From: Phillip Helbig---undress to reply on
In article
<8628221c-4f10-4829-b389-a5fe8cef4019(a)j21g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
Terence <tbwright(a)cantv.net> writes:

> I see, by count, that there are now 1 genuine forran postings per 3
> pages of titles. At 30 odd titles per page, that makes it close to a
> 99% spam proportion.Anybody know how something can be done?
> Or where to report in Google?

Are the spam messages (which seem to be only in c.l.f of the groups I
follow) posted THROUGH the Google Groups interface?

From: Gib Bogle on
Luka Djigas wrote:
>... they might start to disregard their users ... and turn into something like aol.

Or Microsoft, or Apple.
From: A Watcher on
Luka Djigas wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:04:18 -0600, Uno <merrilljensen(a)q.com> wrote:
>
>
>> 48 hours ago, I used google groups to look at the responses I got to the
>> thread I started. You can use google to find only the most recent
>> threads, as there were about 20 ads for drugs till I got to the first
>> topical original post, which was mine. I see none of this spam with NIN.
>>
>> I've decided to hate google for their role in screwing up free speech on
>> usenet, a form of information pollution. They are now on my fox list:
>> companies that will never see my money and whose advertised products I
>> actively avoid when purchasing.
>
>
> Oh, come on.
>
> Google isn't bad, per se. It's just that sometimes, even through good intentions, bad results
> can arise.
>
> I see nothing bad in their attempt for example, to allow us to search through usenet archives,
> just the opposite. But *they had to be aware* (if they aren't - then that's just lack of thinking
> ahead) that once you allow the usenet to be accessed worldwide, you will also have a worldwide
> amount of spam (huge).
>
> The thing about usenet, as we know it, is that its access points have always been local, restricted
> to universities, schools, academia and local isp's. In that way, spammers could be quickly dealt
> with. At worst, one server could be cut out from the rest, and spam problem solved.
> Google through it's "good intentions" made that impossible. Only they can solve it now, and that's a
> problem. Since they don't seem that interested n solving it.
>
>
> But, I agree with something; although I've always liked google (I was one of the first gmail/greader
> users and much else), I agree they're getting too "powerful" ... and I'm afraid once one has all
> that under his own control, they might start to disregard their users ... and turn into something
> like aol.
>
> -- Luka

They are already disregarding their users. They only care about power
and the money they can make with it.
From: A Watcher on
Phillip Helbig---undress to reply wrote:
> In article
> <8628221c-4f10-4829-b389-a5fe8cef4019(a)j21g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>,
> Terence <tbwright(a)cantv.net> writes:
>
>> I see, by count, that there are now 1 genuine forran postings per 3
>> pages of titles. At 30 odd titles per page, that makes it close to a
>> 99% spam proportion.Anybody know how something can be done?
>> Or where to report in Google?
>
> Are the spam messages (which seem to be only in c.l.f of the groups I
> follow) posted THROUGH the Google Groups interface?
>

comp.os.linux.misc is also afflicted
From: Luka Djigas on
On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:39:39 -0700, A Watcher <stocksami(a)earthlink.net> wrote:


>
>They are already disregarding their users. They only care about power
>and the money they can make with it.

Ah, let's be fair.

In terms of email & (some other stuff) technical support they're still a class above the
competition.

-- Luka