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From: tedd on 7 Oct 2010 13:39 At 1:30 PM -0400 10/7/10, Daniel P. Brown wrote: >On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 13:20, tedd <tedd.sperling(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi gang: > > Hi, Tedd! > > What's it like over there in Australia, where it's already Friday? ;-P > >-- ></Daniel P. Brown> LOL I'm sorry -- I seldom know what day it is. I honestly thought it was Friday. So much for me knowing what's going on, huh? That's one of the dangers of working for yourself, you seldom realize what day today is. When I used to visit the mall (I don't now), some days I would say "Gee, it's really crowded today" and my wife would answer "Certainly, it's Saturday." Cheers, tedd -- ------- http://sperling.com/
From: "=?utf-8?B?YXNoQGFzaGxleXNoZXJpZGFuLmNvLnVr?=" on 7 Oct 2010 13:50 Surely it would have been a bit more sensible to work out the time the programmer had spent on the project and then calculate it as a percentage of the total time that programmer would spend on it to complete it (which might not be the whole duration of the project) Also, counting code lines seems unfair. I know it used to be this way, but its a bit like paying firemen based on the number of fires they put out; don't be surprised if arson figures go up! I would guess though that this fellow likely had to pay some of that initial outlay of cash back though, and would further assume the total price attributed to each line was no more than 3 or 4 cents (damb English androids don't have the cent character) Thanks, Ash http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk ----- Reply message ----- From: "tedd" <tedd.sperling(a)gmail.com> Date: Thu, Oct 7, 2010 18:20 Subject: [PHP] tedd's Friday Post ($ per line) To: <php-general(a)lists.php.net> Hi gang: Several years ago I was involved in a court case where a programmers work was being evaluated to establish a dollar amount for the work done. The case was a dispute where the client wanted money back from a programmer for a discontinued project. The programmer simply wanted to be paid for the work he had done. This wasn't a case where anyone had done anything wrong, but rather a circumstance where two parties were trying to figure out who was due what. You see, the original client had been taken over by another company who put a halt to the project the programmer was working on. The new company claimed that because the project wasn't finished, then the programmer should pay back all the money he was paid up-front to start the project. However, while the project had not been finished, the programmer had indeed worked on the project for several months. The programmer stated he wanted to paid his hourly rate. But the new client stated that the up-front money paid had been based upon a bid and not an hourly rate. So, they were at odds as to what to do. The solution in this case was to place a dollar amount on the actual "lines of code" the programmer wrote. In other words, they took all of programmers code and actually counted the lines of code he wrote and then agreed to a specific dollar amount to each line. In this case, the programmer had written over 25,000 lines of code. What do you think he was paid? And with all of that said, what dollar amount would you place on your "line of code"? Cheers, tedd -- ------- http://sperling.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
From: Joshua Kehn on 7 Oct 2010 14:04 In the case payment does come down to lines of code written I'm already covered. if( count > 5) { /* Bracing Style } Regards, -Josh ____________________________________ Joshua Kehn | Josh.Kehn(a)gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com On Oct 7, 2010, at 1:50 PM, ash(a)ashleysheridan.co.uk wrote: > Surely it would have been a bit more sensible to work out the time the programmer had spent on the project and then calculate it as a percentage of the total time that programmer would spend on it to complete it (which might not be the whole duration of the project) > > Also, counting code lines seems unfair. I know it used to be this way, but its a bit like paying firemen based on the number of fires they put out; don't be surprised if arson figures go up! > > I would guess though that this fellow likely had to pay some of that initial outlay of cash back though, and would further assume the total price attributed to each line was no more than 3 or 4 cents (damb English androids don't have the cent character) > > Thanks, > Ash > http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk > > ----- Reply message ----- > From: "tedd" <tedd.sperling(a)gmail.com> > Date: Thu, Oct 7, 2010 18:20 > Subject: [PHP] tedd's Friday Post ($ per line) > To: <php-general(a)lists.php.net> > > Hi gang: > > Several years ago I was involved in a court case where a programmers > work was being evaluated to establish a dollar amount for the work > done. > > The case was a dispute where the client wanted money back from a > programmer for a discontinued project. The programmer simply wanted > to be paid for the work he had done. This wasn't a case where anyone > had done anything wrong, but rather a circumstance where two parties > were trying to figure out who was due what. > > You see, the original client had been taken over by another company > who put a halt to the project the programmer was working on. The new > company claimed that because the project wasn't finished, then the > programmer should pay back all the money he was paid up-front to > start the project. However, while the project had not been finished, > the programmer had indeed worked on the project for several months. > > The programmer stated he wanted to paid his hourly rate. But the new > client stated that the up-front money paid had been based upon a bid > and not an hourly rate. So, they were at odds as to what to do. > > The solution in this case was to place a dollar amount on the actual > "lines of code" the programmer wrote. In other words, they took all > of programmers code and actually counted the lines of code he wrote > and then agreed to a specific dollar amount to each line. In this > case, the programmer had written over 25,000 lines of code. What do > you think he was paid? > > And with all of that said, what dollar amount would you place on your > "line of code"? > > Cheers, > > tedd > > -- > ------- > http://sperling.com/ > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php >
From: "Daniel P. Brown" on 7 Oct 2010 14:09 On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 14:04, Joshua Kehn <josh.kehn(a)gmail.com> wrote: > In the case payment does come down to lines of code written I'm already covered. > > if( count > 5) > { > /* Bracing Style > } PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant count - assumed 'count' on line 1 PHP Warning: Unterminated comment starting line 3 on line 3 PHP Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end on line 4 -- </Daniel P. Brown> Dedicated Servers, Cloud and Cloud Hybrid Solutions, VPS, Hosting (866-) 725-4321 http://www.parasane.net/
From: Joshua Kehn on 7 Oct 2010 14:15
I guess that's what I get for spending the last four weeks developing with JavaScript and Node.js..... Regards, -Josh ____________________________________ Joshua Kehn | Josh.Kehn(a)gmail.com http://joshuakehn.com On Oct 7, 2010, at 2:09 PM, Daniel P. Brown wrote: > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 14:04, Joshua Kehn <josh.kehn(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> In the case payment does come down to lines of code written I'm already covered. >> >> if( count > 5) >> { >> /* Bracing Style >> } > > PHP Notice: Use of undefined constant count - assumed 'count' on line 1 > PHP Warning: Unterminated comment starting line 3 on line 3 > PHP Parse error: syntax error, unexpected $end on line 4 > > -- > </Daniel P. Brown> > Dedicated Servers, Cloud and Cloud Hybrid Solutions, VPS, Hosting > (866-) 725-4321 > http://www.parasane.net/ |