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From: Cliff Galiher - MVP on 22 Apr 2010 15:21
The short answer is you have the wrong version for your needs.

SBS is designed and intended to run as the hub of an internal network. Many
of the SBS pieces were built expecting this and disabling those pieces
*will* cause problems down the road. The differences in IIS are minimal,
but it is those *other* pieces that will cause you problems.

I also read that you justified your purchase of SBS because of price. But
this, as others have pointed out, makes no sense.

Windows Server Web Edition (the appropriate version for your needs) sells
for roughly $400 US, where SBS Standard (not premium) sells for
approximately $1,000 US. (very rough estimates, and depends on your
reseller, obviously) but the point is....web server is *CHEAPER* than SBS.

-Cliff


"mpscom" <mpscom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:FB85C74E-BD93-450E-8186-D72304A930FC(a)microsoft.com...
> hello,
> i have some questions related to sbs 2003.
> i would like to host some community websites on sbs 2003 box.
> everything is installed like in the licensing agreement (ads, exchange
> ...).
>
> now my questions:
>
> 1. what are the differences between sbs 2003, server 2003 and server 2003
> web edition?
>
> 2. are there any licensing violations
>
> i can't find any licensing information that would forbid to do so.
>
> any help would be appreciated
>
From: kj [SBS MVP] on 22 Apr 2010 16:25
mpscom wrote:
> hello,
> i have some questions related to sbs 2003.
> i would like to host some community websites on sbs 2003 box.
> everything is installed like in the licensing agreement (ads,
> exchange ...).
>
> now my questions:
>
> 1. what are the differences between sbs 2003, server 2003 and server
> 2003 web edition?
>
> 2. are there any licensing violations
>
> i can't find any licensing information that would forbid to do so.
>
> any help would be appreciated

"community websites" might be in the grey area of licensing. Public, non
authenticated SBS web site is intended for the small business web site at
most (and not a recommended use btw). "community web sites" doesn't sound
like it fits that very well.

Internet user authentication on any of the 'community websites', imo, would
cross over the grey and into the 'not liecensed usage'.

Web edition is what you want, as others have said.

--
/kj


From: Leythos on 22 Apr 2010 17:29
In article <1E1DE4C5-5ACE-4B28-9D03-BFF5501AC81B(a)microsoft.com>,
mpscom(a)discussions.microsoft.com says...
> the simply reason to use the sbs as webserver is the price. for me the sbs
> is cheaper than the other servers.
>

Web Server version is cheaper than SBS.

SBS is not licenses for public web access.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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From: Ace Fekay [MVP - Directory Services, MCT] on 22 Apr 2010 22:29
I'm sorry, maybe I am misunderstanding your question. I am not sure
what type of suggestions you are looking for?

There is nothing difference between the two regarding IIS, however,
there are built in apps on SBS that can and may interfere with the
websites you want to create.

As for the price, as Cliff said, web edition is $400.00. SBS is around
$1500 for 5 users, IIRC.

Therefore, SBS would be a pretty expensive webserver.

Ace



On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 12:16:04 -0700, mpscom
<mpscom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>hello ace fekay,
>thank you for your reply.
>
>sorry for not clearly describing the reasons for using sbs as web server.
>
>it's simply the price.
>
>@ace fekay
>hello ace, you wrote:
>> Besides, allowing public access to your SBS is a security challenge
>> possibly leading to compromise. The attackers out there have numerous
>> tools on hand to attack a machine through IIS.
>
>well, this is right, but what's the difference between an iis on sbs 2003
>and an iis on 2003 server web edition? sounds not logical to me...
>
>any other suggestions?
>
>
>
>"Ace Fekay [MVP - Directory Services, MCT" wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:45:01 -0700, mpscom
>> <mpscom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >hello,
>> >i have some questions related to sbs 2003.
>> >i would like to host some community websites on sbs 2003 box.
>> >everything is installed like in the licensing agreement (ads, exchange ...).
>> >
>> >now my questions:
>> >
>> >1. what are the differences between sbs 2003, server 2003 and server 2003
>> >web edition?
>> >
>> >2. are there any licensing violations
>> >
>> >i can't find any licensing information that would forbid to do so.
>> >
>> >any help would be appreciated
>>
>> If the only intention for your SBS is to host websites, I would think
>> it's a pretty expensive webserver if you are not using the other
>> features.
>>
>> Windows 2003 Web Edition is what you want.
>>
>> Besides, allowing public access to your SBS is a security challenge
>> possibly leading to compromise. The attackers out there have numerous
>> tools on hand to attack a machine through IIS.
>>
>> Ace
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and confers no rights.
>>
>> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution.
>>
>> Ace Fekay, MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
>> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>> Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
>>
>> If you feel this is an urgent issue and require immediate assistance, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>> .
>>
From: Ace Fekay [MVP - Directory Services, MCT] on 23 Apr 2010 01:48
I'm not sure what you mean??? Windows Web Edition is about $400.00.
SBS is about $1500.00 with a 5 user client pack.

And as Leythos said, SBS does not have the licenses for what you're
trying to do.

Did I miss something?

Ace




On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:54:01 -0700, mpscom
<mpscom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>hello steveb,
>thank you for your reply.
>
>but i'm not planing to use exchange and any other features of the sbs.
>as i wrote in my post, i installed all the features of the sbs but after that
>i simply disabled the not needed services.
>
>for security reasons there is firewall in front of the sbs, only the ports
>22, 80 and 443 are enabled.
>
>the simply reason to use the sbs as webserver is the price. for me the sbs
>is cheaper than the other servers.
>
>"SteveB" wrote:
>
>> SBS 2003 is really the wrong product for hosting public websites so I'm not
>> sure why you chose that. Are you planning to use the Exchange and other SBS
>> functionalities for some internal business use as well? If so definitely
>> don't host public websites on it at all.
>>
>> "mpscom" <mpscom(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:FB85C74E-BD93-450E-8186-D72304A930FC(a)microsoft.com...
>> > hello,
>> > i have some questions related to sbs 2003.
>> > i would like to host some community websites on sbs 2003 box.
>> > everything is installed like in the licensing agreement (ads, exchange
>> > ...).
>> >
>> > now my questions:
>> >
>> > 1. what are the differences between sbs 2003, server 2003 and server 2003
>> > web edition?
>> >
>> > 2. are there any licensing violations
>> >
>> > i can't find any licensing information that would forbid to do so.
>> >
>> > any help would be appreciated
>> >
>>
>>
>> .
>>
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