sbs2008 backup disk full: cleanup
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From: Guzzifrank on 15 May 2010 13:59 Doing routine checkups and found sbs2008 external drive for backup full with 197 successful backups. It would be nice if the server console alerted on this but oh well. Can't find way to delete old backups. Don't simply want to deleted volume and start over. I saw mention of a script, like the WSUS cleanup script, that can do cleanup but can't find one. Help
From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 15 May 2010 14:38 Don't delete them they will drop off as time goes on. Is there a reason you don't want that may backups? IMO the more the better? Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com "Guzzifrank" <flbritton(a)shaw.ca> wrote in message news:OdU1hhF9KHA.3840(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Doing routine checkups and found sbs2008 external drive for backup full > with 197 successful backups. > > It would be nice if the server console alerted on this but oh well. > > Can't find way to delete old backups. Don't simply want to deleted volume > and start over. > > I saw mention of a script, like the WSUS cleanup script, that can do > cleanup but can't find one. > > Help
From: Merv Porter [SBS-MVP] on 15 May 2010 20:43 More info on auto-delete feature with SBS 2008 backup... Windows Server Backup 2008 - "auto-delete" function not working http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/windowsbackup/thread/c55e4e16-22af-4d84-b2c4-7aedcf512469 -------------------------------- auto-delete feature deletes the older version of backups on the disk by deleting the corresponding shadow copy. each backup version is maintained in a a volume shadow copy on the backup location. shadow copy of a volume is a readonly copy of the volume. there can be multiple shadow copies on a volume. these are maintained by tracking the changes on the volume and storing them in what is called diff area files on the volume. auto-delete feature to ensure that at least some old backup copies are maintained on the disk -- does not automatically delete backups if space utilization by older copies is less than 1/8 of the disk size or in other words, 13% of the disk size. that means if the one full backup copy does not fit in the 7/8 of the disk size, backup may fail with disk full error. auto-delete will not automatically delete older versions to reclaim more older versions of backup. backup will fail with 0x80780030 media is full error. it is recommended that 1. either backup disk with bigger size can be used or 2. vssadmin utility can be used to delete more older versions of backup if they are not required. vssadmin list shadows /for=x: will list the shadow copies on x: and creation time. vssadmin delete shadows /for=x: /oldest can be used to delete the oldest shadow copy on x: where x: is the backup location. diskmgmt.msc can be used to assign drive letter to the backup disk temporarily and again removed. vssadmin.exe tool need to be run from elevated command prompt. --------------------------------- "Guzzifrank" <flbritton(a)shaw.ca> wrote in message news:OdU1hhF9KHA.3840(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Doing routine checkups and found sbs2008 external drive for backup full > with 197 successful backups. > > It would be nice if the server console alerted on this but oh well. > > Can't find way to delete old backups. Don't simply want to deleted volume > and start over. > > I saw mention of a script, like the WSUS cleanup script, that can do > cleanup but can't find one. > > Help
From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 16 May 2010 12:30 Merv? He didn't say he was getting a backup error? So shouldn't it be working normally? and not have to do this?? Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport(a)no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eAfw0CJ9KHA.4924(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > More info on auto-delete feature with SBS 2008 backup... > > Windows Server Backup 2008 - "auto-delete" function not working > http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/windowsbackup/thread/c55e4e16-22af-4d84-b2c4-7aedcf512469 > -------------------------------- > auto-delete feature deletes the older version of backups on the disk by > deleting the corresponding shadow copy. each backup version is maintained > in a a volume shadow copy on the backup location. shadow copy of a volume > is a readonly copy of the volume. there can be multiple shadow copies on a > volume. these are maintained by tracking the changes on the volume and > storing them in what is called diff area files on the volume. > > auto-delete feature to ensure that at least some old backup copies are > maintained on the disk -- does not automatically delete backups if space > utilization by older copies is less than 1/8 of the disk size or in other > words, 13% of the disk size. that