From: Bob Larter on 6 Nov 2009 22:48 Outing Trolls is FUN! wrote: > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:56:53 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> John Navas wrote: >>> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:39:40 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote in <4af2c78c$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au>: >>> >>>> The 50mm/F1.8II is a surprisingly good lens for the money. I've taken a >>>> lot of excellent shots with mine, so please don't sell it short! >>>> I've since 'upgraded' to a 50mm/F1.4, but it's not as much of an >>>> improvement as you might expect from the price difference. >>> What you get for the money with the f/1.4 over the f/1.8 is speed, >>> not IQ. >> The f1.4 also has more aperture blades, so the bokeh is a bit nicer as well. > > Post-processing plugins with depth-map masks afford an infinite number of > aperture blades for bokeh, Um, no, it doesn't. > as well as even emulating catadioptric lens > systems no matter what camera took the image, and more. Why the hell would anyone in their right mind want to emulate the doughnut-shaped bokeh you get with a cat lens? -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
From: Bob Larter on 6 Nov 2009 22:49 Martin Brown wrote: > Ofnuts wrote: >> Trolls is FUN! wrote: >>> On 06 Nov 2009 07:28:51 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >> >> <snip prespoterous claims> >> >>> >>> YOUR LOSS! >>> >>> And a huge loss for everyone. Caused by trolls like you. Now everyone >>> has >>> to do the searching for that software based only on a vague description. >>> Good luck finding my most favorite and vastly configurable one as >>> described >>> above, I've not seen it on the net for about two years. You useless >>> trolls >>> taught me well. NEVER share the most important bits of information as >>> long >>> as a news-group is being overrun and taken over by a pack of useless and >>> pathetic trolls. The trolls will only use that information to be >>> better at >>> pretending to be photographers with the next newbies who can't >>> immediately >>> see the trolls for what they truly are. >> >> I don't believe this stuff exists. Prove me wrong! > > Google is your friend. > > One such plugin is even unimaginatively called "Bokeh". I don't like the > results but then I have never been into lenses smeared in vaseline etc. eg. > > http://alienskin.com/bokeh/index.aspx > > Can't say I would recommend it. Me either. I prefer the real bokeh you get from good lenses. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
From: Bob Larter on 6 Nov 2009 22:50 Outing Trolls is FUN! wrote: > On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:50:52 +0100, Ofnuts <o.f.n.u.t.s(a)la.poste.net> > wrote: > >> Trolls is FUN! wrote: >>> On 06 Nov 2009 07:28:51 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >> <snip prespoterous claims> >> >>> YOUR LOSS! >>> >>> And a huge loss for everyone. Caused by trolls like you. Now everyone has >>> to do the searching for that software based only on a vague description. >>> Good luck finding my most favorite and vastly configurable one as described >>> above, I've not seen it on the net for about two years. You useless trolls >>> taught me well. NEVER share the most important bits of information as long >>> as a news-group is being overrun and taken over by a pack of useless and >>> pathetic trolls. The trolls will only use that information to be better at >>> pretending to be photographers with the next newbies who can't immediately >>> see the trolls for what they truly are. >> I don't believe this stuff exists. Prove me wrong! > > I suppose I could upload two sample images, one without and one with a > depth-map catadioptric-lens annulus bokeh applied to it, Oh, I doubt that. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
From: Bob Larter on 6 Nov 2009 22:54 Dudley Hanks wrote: > "Bob Larter" <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:4af37455$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... >> John Navas wrote: >>> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:39:40 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> >>> wrote in <4af2c78c$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au>: >>> >>>> The 50mm/F1.8II is a surprisingly good lens for the money. I've taken a >>>> lot of excellent shots with mine, so please don't sell it short! >>>> I've since 'upgraded' to a 50mm/F1.4, but it's not as much of an >>>> improvement as you might expect from the price difference. >>> What you get for the money with the f/1.4 over the f/1.8 is speed, not >>> IQ. >> The f1.4 also has more aperture blades, so the bokeh is a bit nicer as >> well. > Any difference in number / quality of elements? EF50mm/F1.8II: 5 blades, 6 elements, 5 groups. EF50mm/F1.4USM: 8 blades, 7 elements, 6 groups. -- W . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
From: Bob Larter is Lionel Lauer - Look it up. on 6 Nov 2009 22:14
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:49:55 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Martin Brown wrote: >> Ofnuts wrote: >>> Trolls is FUN! wrote: >>>> On 06 Nov 2009 07:28:51 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >>> >>> <snip prespoterous claims> >>> >>>> >>>> YOUR LOSS! >>>> >>>> And a huge loss for everyone. Caused by trolls like you. Now everyone >>>> has >>>> to do the searching for that software based only on a vague description. >>>> Good luck finding my most favorite and vastly configurable one as >>>> described >>>> above, I've not seen it on the net for about two years. You useless >>>> trolls >>>> taught me well. NEVER share the most important bits of information as >>>> long >>>> as a news-group is being overrun and taken over by a pack of useless and >>>> pathetic trolls. The trolls will only use that information to be >>>> better at >>>> pretending to be photographers with the next newbies who can't >>>> immediately >>>> see the trolls for what they truly are. >>> >>> I don't believe this stuff exists. Prove me wrong! >> >> Google is your friend. >> >> One such plugin is even unimaginatively called "Bokeh". I don't like the >> results but then I have never been into lenses smeared in vaseline etc. eg. >> >> http://alienskin.com/bokeh/index.aspx >> >> Can't say I would recommend it. > >Me either. I prefer the real bokeh you get from good lenses. Bob Larter's legal name: Lionel Lauer Home news-group, an actual group in the "troll-tracker" hierarchy: alt.kook.lionel-lauer (established on, or before, 2004) Registered Description: "the 'owner of several troll domains' needs a group where he'll stay on topic." <http://groups.google.com/groups/search?hl=en&num=10&as_ugroup=alt.kook.lionel-lauer> "Results 1 - 10 of about 2,170 for group:alt.kook.lionel-lauer." |