From: Jim on 3 Jan 2008 01:56 "TP" <tperson.knowspamn(a)mailandnews.com> wrote in message news:uzKaql%23SIHA.5160(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Hi Jim, > > This post assumes you are using a 32-bit OS. > > Please check some things and report back with your findings and I will > give more advice: > > 1. Registry settings and their values located under the following key: > > HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management > > I am most interested in SessionViewSize and SessionPoolSize if they exist > and their value, but please post all entries so I can see if there is > anything strange. > > 2. The value of the following registry entry, this is a long string, so > please make certain you highlight and copy the entire thing: > > HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems > > Windows REG_EXPAND_SZ > > I am most interested in the SharedSection= part of the string, but again > please post all of it so I can look for something strange. > > 3. The contents of your boot.ini file located at the root of the system > drive. For this item I am looking to see what boot switches are present. > Specifically, I do *not* want to see /3GB and /userva. You can access the > boot.ini file through System Properties - Advanced tab, Startup and > Recovery settings, Edit startup options. > > Thanks. > > -TP > Sorry about the delay, couldn't get access to the machine over New Years. Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management] "ClearPageFileAtShutdown"=dword:00000000 "DisablePagingExecutive"=dword:00000000 "LargeSystemCache"=dword:00000001 "NonPagedPoolQuota"=dword:00000000 "NonPagedPoolSize"=dword:00000000 "PagedPoolQuota"=dword:00000000 "PagedPoolSize"=dword:00000000 "SecondLevelDataCache"=dword:00000000 "SystemPages"=dword:00000000 "PagingFiles"=hex(7):43,00,3a,00,5c,00,70,00,61,00,67,00,65,00,66,00,69,00,6c,\ 00,65,00,2e,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,20,00,32,00,30,00,34,00,36,00,20,00,34,00,\ 30,00,39,00,32,00,00,00,00,00 "PhysicalAddressExtension"=dword:00000000 "WriteWatch"=dword:00000001 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters] "VideoInitTime"=dword:0000055f "EnablePrefetcher"=dword:00000002 "AppLaunchMaxNumPages"=dword:00000fa0 "AppLaunchMaxNumSections"=dword:000000aa "AppLaunchTimerPeriod"=hex:80,69,67,ff,ff,ff,ff,ff "BootMaxNumPages"=dword:0001f400 "BootMaxNumSections"=dword:00000ff0 "BootTimerPeriod"=hex:00,f2,d8,f8,ff,ff,ff,ff "MaxNumActiveTraces"=dword:00000008 "MaxNumSavedTraces"=dword:00000008 "RootDirPath"="Prefetch" "HostingAppList"="DLLHOST.EXE,MMC.EXE,RUNDLL32.EXE" Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems] "Debug"=hex(2):00,00 "Kmode"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,\ 00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,77,00,\ 69,00,6e,00,33,00,32,00,6b,00,2e,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,00,00 "Optional"=hex(7):50,00,6f,00,73,00,69,00,78,00,00,00,00,00 "Posix"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,\ 00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,70,00,\ 73,00,78,00,73,00,73,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,00,00 "Required"=hex(7):44,00,65,00,62,00,75,00,67,00,00,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,\ 6f,00,77,00,73,00,00,00,00,00 "Windows"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,\ 74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,63,\ 00,73,00,72,00,73,00,73,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,4f,00,62,00,6a,00,\ 65,00,63,00,74,00,44,00,69,00,72,00,65,00,63,00,74,00,6f,00,72,00,79,00,3d,\ 00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,53,00,68,00,61,00,\ 72,00,65,00,64,00,53,00,65,00,63,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,3d,00,31,00,30,\ 00,32,00,34,00,2c,00,33,00,30,00,37,00,32,00,2c,00,35,00,31,00,32,00,20,00,\ 57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,3d,00,4f,00,6e,00,20,00,53,00,75,\ 00,62,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,54,00,79,00,70,00,65,00,3d,00,\ 57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,\ 00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,3d,00,62,00,61,00,73,00,65,00,73,00,72,00,76,00,\ 2c,00,31,00,20,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,3d,\ 00,77,00,69,00,6e,00,73,00,72,00,76,00,3a,00,55,00,73,00,65,00,72,00,53,00,\ 65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,49,00,6e,00,69,00,74,00,69,\ 00,61,00,6c,00,69,00,7a,00,61,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,2c,00,33,00,20,00,\ 53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,3d,00,77,00,69,00,6e,\ 00,73,00,72,00,76,00,3a,00,43,00,6f,00,6e,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,\ 72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,49,00,6e,00,69,00,74,00,69,00,61,00,6c,00,69,00,7a,\ 00,61,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,2c,00,32,00,20,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,66,00,\ 69,00,6c,00,65,00,43,00,6f,00,6e,00,74,00,72,00,6f,00,6c,00,3d,00,4f,00,66,\ 00,66,00,20,00,4d,00,61,00,78,00,52,00,65,00,71,00,75,00,65,00,73,00,74,00,\ 54,00,68,00,72,00,65,00,61,00,64,00,73,00,3d,00,31,00,36,00,00,00 [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems\CSRSS] "CsrSrvSharedSectionBase"=dword:7f6f0000 Boot.ini [boot loader] timeout=30 default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS [operating systems] multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows Server 2003, Standard" /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptOut ---- What parameter needs to be changed in your opinion? Regards, Jim
