From: J G Miller on
On Mon, 17 May 2010 20:58:02 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

> new TV card/stick is not the end of the world.

It would be nice to know in which nation Felmon is located.

If he is in the USofA, an ancient WinTV card is not going to
be of much use to receive TV unless there is a Class A or
Low Power or Translator station nearby transmitting NTSC analog.

Unless of course the card has an FM radio or it has an analog
video capture input for use with an analog video device.

If neither of those latter points are relevant, the purchase
of a digital TV card, ATSC for North America or DVB for Europe
would be a sensible move.

From: Stan Bischof on
In comp.os.linux.misc J G Miller <miller(a)yoyo.org> wrote:
> If he is in the USofA, an ancient WinTV card is not going to
> be of much use to receive TV unless there is a Class A or
> Low Power or Translator station nearby transmitting NTSC analog.

Here is USA the vast majority of users have direct access
to NTSC signals since they receive TV from satellite
or cable-- not direct broadcast.
THere are likely some cable or satellite boxes
that don't have composite video out, but they are
somewhere between rare and non-existent.

An ancient WinTV card would be just fine for most users.

Stan
From: J G Miller on
On Mon, 17 May 2010 21:08:23 +0000, Stan Bischof wrote:

> Here is USA the vast majority of users have direct access to NTSC
> signals since they receive TV from satellite or cable

But if you were receiving from satellite, why would you not use a
DVB-S/S2 card in your PC, or if from cable a DVB-C card, assuming
digital cable?

To go from a digital source to NTSC output fed to an analog WinTV
card to digitize it back for viewing on a PC is a really good way
to degrade picture quality.

And NTSC definition looks extremely poor on a high definition monitor
(1280x1024, 1680x1050 or above)
From: felmon on
On Mon, 17 May 2010 20:26:06 +0000, J G Miller wrote:

> On Mon, 17 May 2010 20:58:02 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>
>> new TV card/stick is not the end of the world.
>
> It would be nice to know in which nation Felmon is located.

I am in the US. as Stan Bischof points out, one can use cable. the WinTV
card works fine for my purposes and is running right now. it's just for
'casual' viewing, not a home-entertainment setup.

Felmon
From: felmon on
On Mon, 17 May 2010 21:36:37 +0000, J G Miller wrote:

> On Mon, 17 May 2010 21:08:23 +0000, Stan Bischof wrote:
>
>> Here is USA the vast majority of users have direct access to NTSC
>> signals since they receive TV from satellite or cable
>
> But if you were receiving from satellite, why would you not use a
> DVB-S/S2 card in your PC, or if from cable a DVB-C card, assuming
> digital cable?

I didn't know about the dvb-c card option but frankly, it's hard enough
to set things up for tv so I'm not very exploratory.

> To go from a digital source to NTSC output fed to an analog WinTV card
> to digitize it back for viewing on a PC is a really good way to degrade
> picture quality.

works fine for my purposes though.

>
> And NTSC definition looks extremely poor on a high definition monitor
> (1280x1024, 1680x1050 or above)

I don't have a HD monitor and have no need for one. maybe in the future!
I really don't want 'enhanced' tv viewing, I have other things to do.

Felmon