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From: ginahoy on 13 Mar 2010 18:09
Robear Dyer (PA Bear) writes:
> Why hasn't SP3 been installed by now?
I guess you could say I'm the antithesis of an early adopter. I've only been
running XP for 2 years. I ran WinME for more than 2 years after end of
support with no ill effects.

> How long overdue was it and why was it overdue? Is Automatic Updates enabled?
About 11 months. I only do manual updates, although admittedly I should do
them more often.

> > I recall one of the updates was a SP for NET 2.0.
> We can't rely on your recollection.
Bad choice of words. One of the updates was indeed a SP for NET 2.0 (KB953300)

> What does Update History section of http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com say you installed yesterday (KB numbers)?
There was also a SP for NET 1.1, KB953297. The rest were mostly XP security
updates (40 in total).

> Is it once every 20 minutes or not? (Yes, time it & make a record of it before replying.)
The time depends on whether the computer is idle or not. When idle, I timed
it at 22.5 minutes. Another time, it was 20 minutes.

> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?

I use Avira. I update the definition file and do a manual scan once a week
(also MalwareBytes). Since I use Firefox, I rarely find any issues and I
don't ever recall a virus detection on this machine. I only use my router's
firewall (Defender is turned off). Good browsing and email habits are the
best defense against bad stuff, coupled with regular scans.

> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you bought it)?

No. I installed retail version of XP so no pre-installed security software.
I previously used AVG, but uninstalled last summer and replaced with Avira.

Here are the reasons I believe the problem is related to mscorsvw (and hence
NET Framework):
1) the problem started immediately after the updates
2) I found at least two other reports of mscorsvr causing unexplained beeps
3) the Process Monitor log reveals that the beep occurs in conjunction with
a flurry of msconsvw activitiy
4) my attempt to force ngen to process all pending processes reliably
generates the beep when it hangs on a missing file attributed to AutoCAD

I think #4 pretty much nails it. Since my autoCAD install is nominal, I have
no idea how to resolve the missing file error, which is apparently
responsible for the beeps.

It is frustrating that mscorsvw doesn't provide GUI guidance when it
encounters an error. The user shouldn't have to go to all this trouble to
identify the source of an error, and in this, case, still no clue as to how
to resolve the missing file issue. (e.g., if I knew where mscorsvw expects to
find adui16res.dll, I would simply copy it to that location!)
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 13 Mar 2010 19:05
Entire thread history:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsupdate/browse_frm/thread/4a90abaabd276c47

> I've only been running XP for 2 years.

WinXP SP3 was released two years ago.

> ...I only do manual updates, although admittedly I should do
> them more often

Do you know that Automatic Updates (AU) can be configured not to download or
install updates without your approval? If you'd enable AU with this
setting, you'll know when critical security updates are available, at which
point you can decide if, when, and how you install them.

Not only is your computer (and data) at-risk if you're not fully patched,
your computer puts every other computer in the world at-risk, too.

> I use Avira. I update the definition file and do a manual scan once a week

Why isn't Avira AntiVir configured to update itself at least once a day?
See "at-risk" above.

> I use Firefox

But Windows uses IE, even if you don't, so it's very important to keep IE
fully-patched, too.

> Here are the reasons I believe the problem is related to mscorsvw...

Your issue really doesn't have anything to do with Windows Update
functionality so this isn't really the best place to find assistance.
Perhaps one of these forums would be best? =>
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en/category/netdevelopment

QED: Could you issue have anything to do with the fact that AutoCAD 2005 is
so dated?

Good luck.


ginahoy wrote:
>> Why hasn't SP3 been installed by now?
> I guess you could say I'm the antithesis of an early adopter. I've only
> been
> running XP for 2 years. I ran WinME for more than 2 years after end of
> support with no ill effects.
>
>> How long overdue was it and why was it overdue? Is Automatic Updates
>> enabled?
> About 11 months. I only do manual updates, although admittedly I should do
> them more often.
>
>>> I recall one of the updates was a SP for NET 2.0.
>> We can't rely on your recollection.
> Bad choice of words. One of the updates was indeed a SP for NET 2.0
> (KB953300)
>
>> What does Update History section of http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com
>> say
>> you installed yesterday (KB numbers)?
> There was also a SP for NET 1.1, KB953297. The rest were mostly XP
> security
> updates (40 in total).
>
>> Is it once every 20 minutes or not? (Yes, time it & make a record of it
>> before replying.)
> The time depends on whether the computer is idle or not. When idle, I
> timed
> it at 22.5 minutes. Another time, it was 20 minutes.
>
>> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed and is your
>> subscription current? What anti-spyware applications (other than
>> Defender)? What third-party firewall (if any)?
>
> I use Avira. I update the definition file and do a manual scan once a week
> (also MalwareBytes). Since I use Firefox, I rarely find any issues and I
> don't ever recall a virus detection on this machine. I only use my
> router's
> firewall (Defender is turned off). Good browsing and email habits are the
> best defense against bad stuff, coupled with regular scans.
>
>> Has a(another) Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on the
>> computer (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you
>> bought it)?
>
> No. I installed retail version of XP so no pre-installed security
> software.
> I previously used AVG, but uninstalled last summer and replaced with
> Avira.
>
> Here are the reasons I believe the problem is related to mscorsvw (and
> hence
> NET Framework):
> 1) the problem started immediately after the updates
> 2) I found at least two other reports of mscorsvr causing unexplained
> beeps
> 3) the Process Monitor log reveals that the beep occurs in conjunction
> with
> a flurry of msconsvw activitiy
> 4) my attempt to force ngen to process all pending processes reliably
> generates the beep when it hangs on a missing file attributed to AutoCAD
>
> I think #4 pretty much nails it. Since my autoCAD install is nominal, I
> have
> no idea how to resolve the missing file error, which is apparently
> responsible for the beeps.
>
> It is frustrating that mscorsvw doesn't provide GUI guidance when it
> encounters an error. The user shouldn't have to go to all this trouble to
> identify the source of an error, and in this, case, still no clue as to
> how
> to resolve the missing file issue. (e.g., if I knew where mscorsvw expects
> to find adui16res.dll, I would simply copy it to that location!)

From: ginahoy on 14 Mar 2010 03:26
Thanks for the tip. I posted in the CLR forum in the msdn site. My update
strategy, while admittedly unorthodox, has served me well.
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