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From: J G Miller on 17 May 2010 16:26 On Mon, 17 May 2010 20:58:02 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > new TV card/stick is not the end of the world. It would be nice to know in which nation Felmon is located. If he is in the USofA, an ancient WinTV card is not going to be of much use to receive TV unless there is a Class A or Low Power or Translator station nearby transmitting NTSC analog. Unless of course the card has an FM radio or it has an analog video capture input for use with an analog video device. If neither of those latter points are relevant, the purchase of a digital TV card, ATSC for North America or DVB for Europe would be a sensible move.
From: Stan Bischof on 17 May 2010 17:08 In comp.os.linux.misc J G Miller <miller(a)yoyo.org> wrote: > If he is in the USofA, an ancient WinTV card is not going to > be of much use to receive TV unless there is a Class A or > Low Power or Translator station nearby transmitting NTSC analog. Here is USA the vast majority of users have direct access to NTSC signals since they receive TV from satellite or cable-- not direct broadcast. THere are likely some cable or satellite boxes that don't have composite video out, but they are somewhere between rare and non-existent. An ancient WinTV card would be just fine for most users. Stan
From: J G Miller on 17 May 2010 17:36 On Mon, 17 May 2010 21:08:23 +0000, Stan Bischof wrote: > Here is USA the vast majority of users have direct access to NTSC > signals since they receive TV from satellite or cable But if you were receiving from satellite, why would you not use a DVB-S/S2 card in your PC, or if from cable a DVB-C card, assuming digital cable? To go from a digital source to NTSC output fed to an analog WinTV card to digitize it back for viewing on a PC is a really good way to degrade picture quality. And NTSC definition looks extremely poor on a high definition monitor (1280x1024, 1680x1050 or above)
From: felmon on 18 May 2010 00:55 On Mon, 17 May 2010 20:26:06 +0000, J G Miller wrote: > On Mon, 17 May 2010 20:58:02 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote: > >> new TV card/stick is not the end of the world. > > It would be nice to know in which nation Felmon is located. I am in the US. as Stan Bischof points out, one can use cable. the WinTV card works fine for my purposes and is running right now. it's just for 'casual' viewing, not a home-entertainment setup. Felmon
From: felmon on 18 May 2010 00:58
On Mon, 17 May 2010 21:36:37 +0000, J G Miller wrote: > On Mon, 17 May 2010 21:08:23 +0000, Stan Bischof wrote: > >> Here is USA the vast majority of users have direct access to NTSC >> signals since they receive TV from satellite or cable > > But if you were receiving from satellite, why would you not use a > DVB-S/S2 card in your PC, or if from cable a DVB-C card, assuming > digital cable? I didn't know about the dvb-c card option but frankly, it's hard enough to set things up for tv so I'm not very exploratory. > To go from a digital source to NTSC output fed to an analog WinTV card > to digitize it back for viewing on a PC is a really good way to degrade > picture quality. works fine for my purposes though. > > And NTSC definition looks extremely poor on a high definition monitor > (1280x1024, 1680x1050 or above) I don't have a HD monitor and have no need for one. maybe in the future! I really don't want 'enhanced' tv viewing, I have other things to do. Felmon |