means if the one full backup copy does > not fit in the 7/8 of the disk size, backup may fail with disk full error. > auto-delete will not automatically delete older versions to reclaim more > older versions of backup. > > backup will fail with 0x80780030 media is full error. > > it is recommended that > 1. either backup disk with bigger size can be used or > 2. vssadmin utility can be used to delete more older versions of backup if > they are not required. > > vssadmin list shadows /for=x: will list the shadow copies on x: and > creation time. > vssadmin delete shadows /for=x: /oldest can be used to delete the oldest > shadow copy on x: where x: is the backup location. > diskmgmt.msc can be used to assign drive letter to the backup disk > temporarily and again removed. > vssadmin.exe tool need to be run from elevated command prompt. > --------------------------------- > > "Guzzifrank" <flbritton(a)shaw.ca> wrote in message > news:OdU1hhF9KHA.3840(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> Doing routine checkups and found sbs2008 external drive for backup full >> with 197 successful backups. >> >> It would be nice if the server console alerted on this but oh well. >> >> Can't find way to delete old backups. Don't simply want to deleted volume >> and start over. >> >> I saw mention of a script, like the WSUS cleanup script, that can do >> cleanup but can't find one. >> >> Help >
From: Guzzifrank on 16 May 2010 18:37 No error and I don't have to remove old backups. I just found my drive with ..5 % left on it and did the old " I better cleanup" thinking that I have always had. Not ware that SBS2008 backup self cleans. Not a problem if that works. Thanks for pointing me to that fact. "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message news:9B46BB7D-8C23-4C6F-B9AD-182B57D18EF0(a)microsoft.com... > Merv? > He didn't say he was getting a backup error? > So shouldn't it be working normally? > and not have to do this?? > Russ > > -- > Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] > MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC > Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz > Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com > BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com > > > "Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]" <mwport(a)no_spam_hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:eAfw0CJ9KHA.4924(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> More info on auto-delete feature with SBS 2008 backup... >> >> Windows Server Backup 2008 - "auto-delete" function not working >> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/windowsbackup/thread/c55e4e16-22af-4d84-b2c4-7aedcf512469 >> -------------------------------- >> auto-delete feature deletes the older version of backups on the disk by >> deleting the corresponding shadow copy. each backup version is maintained >> in a a volume shadow copy on the backup location. shadow copy of a volume >> is a readonly copy of the volume. there can be multiple shadow copies on >> a volume. these are maintained by tracking the changes on the volume and >> storing them in what is called diff area files on the volume. >> >> auto-delete feature to ensure that at least some old backup copies are >> maintained on the disk -- does not automatically delete backups if space >> utilization by older copies is less than 1/8 of the disk size or in other >> words, 13% of the disk size. that means if the one full backup copy does >> not fit in the 7/8 of the disk size, backup may fail with disk full >> error. auto-delete will not automatically delete older versions to >> reclaim more older versions of backup. >> >> backup will fail with 0x80780030 media is full error. >> >> it is recommended that >> 1. either backup disk with bigger size can be used or >> 2. vssadmin utility can be used to delete more older versions of backup >> if they are not required. >> >> vssadmin list shadows /for=x: will list the shadow copies on x: and >> creation time. >> vssadmin delete shadows /for=x: /oldest can be used to delete the oldest >> shadow copy on x: where x: is the backup location. >> diskmgmt.msc can be used to assign drive letter to the backup disk >> temporarily and again removed. >> vssadmin.exe tool need to be run from elevated command prompt. >> --------------------------------- >> >> "Guzzifrank" <flbritton(a)shaw.ca> wrote in message >> news:OdU1hhF9KHA.3840(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> Doing routine checkups and found sbs2008 external drive for backup full >>> with 197 successful backups. >>> >>> It would be nice if the server console alerted on this but oh well. >>> >>> Can't find way to delete old backups. Don't simply want to deleted >>> volume and start over. >>> >>> I saw mention of a script, like the WSUS cleanup script, that can do >>> cleanup but can't find one. >>> >>> Help >>
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