From: Christoph Schmees on
Rob schrieb:
> ...
>
> Of course the systems have RAID-1.
> The LVM is too complicated and too restrictive. When I cannot have
> everything on LVM (including root, boot, swap) there is almost nothing left
> that can be put on it.
> ...

but you *can* have everything under LVM, at least opensuse 11.2 -
except /boot :-)
I have a Motherboard RAID5 made of four identical 500GB SATA drives.
The RAID5 is recognized as /dev/mapper/nvidia_bcacfdbg
The suse install made two partitions of it, one /boot and the rest as
LVM. The default install would make the /boot very small (about 70MB
IIRC), but I got in trouble with the first kernel update. So on my
second attempt I made it much larger, 1GB, to have immense spare
space. I don't foresee any bottleneck here in the near or far future.
And the benefits of LVM need no explanation, do they?

Christoph

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From: Chris Cox on
On Mon, 2010-04-26 at 21:40 +0200, Christoph Schmees wrote:
> Rob schrieb:
> > ...
> >
> > Of course the systems have RAID-1.
> > The LVM is too complicated and too restrictive. When I cannot have
> > everything on LVM (including root, boot, swap) there is almost nothing left
> > that can be put on it.
> > ...
>
> but you *can* have everything under LVM, at least opensuse 11.2 -
> except /boot :-)

??? You can boot from LVM in 11.2 AFAIK (even earlier versions).

Whether or not that is wise is a different matter.

> I have a Motherboard RAID5 made of four identical 500GB SATA drives.
> The RAID5 is recognized as /dev/mapper/nvidia_bcacfdbg
> The suse install made two partitions of it, one /boot and the rest as
> LVM. The default install would make the /boot very small (about 70MB
> IIRC), but I got in trouble with the first kernel update. So on my
> second attempt I made it much larger, 1GB, to have immense spare
> space. I don't foresee any bottleneck here in the near or far future.
> And the benefits of LVM need no explanation, do they?

/boot probably doesn't need to bigger than 100M.. just make sure
you use a NON-journaled filesystem (to avoid the 30M swipe).


From: Will Honea on
DenverD wrote:

> Rob wrote:
>> It is SUSE LINUX 10.0.
>
> ok..upgrading to 11.2 is 'supported' only from 11.1, see previous
> rock's upgrade cite..

And the school of hard knocks proved even that to be problematic - lots of
niggling little problems, although most were resolved by the first few
updates. KDE4 and my particular old Nvidia video (6100) did NOT play nice.

--
Will Honea

From: Paul J Gans on
DenverD <spam.trap(a)somewhere.dk> wrote:
>Rob wrote:
>> These are production systems, not some playground that I can bring
>> down at will.

>do you *really* want to install openSUSE and thereby _commit_ yourself
>to a forced update (or non-support with security patches, etc) every year?

That's an interesting question. I am in a situation somewhat
like Bob's, but different enough to lead me to a different
answer. I run a production system, but I am the only real
user. Thus I can predict future computing needs fairly well
and allow time for an upgrade.

Still, I prefer to upgrade every other release or sometimes
every third release.

But I've come to understand that I have to dedicate an old
machine as a test bed. That will help.

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--- Paul J. Gans
From: Rob on
DenverD <spam.trap(a)SOMEwhere.dk> wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>> These are production systems, not some playground that I can bring
>> down at will.
>
> do you *really* want to install openSUSE and thereby _commit_ yourself
> to a forced update (or non-support with security patches, etc) every year?

I have tried one time to use an official SLES release, and that was
"such an experience never again".

Then I am more prepared to use the open variant and maybe have to live
with some theoretical vulnerability (which often does not really exist
in the very limited featureset that we use), and to update it once
every few years.
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