From: Ron Sommer on
I am not familiar with OEFB, so I did not comment on it.
OE can be run to read eml or nws files and read newsgroups with having an
email account installed.
--
Ron Sommer
MS MVP- Windows Live Mail

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:OHdwdlX5KHA.3292(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Are you at all familiar with OEFB, Ron?
>
> Ron Sommer wrote:
>> Running OE on a new machine will not install the accounts for email to
>> download, so there will not be any new messages.
>>
>>> It shouldn't matter if you have run OE yet or not, *except* any new mail
>>> would be lost. So if that is your concern, then yes, do wait to run OE.
> <snip>

From: Jack B on
I tried to use OEFB on the new pc but it failed.

Jack

=====================

"Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:e4JoytU5KHA.1924(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> It shouldn't matter if you have run OE yet or not, *except* any new mail
> would be lost. So if that is your concern, then yes, do wait to run OE.
> --
> Bruce Hagen
> MS-MVP [Mail]
> Imperial Beach, CA
>
>
> "Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:u24YApU5KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> > And then run OE for the first time, right?
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > ====================
> >
> >
> > "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:%23Gr9TTU5KHA.5880(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> AFAIK, you would:
> >>
> >> Install OEFB on the new machine.
> >> Copy the Backup folder to the new machine.
> >> Open OEFB and set the folder association.
> >> Restore.
> >> --
> >> Bruce Hagen
> >> MS-MVP [Mail]
> >> Imperial Beach, CA
> >>
> >>
> >> "Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> news:%23UJRKbQ5KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >I almost forgot I had OEFB on the pc -- used it years ago but then
> >> >didn't
> >> > because I was backing up the HD. Just never had to retrieve
> >> > anything.
> >> > Apparently I still have the installation file.
> >> >
> >> > The Old pc crashes frequently now, and OE is not acting right --
> >> > probably
> >> > due to one of the crashes.
> >> >
> >> > The New pc has IE8. I haven't used OE yet on that pc. I guess
> >> > there's
> >> > nothing left to do except try OEFB on that pc. Putting in the right
> >> > backup
> >> > location seems to be the only issue for me, since OEFB seems to add
> >> > to
> >> > the
> >> > name I use. Anyway, as you know, there's a lot more to OE than just
> >> > the
> >> > messages, especially if there are many OE folders and multiple email
> >> > accounts.
> >> >
> >> > I'm apprehensive about taking the next step. I suppose if I mess up
> >> > I
> >> > can
> >> > simply try again.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Jack
> >> >
> >> > ----------------------------------
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> >> > news:ufDbgJO5KHA.6132(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >> OEFB has not been available since 2003 or 2004. OEQB still is
> >> >> available.
> >> >> If you have the backup, then it should work. You would know better
> >> >> than
> >> >> I
> >> >> how it works. I use OEQB.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
> >> >>
> >> >> Outlook Express is a component of IE6 and both are a component of
> >> >> XP,
> >> >> so
> >> >> there is nothing to load. OE will already exist. As long as you
> >> >> understand
> >> >> the program, go ahead.
> >> >>
> >> >> If that fails for some reason:
> >> >>
> >> >> I assume the old PC is operable other than the OE issue? Along with
> >> >> your
> >> >> current backup, I would suggest making another, just in case.
> >> >>
> >> >> In Windows Explorer, right click on the Outlook Express folder,
> >> >> (Message
> >> >> Store), and Send To | My Documents. Copy this to CD or flash.
> >> >>
> >> >> To restore, copy to the new machine's Desktop. In OE: File | Import
> >> >> |
> >> >> Messages. Select Microsoft Outlook Express 6 and Import from an OE6
> >> >> Store
> >> >> Directory and point to where you saved it.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Bruce Hagen
> >> >> MS-MVP [Mail]
> >> >> Imperial Beach, CA
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> >> news:%23s7r%234N5KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >> > Yes, New pc is WindowsXP.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Note: I am not currently at "Old pc" or "New pc".
> >> >> > Old pc now exhibits a problem with OE; OE will not let me make any
> >> >> > replies
> >> >> > to any emails or posts. It says "Outlook Express is incorrectly
> >> >> > configured - please reinstall."
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I did find OEFB on Old pc and did a backup even though it said OE
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > running (it wasn't -- Task Mgr did not show it running). I'm not
> >> >> > sure
> >> >> > if
> >> >> > that will work on New pc. It created two folders under a
> >> >> > directory I
> >> >> > made
> >> >> > called Programs. The folders OEFB created are
> >> >> > "OE freebie backupOEFBbackupApr25"
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > "OEFBbackupApr25"
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The "OE freebie backupOEFBbackupApr25" is empty, but
> >> >> > "OEFBbackupApr25"
> >> >> > appears to have all the identities. I have put them both on New
> >> >> > pc
> >> >> > under
> >> >> > Programs. Should I try a OEFB restore on New pc then load Outlook
> >> >> > Express?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> > news:OX9NUJI5KHA.3576(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> You import, not paste, into OE. Assuming your new machine is XP.
> >> >> >> If
> >> >> >> it's
> >> >> >> Vista, their are different instructions. If its Windows 7, you
> >> >> >> have
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> decide what e-mail client you are going to use first as there is
> >> >> >> no
> >> >> >> built-in e-mail client like previous Windows versions.
> >> >> >> --
> >> >> >> Bruce Hagen
> >> >> >> MS-MVP [Mail]
> >> >> >> Imperial Beach, CA
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:OjBMr9D5KHA.3880(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> > The method is a bit confusing.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Also, where do I paste everything on the new PC hard drive?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > And do I install OE on the new PC after I've done this?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Jack
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:uNYypxw4KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> > Backup & Restore:
> >> >> >> > http://www.insideoe.com/backup/
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Backing up and Cloning your OE Identities:
> >> >> >> > http://www.insideoe.com/backup/clone.htm
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > Bruce Hagen
> >> >> >> > MS-MVP [Mail]
> >> >> >> > Imperial Beach, CA
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > "Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> > news:ejXX%23rw4KHA.3184(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >> >> >>I need to transfer my OE 6 files from one XP computer to
> >> >> >> >>another --
> >> >> >> >>what
> >> >> >> >>is
> >> >> >> >> the best way to do that?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Jack
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>


