From: Rob on
houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>> Already the first step, to get it registered and applying updates, took
>> over a week because of a very irritating bug.
>
> OK.
>
>> It was on the LAN with only a proxyserver connecting to internet, and
>> although one could configure a proxy during installation this was not
>> working.
>
> Mmm. As I read it, this is not a SLE issue.

It is.
It should work on a LAN with a Proxy. It didn't because the system
did not use the proxy and attempted to connect by sending packets to
the Novell system via the default gateway.

> Never tried the service pack, but had no issues with the updates.

So it must have been very little that you did with the system.
There is constant attention brought to the service pack that one
should install for the system to remain supported.

> I can only say: well, duh! SLE is about the updates (for many years) if
> you pay them. Not paying them, for me obviously, leads to no updates, as
> that is what you pay for. And forever is also not true. The maximum is 7
> years. St
> SUSE. SuSE does not exist since few years. Standard is 5 years. Take
> away a year of waiting, because you do not want a 'new' distribution and
> you are at 4-6 years.

We have Windows 2000 systems running that we bought once, paid the
license once, and still get security updates for. We have no support
contract for them, but still we get the security updates. We do not
expect support or functional updates, but security updates are different.
That system is 10 years old.
From: Eef Hartman on
Paul J Gans <gansno(a)panix.com> wrote:
> Still, I prefer to upgrade every other release or sometimes
> every third release.

As the support cycle is currently: current and previous release,
plus a few months overlap for the one BEFORE that and openSUSE
releases are issued every 8 months, the longest you can use any
newer release and still get updates/patches FOR it is about 18 months,
so 1.5 year between "must upgrade"s.

PS: 11.0 and 11.1 still have a 2 year lifetime, the above schedule
was started with the 11.2 release.
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From: Paul J Gans on
Eef Hartman <E.J.M.Hartman(a)tudelft.nl> wrote:
>Paul J Gans <gansno(a)panix.com> wrote:
>> Still, I prefer to upgrade every other release or sometimes
>> every third release.

>As the support cycle is currently: current and previous release,
>plus a few months overlap for the one BEFORE that and openSUSE
>releases are issued every 8 months, the longest you can use any
>newer release and still get updates/patches FOR it is about 18 months,
>so 1.5 year between "must upgrade"s.

>PS: 11.0 and 11.1 still have a 2 year lifetime, the above schedule
>was started with the 11.2 release.

I was vaguely aware of that. I'm still running 11.1. I upgraded,
IIRC, from 10.2.

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--- Paul J. Gans
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