when you doing such things that kept your
>>>> rpm database up to date. I remember writing down a note as
>>>> to how to do it, but now I can not find it. Rats!
>>>>
>>>> Anyone remember what this wrapper/thingy is called?
>>>
>>> unless i overlooked it, Moz doesn't offer an executable binary for any
>>> brand of Linux...instead they have tar ball to compile and
>>> install...in which case there is neither need nor ability to update
>>> the rpm database..
>>>
>>
>> Okay, binary was bad choice of terms. The wrapper I am
>> thinking of will run the tar ball for you and keep
>> track of the changes in the RPM database. Anyone
>> remember what the wrapper is called?
>
> sorry, but i know of nothing that will "run the tar ball" [which, as
> far as i know won't "run"] and, if it did it should NOT change the RPM
> database because a source tar ball is not an RPM..

He means it will compile the tar ball, and then create a .rpm file to
install via rpm.

>
> if you are asking how to compile and install from source, then there

He is asking how to create and rpm file from source.

The easiest is if the tar ball has a .spec file it. Use that.


> are thousands of good how-to and tutorials on that here:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=linux+compile+install
>
> maybe if you read through several your memory will be refreshed that
> the way to do this is:
>
> 1. unpack tar
> 2. READ the readme within
> 3. follow the readme instructions, which probably are
> a. ./configure
> b. make
> c. su - (become root)
> d. make install
> 4. enjoy the freedom
>
> on the other hand, why would CentOS not have available an RPM for you
> to install--why would you have to go to moz and snatch a source anyway?

Because he wants the latest, and CentOS does not have the latest.

>
From: Todd on
On 03/30/2010 01:41 PM, SINNER wrote:

> are you talking about checkinstall?

> http://www.asic-linux.com.mx/~izto/checkinstall/


That is it. Thank you!

-T