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From: Meteorologist on 12 Apr 2010 12:28 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Satellite_Temperatures.png If you know of an update for this figure or another way of showing the same thing, please reply. David Christainsen
From: Trawley Trash on 12 Apr 2010 13:22 On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Meteorologist <dchristainsen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Satellite_Temperatures.png > > If you know of an update for this figure > or another way of showing the same > thing, please reply. > > David Christainsen Not clear what you are looking for. The plotted data goes out to December 2009, and the data sets (with more recent data) are referenced. Is this not recent enough for you? What is this "same thing" you are trying to show?
From: JOHN on 12 Apr 2010 20:40 "Meteorologist" <dchristainsen(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:30b9ecaa-e90d-42a3-9cea-a3e9e87559d7(a)b23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Satellite_Temperatures.png > > If you know of an update for this figure > or another way of showing the same > thing, please reply. > > David Christainsen data has been averaged monthly therefore is useless. The true daily variance is hidden. If you look at real measured temperatures you will see over a 100 degree C change in one satellite track. The microwaves also pickup cloud reflection, which is not surface temperature.
From: JOHN on 12 Apr 2010 20:42 "Meteorologist" <dchristainsen(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:30b9ecaa-e90d-42a3-9cea-a3e9e87559d7(a)b23g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Satellite_Temperatures.png > > If you know of an update for this figure > or another way of showing the same > thing, please reply. > > David Christainsen http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/uah_may_08.png This graph is old. The continued satellite data is here: http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/uah_may_08.png The trend lines would be much different. It would also be much different if the high years 1979 - 1982 had been included rather than deliberately omitted to make the slope of the lines appear higher than they really are. Ray Tomes (talk) 09:52, 27 June 2008 (UTC) What's going on? I've just graphed the data from http://vortex.nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/t2lt/uahncdc.lt and it is quite different from that portrayed here. Please explain!!! Cheers MarkC (talk) 13:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC) See discussion here: I would add that the creators of this page do not want the real data to show. They are biased even to the extent that they will modify the data that they show. What happened to the N-POV standard. If it can not apply to the analysis can't it at least apply to the charts and graphs ? -Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.244.57.18 (talk) 22:32, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
From: Meteorologist on 13 Apr 2010 10:32
On Apr 12, 1:22 pm, Trawley Trash <tr...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > On Mon, 12 Apr 2010 09:28:06 -0700 (PDT) > > Meteorologist <dchristain...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Satellite_Temperatures.png > > > If you know of an update for this figure > > or another way of showing the same > > thing, please reply. > > > David Christainsen > > Not clear what you are looking for. The plotted data > goes out to December 2009, and the data sets (with more > recent data) are referenced. Is this not recent enough > for you? > > What is this "same thing" you are trying to show? The problem is conflicting authorities on whether the past 14 years show warming or cooling. Now, 14 years is a short time frame; so, one could stretch it out to the standard 30 years. Do you agree? Bottom line - our ignorance of the climate system is massive. IOW I am taking a I-don't-know approach as to what factors have caused the SLIGHT global warming the past 30 years; further, my scope is only the global warming - not regional problems or anything else. David Christainsen |