From: Jim on 3 Jan 2008 02:02 "Vera Noest [MVP]" <vera.noest(a)remove-this.hem.utfors.se> wrote in message news:Xns9A17DB1B5989Everanoesthemutforsse(a)207.46.248.16... > You have probably seen KB 142676, but for Windows 2003 you'll want > this one: > > 126962 - "Out of Memory" error message appears when you have a > large number of programs running > http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=126962 > > Also check JSI Tip nr 8057: > > Some applications may not run correctly in a Windows Server 2003 > Terminal Services environment > http://www.jsifaq.com/SF/Tips/Tip.aspx?id=8057 > > _________________________________________________________ > Vera Noest > MCSE, CCEA, Microsoft MVP - Terminal Server > TS troubleshooting: http://ts.veranoest.net > ___ please respond in newsgroup, NOT by private email ___ > What values do you recommend? It would help if I could get dheapmon to run, otherwise I think I'm shooting in the dark. I can't find the proper symbol table in order to get it to install. Any ideas here? Regards, Jim
From: Jim on 3 Jan 2008 15:52 Scroll down for appended information for the windows value. "Jim" <nobody(a)nospam.edu> wrote in message news:%23yDP7VdTIHA.5288(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > "TP" <tperson.knowspamn(a)mailandnews.com> wrote in message > news:uzKaql%23SIHA.5160(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Hi Jim, >> >> This post assumes you are using a 32-bit OS. >> >> Please check some things and report back with your findings and I will >> give more advice: >> >> 1. Registry settings and their values located under the following key: >> >> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management >> >> I am most interested in SessionViewSize and SessionPoolSize if they exist >> and their value, but please post all entries so I can see if there is >> anything strange. >> >> 2. The value of the following registry entry, this is a long string, so >> please make certain you highlight and copy the entire thing: >> >> HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems >> >> Windows REG_EXPAND_SZ >> >> I am most interested in the SharedSection= part of the string, but again >> please post all of it so I can look for something strange. >> >> 3. The contents of your boot.ini file located at the root of the system >> drive. For this item I am looking to see what boot switches are present. >> Specifically, I do *not* want to see /3GB and /userva. You can access >> the boot.ini file through System Properties - Advanced tab, Startup and >> Recovery settings, Edit startup options. >> >> Thanks. >> >> -TP >> > > Sorry about the delay, couldn't get access to the machine over New Years. > Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session > Manager\Memory Management] "ClearPageFileAtShutdown"=dword:00000000 > > "DisablePagingExecutive"=dword:00000000 > > "LargeSystemCache"=dword:00000001 > > "NonPagedPoolQuota"=dword:00000000 > > "NonPagedPoolSize"=dword:00000000 > > "PagedPoolQuota"=dword:00000000 > > "PagedPoolSize"=dword:00000000 > > "SecondLevelDataCache"=dword:00000000 > > "SystemPages"=dword:00000000 > > "PagingFiles"=hex(7):43,00,3a,00,5c,00,70,00,61,00,67,00,65,00,66,00,69,00,6c,\ > > 00,65,00,2e,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,20,00,32,00,30,00,34,00,36,00,20,00,34,00,\ > > 30,00,39,00,32,00,00,00,00,00 > > "PhysicalAddressExtension"=dword:00000000 > > "WriteWatch"=dword:00000001 > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session > Manager\Memory Management\PrefetchParameters] > "VideoInitTime"=dword:0000055f > > "EnablePrefetcher"=dword:00000002 > > "AppLaunchMaxNumPages"=dword:00000fa0 > > "AppLaunchMaxNumSections"=dword:000000aa > > "AppLaunchTimerPeriod"=hex:80,69,67,ff,ff,ff,ff,ff > > "BootMaxNumPages"=dword:0001f400 > > "BootMaxNumSections"=dword:00000ff0 > > "BootTimerPeriod"=hex:00,f2,d8,f8,ff,ff,ff,ff > > "MaxNumActiveTraces"=dword:00000008 > > "MaxNumSavedTraces"=dword:00000008 > > "RootDirPath"="Prefetch" > > "HostingAppList"="DLLHOST.EXE,MMC.EXE,RUNDLL32.EXE" > > > > > > Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session > > Manager\SubSystems] > > "Debug"=hex(2):00,00 > > "Kmode"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,\ > > 00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,77,00,\ > > 69,00,6e,00,33,00,32,00,6b,00,2e,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,00,00 > > "Optional"=hex(7):50,00,6f,00,73,00,69,00,78,00,00,00,00,00 > > "Posix"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,74,\ > > 