From: Bruce Hagen on
OEFB was taken offline before I could spell Outlook Express, so I can't
help much with that. You can install OEQB on the old PC and backup the
same way, transfer the backup folder and install OEQB on the new machine
then restore. I have done that a few times.

This freeware tool backs up everything in OE in seconds. Disregard what is
written in red. That is referring to a different program.

Outlook Express Quick Backup (OEQB):
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx

OEQB Instructions:
http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/oeqb.htm

If you are only worried about messages and addresses:

Old fashioned, simple way, to backup the Address Book and Messages only.

Open the Address Book in the old identity and File | Export to any place
on your HDD that is convenient for you. My Documents is fine.

To restore, open the Address Book and File | Import and point to where you
saved it. To be extra safe, copy it to CD also.

For messages:

Tools | Options | Maintenance | Store Folder will reveal the location of
your Outlook Express files. Press the Tab key to highlight the folder
location, then Ctrl+C. Close OE, then Start | Run | Ctrl+V will put the
location in the box - Click OK and you'll see the OE files. Otherwise,
write the location down and navigate to it in Windows Explorer.

In WinXP, Win2K & Win2K3, the OE user files (DBX and WAB) are by default
marked as hidden. To view these files in Windows Explorer, you must enable
Show Hidden Files and Folders under Start | Control Panel | Folder Options
Icon | View, or in Windows Explorer | Tools | Folder Options | View.

Right click on the Outlook Express folder, (Message Store), and Send To |
My Documents. Copy this to CD also as an extra precaution.

To restore if necessary, in OE: File | Import | Messages. Select Microsoft
Outlook Express 6 and Import from an OE6 Store Directory and point to
where you saved it.

If you use a CDRW, you can erase it and backup again using the same CD
every week or when you feel it necessary.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP [Mail]
Imperial Beach, CA


"Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:e0Ovpli5KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>I tried to use OEFB on the new pc but it failed.
>
> Jack
>
> =====================
>
> "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> news:e4JoytU5KHA.1924(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> It shouldn't matter if you have run OE yet or not, *except* any new
>> mail
>> would be lost. So if that is your concern, then yes, do wait to run OE.
>> --
>> Bruce Hagen
>> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> Imperial Beach, CA
>>
>>
>> "Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:u24YApU5KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> > And then run OE for the first time, right?
>> >
>> > Jack
>> >
>> > ====================
>> >
>> >
>> > "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> > news:%23Gr9TTU5KHA.5880(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> AFAIK, you would:
>> >>
>> >> Install OEFB on the new machine.
>> >> Copy the Backup folder to the new machine.
>> >> Open OEFB and set the folder association.
>> >> Restore.
>> >> --
>> >> Bruce Hagen
>> >> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> >> Imperial Beach, CA
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:%23UJRKbQ5KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> >I almost forgot I had OEFB on the pc -- used it years ago but then
>> >> >didn't
>> >> > because I was backing up the HD. Just never had to retrieve
>> >> > anything.
>> >> > Apparently I still have the installation file.
>> >> >
>> >> > The Old pc crashes frequently now, and OE is not acting right --
>> >> > probably
>> >> > due to one of the crashes.
>> >> >
>> >> > The New pc has IE8. I haven't used OE yet on that pc. I guess
>> >> > there's
>> >> > nothing left to do except try OEFB on that pc. Putting in the
>> >> > right
>> >> > backup
>> >> > location seems to be the only issue for me, since OEFB seems to
>> >> > add
>> >> > to
>> >> > the
>> >> > name I use. Anyway, as you know, there's a lot more to OE than
>> >> > just
>> >> > the
>> >> > messages, especially if there are many OE folders and multiple
>> >> > email
>> >> > accounts.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm apprehensive about taking the next step. I suppose if I mess
>> >> > up
>> >> > I
>> >> > can
>> >> > simply try again.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Jack
>> >> >
>> >> > ----------------------------------
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> > news:ufDbgJO5KHA.6132(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> OEFB has not been available since 2003 or 2004. OEQB still is
>> >> >> available.
>> >> >> If you have the backup, then it should work. You would know
>> >> >> better
>> >> >> than
>> >> >> I
>> >> >> how it works. I use OEQB.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> http://www.oehelp.com/OEBackup/Default.aspx
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Outlook Express is a component of IE6 and both are a component of
>> >> >> XP,
>> >> >> so
>> >> >> there is nothing to load. OE will already exist. As long as you
>> >> >> understand
>> >> >> the program, go ahead.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If that fails for some reason:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I assume the old PC is operable other than the OE issue? Along
>> >> >> with
>> >> >> your
>> >> >> current backup, I would suggest making another, just in case.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In Windows Explorer, right click on the Outlook Express folder,
>> >> >> (Message
>> >> >> Store), and Send To | My Documents. Copy this to CD or flash.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To restore, copy to the new machine's Desktop. In OE: File |
>> >> >> Import
>> >> >> |
>> >> >> Messages. Select Microsoft Outlook Express 6 and Import from an
>> >> >> OE6
>> >> >> Store
>> >> >> Directory and point to where you saved it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Bruce Hagen
>> >> >> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> >> >> Imperial Beach, CA
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:%23s7r%234N5KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > Yes, New pc is WindowsXP.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Note: I am not currently at "Old pc" or "New pc".
>> >> >> > Old pc now exhibits a problem with OE; OE will not let me make
>> >> >> > any
>> >> >> > replies
>> >> >> > to any emails or posts. It says "Outlook Express is
>> >> >> > incorrectly
>> >> >> > configured - please reinstall."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I did find OEFB on Old pc and did a backup even though it said
>> >> >> > OE
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > running (it wasn't -- Task Mgr did not show it running). I'm
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > sure
>> >> >> > if
>> >> >> > that will work on New pc. It created two folders under a
>> >> >> > directory I
>> >> >> > made
>> >> >> > called Programs. The folders OEFB created are
>> >> >> > "OE freebie backupOEFBbackupApr25"
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > "OEFBbackupApr25"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The "OE freebie backupOEFBbackupApr25" is empty, but
>> >> >> > "OEFBbackupApr25"
>> >> >> > appears to have all the identities. I have put them both on
>> >> >> > New
>> >> >> > pc
>> >> >> > under
>> >> >> > Programs. Should I try a OEFB restore on New pc then load
>> >> >> > Outlook
>> >> >> > Express?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:OX9NUJI5KHA.3576(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> You import, not paste, into OE. Assuming your new machine is
>> >> >> >> XP.
>> >> >> >> If
>> >> >> >> it's
>> >> >> >> Vista, their are different instructions. If its Windows 7, you
>> >> >> >> have
>> >> >> >> to
>> >> >> >> decide what e-mail client you are going to use first as there
>> >> >> >> is
>> >> >> >> no
>> >> >> >> built-in e-mail client like previous Windows versions.
>> >> >> >> --
>> >> >> >> Bruce Hagen
>> >> >> >> MS-MVP [Mail]
>> >> >> >> Imperial Beach, CA
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:OjBMr9D5KHA.3880(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> > The method is a bit confusing.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Also, where do I paste everything on the new PC hard drive?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > And do I install OE on the new PC after I've done this?
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Jack
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Bruce Hagen" <BRH(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > news:uNYypxw4KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> > Backup & Restore:
>> >> >> >> > http://www.insideoe.com/backup/
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Backing up and Cloning your OE Identities:
>> >> >> >> > http://www.insideoe.com/backup/clone.htm
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > Bruce Hagen
>> >> >> >> > MS-MVP [Mail]
>> >> >> >> > Imperial Beach, CA
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > "Jack B" <jslimp01nospam(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> > news:ejXX%23rw4KHA.3184(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> >> >>I need to transfer my OE 6 files from one XP computer to
>> >> >> >> >>another --
>> >> >> >> >>what
>> >> >> >> >>is
>> >> >> >> >> the best way to do that?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Jack
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>

From: Jack B on
Somehow I have messed up OE on the New pc.

At first, it did not open an Address Book. Upon clicking on Address Book it
would say, "Unable to open Address Book. The Address Book may not be
installed properly."

Secondly, I cannot send a response or a new message. It says, "There was an
error opening this message. An error has occurred."

Apparently I need to reinstall it, but I can't even find it via Control
Panel/Add Remove Programs!

Jack


From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on
Is MS Outlook also installed?

Jack B wrote:
> Somehow I have messed up OE on the New pc.
>
> At first, it did not open an Address Book. Upon clicking on Address Book
> it
> would say, "Unable to open Address Book. The Address Book may not be
> installed properly."
>
> Secondly, I cannot send a response or a new message. It says, "There was
> an
> error opening this message. An error has occurred."
>
> Apparently I need to reinstall it, but I can't even find it via Control
> Panel/Add Remove Programs!
>
> Jack