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From: Howard Brazee on 25 Jun 2010 16:06 On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:12:47 -0500, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: >> >> You can't drag a file you can't see. >> >> But if you drag a directory to another volume, >> >> it's dot-files won't be omitted from the copying that follows. >> > >> >Except if you don't have sufficient permissions for the dot-files or >> >other files within the selected folder. Then they will be left behind >> >with no warning to you. Surprisingly there are a number of files within >> >your home folder to which the user does not have full access/control. >> >> Hmmm, that's scary. How do I know when/if this is a problem? My >> standard login does not have administrator rights. > >If you use a command-line utility such as rsync to synchronize files, >typically you can have it output a log of every file it touches (or >doesn't touch). I was reading this to mean that there are times when I drag a folder, not everything gets dragged, and I wouldn't be warned of this failure. Is the solution to use a synchronization utility instead of the Mac finder interface all the time, and read the log each time? -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Warren Oates on 25 Jun 2010 16:11 In article <gs2a261vcbjeik5thvqavtjp21slosmh23(a)4ax.com>, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote: > Is the solution to use a synchronization utility instead of the Mac > finder interface all the time, and read the log each time? Yes, absolutely. Drag and drop hasn't been a useful backup "tool" since we moved to Unix. Now, there may in fact be some GUI backup utilities that _will_ move everything for you via drag and drop, but I haven't looked into that, and the Finder isn't one of them. -- Very old woody beets will never cook tender. -- Fannie Farmer
From: Howard Brazee on 25 Jun 2010 16:33 On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:11:57 -0400, Warren Oates <warren.oates(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Is the solution to use a synchronization utility instead of the Mac >> finder interface all the time, and read the log each time? > >Yes, absolutely. > >Drag and drop hasn't been a useful backup "tool" since we moved to Unix. > >Now, there may in fact be some GUI backup utilities that _will_ move >everything for you via drag and drop, but I haven't looked into that, >and the Finder isn't one of them. Hmmm, don't tell all of those people who are considering moving to a Mac because of its easy to use interface, and "it just works". The image Apple seems to be putting out is that nobody needs to know command line tools - that the Unix underpinnings are only of interest to geeks. I use a GUI synchronization utility - Chrono Sync. But I bought it primarily to get copies of my wife's critical directories on my drive where it would get backed up. (It also synchronizes stuff from our Mobile Me account where I put stuff from work). -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Wes Groleau on 25 Jun 2010 16:32 On 06-25-2010 11:31, Fred Moore wrote: > Wes Groleau<Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: >> > You can't drag a file you can't see. >> > But if you drag a directory to another volume, >> > it's dot-files won't be omitted from the copying that follows. > Except if you don't have sufficient permissions for the dot-files or > other files within the selected folder. Then they will be left behind > with no warning to you. Surprisingly there are a number of files within > your home folder to which the user does not have full access/control. Please be more specific. The top three layers of my dir tree contain NO files that are not owned by me. I did not look at permissions. And in the many times I've used Finder to copy an entire user's directory, I am not aware of any with such a failure. In other words, if any failed, they were not configurations or preferences for any applications in use. -- Wes Groleau The Inca: Yesterday and Today http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/russell?itemid=1487
From: Wes Groleau on 25 Jun 2010 16:51
On 06-25-2010 11:31, Fred Moore wrote: > sudo rsync, with the appropriate arguments_will_ do the trick however. Maybe. If the other disk is an NFS-mount, and you don't have root equivalence, then sudo will not make the other machine let down its guard. Furthermore, I never figured out why using rsync without sudo, and being owner of all files on both sides, it consistently erred on one attachment to an e-mail which I did own. -- Wes Groleau ------ "The reason most women would rather have beauty than brains is they know that most men can see better than they can think." -- James Dobson |