00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,70,00,\ > > 73,00,78,00,73,00,73,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,00,00 > > "Required"=hex(7):44,00,65,00,62,00,75,00,67,00,00,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,\ > > 6f,00,77,00,73,00,00,00,00,00 I had not idea that regedit "export" would dump it in hex and not "english." Here the value as "copy-pasted" right from regedit: %SystemRoot%\system32\csrss.exe ObjectDirectory=\Windows SharedSection=1024,3072,512 Windows=On SubSystemType=Windows ServerDll=basesrv,1 ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3 ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2 ProfileControl=Off MaxRequestThreads=16 Sorry. > > "Windows"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,\ > > 74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,63,\ > > 00,73,00,72,00,73,00,73,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,4f,00,62,00,6a,00,\ > > 65,00,63,00,74,00,44,00,69,00,72,00,65,00,63,00,74,00,6f,00,72,00,79,00,3d,\ > > 00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,53,00,68,00,61,00,\ > > 72,00,65,00,64,00,53,00,65,00,63,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,3d,00,31,00,30,\ > > 00,32,00,34,00,2c,00,33,00,30,00,37,00,32,00,2c,00,35,00,31,00,32,00,20,00,\ > > 57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,3d,00,4f,00,6e,00,20,00,53,00,75,\ > > 00,62,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,54,00,79,00,70,00,65,00,3d,00,\ > > 57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,\ > > 00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,3d,00,62,00,61,00,73,00,65,00,73,00,72,00,76,00,\ > > 2c,00,31,00,20,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,3d,\ > > 00,77,00,69,00,6e,00,73,00,72,00,76,00,3a,00,55,00,73,00,65,00,72,00,53,00,\ > > 65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,49,00,6e,00,69,00,74,00,69,\ > > 00,61,00,6c,00,69,00,7a,00,61,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,2c,00,33,00,20,00,\ > > 53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,3d,00,77,00,69,00,6e,\ > > 00,73,00,72,00,76,00,3a,00,43,00,6f,00,6e,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,\ > > 72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,49,00,6e,00,69,00,74,00,69,00,61,00,6c,00,69,00,7a,\ > > 00,61,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,2c,00,32,00,20,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,66,00,\ > > 69,00,6c,00,65,00,43,00,6f,00,6e,00,74,00,72,00,6f,00,6c,00,3d,00,4f,00,66,\ > > 00,66,00,20,00,4d,00,61,00,78,00,52,00,65,00,71,00,75,00,65,00,73,00,74,00,\ > > 54,00,68,00,72,00,65,00,61,00,64,00,73,00,3d,00,31,00,36,00,00,00 > > [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session > > Manager\SubSystems\CSRSS] > > "CsrSrvSharedSectionBase"=dword:7f6f0000 > > Boot.ini > > [boot loader] > > timeout=30 > > default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS > > [operating systems] > > multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows Server 2003, > Standard" > > /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptOut > > ---- > > What parameter needs to be changed in your opinion? > > Regards, > > Jim > > > >
From: Jim on 3 Jan 2008 15:56 "Hank Arnold (MVP)" <rasilon(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:usrpyvFTIHA.4880(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Jim wrote: >> We are running 2003 server SP 2 with terminal services on a 4 processor >> server. >> >> We recently installed SP2 on a base 2003 standard server via windows >> update. Since the installation, we receive "warning" event 244 ("Failed >> to create a desktop due to desktop heap exhaustion") and all subsequent >> logons of remote desktops fail, with no further error messages. One or >> possibly two logons work, then the the warning message is issued, and >> further logons fail until the system is rebooted. >> >> Terminal server has 5 CALs, so this is not a licensing issue. >> >> I've attempted to install the dheapmon tool but it can't find the correct >> symbol table, even though I've downloaded and installed the 2003 server >> sp2 symbole table from microsoft. >> >> The readme html file has a link to a KB entry on how to increase the size >> of the desktop heap, but the instructions are for NT 3.51 and the >> registry keys referenced aren't even close. I can't find a KB entry for >> 2003 SP2. >> >> I'm not sure if this is a bug (memory leak) in an application, if SP2 >> requirements require adjustments, or what. The owner of the server >> purchased an upgrade to the application that runs on the server, however, >> it is not being used in my testing. >> >> Anybody have any idea what's going on here or how I should modify the >> heap parameters? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Jim >> >> >> > > FWIW, here are links from eventid.net: > > http://eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=244&eventno=3654&source=Win32k&phase=1 > > http://eventid.net/display.asp?eventid=1004&source= Unfortunately, to see the details, I have to have a paid subscription.
