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From: David Empson on 9 Feb 2010 01:33
David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote:

> I need some help on sharing folders in OS/X. I'm coming from
> PC/WinXP-Pro. I had a methodolosy in my network where I would share
> the same folder under different names. For example, I shared the folder
> with all my music files as "musc" and "music-write". The first was
> read-only and the second read-write. This worked great to stop
> unintentional modification of files.
>
> This was very easy with Windows sharing, but I can't see how to do this
> in OS/X. I just see the Sharing & Permissions panel of the get info
> pop-up. How do I do this?

As far as I can tell, you can't do this on Mac OS X, even on Mac OS X
Server (which offers a lot more options for sharing than the client
edition of Mac OS X).

Mac OS X file sharing relies on the permissions configured for the
actual file system, paying attention to the user logging in via the file
sharing protocol.

I can't see any mechanism for the file share to apply more restrictive
permissions than the file system specifies, nor to have two shares of
the same folder (via the same protocol).

The closest you could get would be logging in as different users and
having the shared folder (and everything inside it) configured with
different permissions depending on the user.

--
David Empson
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: David Rogoff on 9 Feb 2010 22:07
On 2010-02-08 22:33:32 -0800, David Empson said:

> David Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote:
>
>> I need some help on sharing folders in OS/X. I'm coming from
>> PC/WinXP-Pro. I had a methodolosy in my network where I would share
>> the same folder under different names. For example, I shared the folder
>> with all my music files as "musc" and "music-write". The first was
>> read-only and the second read-write. This worked great to stop
>> unintentional modification of files.
>>
>> This was very easy with Windows sharing, but I can't see how to do this
>> in OS/X. I just see the Sharing & Permissions panel of the get info
>> pop-up. How do I do this?
>
> As far as I can tell, you can't do this on Mac OS X, even on Mac OS X
> Server (which offers a lot more options for sharing than the client
> edition of Mac OS X).
>
> Mac OS X file sharing relies on the permissions configured for the
> actual file system, paying attention to the user logging in via the file
> sharing protocol.
>
> I can't see any mechanism for the file share to apply more restrictive
> permissions than the file system specifies, nor to have two shares of
> the same folder (via the same protocol).

This is very frustrating! Part of why I just switched my home PCs to
Macs was to have the power of Unix, but I keep running into things,
like my original question, that are simple to do under MS Windows but
impossible under OS/X. Not too mention the insanity of not being able
to resize windows from any edge (sort-of fixable with MondoMouse) and
having to click the mouse almost twice as much as in Windows because
you have to click once just to change app focus and then click again in
the app. The last one is really starting to mess up my hand, which was
already sensitive to finger stress. Any way to change this? It's hard
to believe that an entire window system, which prides itself on ease of
use, doesn't seem to have had any human factors analysis.

Back to my original question: any possibility of pulling this off with
an alias to the folder and different sharing permissions on the alias?

David




From: nospam on 9 Feb 2010 23:28
In article <4b7222e6$0$14762$c37e2936(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, David
Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote:

> It's hard
> to believe that an entire window system, which prides itself on ease of
> use, doesn't seem to have had any human factors analysis.

it does. you're just used to something different.
From: David Rogoff on 10 Feb 2010 01:09
On 2010-02-09 20:28:42 -0800, nospam said:

> In article <4b7222e6$0$14762$c37e2936(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, David
> Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote:
>
>> It's hard
>> to believe that an entire window system, which prides itself on ease of
>> use, doesn't seem to have had any human factors analysis.
>
> it does. you're just used to something different.

I thought someone would say that. Yes, I know some things seem dumb
because I'm used to how Windows does it. However, it's a fact that the
way OS/X requires clicking on a window to change focus before one can
click on items in that window means you have to click a lot more times
to do the same thing in OS/X, which is bad design.

David

From: nospam on 10 Feb 2010 01:27
In article <4b724da1$0$5845$c39e29d6(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, David
Rogoff <david(a)therogoffs.com> wrote:

> >> It's hard
> >> to believe that an entire window system, which prides itself on ease of
> >> use, doesn't seem to have had any human factors analysis.
> >
> > it does. you're just used to something different.
>
> I thought someone would say that. Yes, I know some things seem dumb
> because I'm used to how Windows does it. However, it's a fact that the
> way OS/X requires clicking on a window to change focus before one can
> click on items in that window means you have to click a lot more times
> to do the same thing in OS/X, which is bad design.

actually, it's a good design if it prevents or reduces errors, but it's
actually there, it's just not exactly the same.

for instance, try scrolling a background window by command-dragging the
scroll bar or using the wheel (with or without the command key). the
red/yellow/green buttons on each window respond without a separate
click. some apps respond to a button click when clicking in the window
(which will also activate it), while others make you click to activate
and again for a button.
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