From: Bob Larter on
Outing Trolls is FUN! wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 11:56:53 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> John Navas wrote:
>>> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:39:40 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote in <4af2c78c$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au>:
>>>
>>>> The 50mm/F1.8II is a surprisingly good lens for the money. I've taken a
>>>> lot of excellent shots with mine, so please don't sell it short!
>>>> I've since 'upgraded' to a 50mm/F1.4, but it's not as much of an
>>>> improvement as you might expect from the price difference.
>>> What you get for the money with the f/1.4 over the f/1.8 is speed,
>>> not IQ.
>> The f1.4 also has more aperture blades, so the bokeh is a bit nicer as well.
>
> Post-processing plugins with depth-map masks afford an infinite number of
> aperture blades for bokeh,

Um, no, it doesn't.

> as well as even emulating catadioptric lens
> systems no matter what camera took the image, and more.

Why the hell would anyone in their right mind want to emulate the
doughnut-shaped bokeh you get with a cat lens?

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From: Bob Larter on
Martin Brown wrote:
> Ofnuts wrote:
>> Trolls is FUN! wrote:
>>> On 06 Nov 2009 07:28:51 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>
>> <snip prespoterous claims>
>>
>>>
>>> YOUR LOSS!
>>>
>>> And a huge loss for everyone. Caused by trolls like you. Now everyone
>>> has
>>> to do the searching for that software based only on a vague description.
>>> Good luck finding my most favorite and vastly configurable one as
>>> described
>>> above, I've not seen it on the net for about two years. You useless
>>> trolls
>>> taught me well. NEVER share the most important bits of information as
>>> long
>>> as a news-group is being overrun and taken over by a pack of useless and
>>> pathetic trolls. The trolls will only use that information to be
>>> better at
>>> pretending to be photographers with the next newbies who can't
>>> immediately
>>> see the trolls for what they truly are.
>>
>> I don't believe this stuff exists. Prove me wrong!
>
> Google is your friend.
>
> One such plugin is even unimaginatively called "Bokeh". I don't like the
> results but then I have never been into lenses smeared in vaseline etc. eg.
>
> http://alienskin.com/bokeh/index.aspx
>
> Can't say I would recommend it.

Me either. I prefer the real bokeh you get from good lenses.

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From: Bob Larter on
Outing Trolls is FUN! wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:50:52 +0100, Ofnuts <o.f.n.u.t.s(a)la.poste.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Trolls is FUN! wrote:
>>> On 06 Nov 2009 07:28:51 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>> <snip prespoterous claims>
>>
>>> YOUR LOSS!
>>>
>>> And a huge loss for everyone. Caused by trolls like you. Now everyone has
>>> to do the searching for that software based only on a vague description.
>>> Good luck finding my most favorite and vastly configurable one as described
>>> above, I've not seen it on the net for about two years. You useless trolls
>>> taught me well. NEVER share the most important bits of information as long
>>> as a news-group is being overrun and taken over by a pack of useless and
>>> pathetic trolls. The trolls will only use that information to be better at
>>> pretending to be photographers with the next newbies who can't immediately
>>> see the trolls for what they truly are.
>> I don't believe this stuff exists. Prove me wrong!
>
> I suppose I could upload two sample images, one without and one with a
> depth-map catadioptric-lens annulus bokeh applied to it,

Oh, I doubt that.


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From: Bob Larter on
Dudley Hanks wrote:
> "Bob Larter" <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:4af37455$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> John Navas wrote:
>>> On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 23:39:40 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com>
>>> wrote in <4af2c78c$1(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au>:
>>>
>>>> The 50mm/F1.8II is a surprisingly good lens for the money. I've taken a
>>>> lot of excellent shots with mine, so please don't sell it short!
>>>> I've since 'upgraded' to a 50mm/F1.4, but it's not as much of an
>>>> improvement as you might expect from the price difference.
>>> What you get for the money with the f/1.4 over the f/1.8 is speed, not
>>> IQ.
>> The f1.4 also has more aperture blades, so the bokeh is a bit nicer as
>> well.
> Any difference in number / quality of elements?

EF50mm/F1.8II: 5 blades, 6 elements, 5 groups.
EF50mm/F1.4USM: 8 blades, 7 elements, 6 groups.

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From: Bob Larter is Lionel Lauer - Look it up. on
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:49:55 +1000, Bob Larter <bobbylarter(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>Martin Brown wrote:
>> Ofnuts wrote:
>>> Trolls is FUN! wrote:
>>>> On 06 Nov 2009 07:28:51 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip prespoterous claims>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> YOUR LOSS!
>>>>
>>>> And a huge loss for everyone. Caused by trolls like you. Now everyone
>>>> has
>>>> to do the searching for that software based only on a vague description.
>>>> Good luck finding my most favorite and vastly configurable one as
>>>> described
>>>> above, I've not seen it on the net for about two years. You useless
>>>> trolls
>>>> taught me well. NEVER share the most important bits of information as
>>>> long
>>>> as a news-group is being overrun and taken over by a pack of useless and
>>>> pathetic trolls. The trolls will only use that information to be
>>>> better at
>>>> pretending to be photographers with the next newbies who can't
>>>> immediately
>>>> see the trolls for what they truly are.
>>>
>>> I don't believe this stuff exists. Prove me wrong!
>>
>> Google is your friend.
>>
>> One such plugin is even unimaginatively called "Bokeh". I don't like the
>> results but then I have never been into lenses smeared in vaseline etc. eg.
>>
>> http://alienskin.com/bokeh/index.aspx
>>
>> Can't say I would recommend it.
>
>Me either. I prefer the real bokeh you get from good lenses.


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