From: TP on 3 Jan 2008 16:08 No problem Jim--I just brought it into regedit so that I could view every setting natively. I am typing a response to you now. -TP Jim wrote: > Scroll down for appended information for the windows value. > > "Jim" <nobody(a)nospam.edu> wrote in message > news:%23yDP7VdTIHA.5288(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > I had not idea that regedit "export" would dump it in hex and not > "english." > > Here the value as "copy-pasted" right from regedit: > > %SystemRoot%\system32\csrss.exe ObjectDirectory=\Windows > SharedSection=1024,3072,512 Windows=On SubSystemType=Windows > ServerDll=basesrv,1 ServerDll=winsrv:UserServerDllInitialization,3 > ServerDll=winsrv:ConServerDllInitialization,2 ProfileControl=Off > MaxRequestThreads=16 > > Sorry. > >> >> "Windows"=hex(2):25,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,52,00,6f,00,6f,00,\ >> >> 74,00,25,00,5c,00,73,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,33,00,32,00,5c,00,63,\ >> >> 00,73,00,72,00,73,00,73,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,20,00,4f,00,62,00,6a,00,\ >> >> 65,00,63,00,74,00,44,00,69,00,72,00,65,00,63,00,74,00,6f,00,72,00,79,00,3d,\ >> >> 00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,53,00,68,00,61,00,\ >> >> 72,00,65,00,64,00,53,00,65,00,63,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,3d,00,31,00,30,\ >> >> 00,32,00,34,00,2c,00,33,00,30,00,37,00,32,00,2c,00,35,00,31,00,32,00,20,00,\ >> >> 57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,3d,00,4f,00,6e,00,20,00,53,00,75,\ >> >> 00,62,00,53,00,79,00,73,00,74,00,65,00,6d,00,54,00,79,00,70,00,65,00,3d,00,\ >> >> 57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,00,73,00,20,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,\ >> >> 00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,3d,00,62,00,61,00,73,00,65,00,73,00,72,00,76,00,\ >> >> 2c,00,31,00,20,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,3d,\ >> >> 00,77,00,69,00,6e,00,73,00,72,00,76,00,3a,00,55,00,73,00,65,00,72,00,53,00,\ >> >> 65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,49,00,6e,00,69,00,74,00,69,\ >> >> 00,61,00,6c,00,69,00,7a,00,61,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,2c,00,33,00,20,00,\ >> >> 53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,3d,00,77,00,69,00,6e,\ >> >> 00,73,00,72,00,76,00,3a,00,43,00,6f,00,6e,00,53,00,65,00,72,00,76,00,65,00,\ >> >> 72,00,44,00,6c,00,6c,00,49,00,6e,00,69,00,74,00,69,00,61,00,6c,00,69,00,7a,\ >> >> 00,61,00,74,00,69,00,6f,00,6e,00,2c,00,32,00,20,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,66,00,\ >> >> 69,00,6c,00,65,00,43,00,6f,00,6e,00,74,00,72,00,6f,00,6c,00,3d,00,4f,00,66,\ >> >> 00,66,00,20,00,4d,00,61,00,78,00,52,00,65,00,71,00,75,00,65,00,73,00,74,00,\ >> >> 54,00,68,00,72,00,65,00,61,00,64,00,73,00,3d,00,31,00,36,00,00,00 >> >> [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session >> >> Manager\SubSystems\CSRSS] >> >> "CsrSrvSharedSectionBase"=dword:7f6f0000 >> >> Boot.ini >> >> [boot loader] >> >> timeout=30 >> >> default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS >> >> [operating systems] >> >> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows Server 2003, >> Standard" >> >> /fastdetect /NoExecute=OptOut >> >> ---- >> >> What parameter needs to be changed in your opinion? >> >> Regards, >> >> Jim
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