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From: Russell3 on 23 Oct 2006 16:18
Hi Crina. Thanks for your time and advice.

A. Time Service enabled and started. Yes - verified initialli and after D.
below.

B. IS is not installed. Control Panel->Add/Remove programs. The list
produced does not include "Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration
Server", so ISA is not present.

C. Re-Configure. Did that and all commands completed successfully. Still
getting error ID 29 (wait 5 min after the action and the errro shows again on
the System Event Viewer)

E. Hot fix 830092. THis was installed months ago and shows up in the Control
Panel->add/Remove programs list.

D. H/W router/firewall.
We have an adsl router, the gateway.
The Type value was NTP. Changing it to Nt5DS had no effect.

So I have no progress.
Any other suggestions?

Kind regards
Russell


""Crina Li"" wrote:

> Hi Russell,
>
> Thank you for posting in SBS newsgroup.
>
> I am sorry for the delayed response due to weekend. Please understand that
> the newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals to
> answer your systems and applications questions. Your understanding is
> greatly appreciated!
>
> From your description, I understand the issue to be: you receive event 29
> regarding w32time. If I have misunderstood your concerns, please do not
> hesitate to let me know.
>
> Based on my experience, I would like to suggest you try the following
> suggestions:
>
> A. Make sure the Windows Time service is enabled and started
> ------------------------
> The Windows Time service will be disabled by CEICW when you have a PPPoE
> connection which is treated as a non-stable connection. I suggest you click
> Start->Run, type "services.msc" (without the quotes) and click OK. When the
> Services snap-in opens, check to make sure the Windows Time service is
> started and its startup type is set to "Automatic".
>
> B: Make sure ISA is allowing the NTP traffic on UDP port 123 (if you have
> ISA installed)
> ------------------------
> If you have ISA server 2000 installed on the SBS 2003 server, please
> perform the following steps to configure ISA:
>
> 1. In the ISA Server management tool, expand the management nodes that are
> beneath your server name.
>
> 2. Expand the Access Policy branch to view the list of access policies.
>
> 3. Right-click IP Packet Filters, point to New, and then click Filter to
> start the New IP Packet Filter Wizard.
>
> 4. Type a descriptive name for the filter (such as "SNTP Allow Filter"
> (without the quotation marks)), and then click Next.
>
> 5. Click Allow packet transmission as the Filter Mode, and then click Next.
>
> 6. Click Custom as the filter type, and then click Next.
>
> 7. On the Filter Settings page, click UDP for the IP protocol, click "Send
> receive" for the direction, "All ports" as the local port, click "Fixed
> port" as the remote port, use port 123 as the remote port number, and then
> click Next.
>
> 8. Keep the default settings by clicking Next through the next two wizard
> pages, and then click Finish at the Completing The New IP Packet Filter
> Wizard page.
>
> 9. Go to Monitoring\Services and restart the Firewall service. Check if the
> issue disappears.
>
> For more info, see:
>
> 323621 How To Configure the Simple Network Time Protocol (SNTP) on ISA
> Server
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=323621
>
> 887355 The server cannot synchronize with an external time source after you
> run the Configure E-mail and Internet Connection Wizard on Windows Small
> Business Server 2003
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;887355
>
> If it is ISA 2004, open the ISA management console, go to Firewall Policy,
> right click the "SBS Local Host Access Rule" in the right panel, and select
> Properties. Go to Protocols tab to make sure NTP (UDP) is added.
>
> C. Re-configure the Windows Time service
> ------------------------
> Open a command prompt and run the following commands to re-configure the
> time service to sync time with time.nist.gov:
>
> w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:time.nist.gov,0x8 /syncfromflags:MANUAL
>
> w32tm /config /update
>
> net stop w32time
>
> net start w32time
>
> D. Make sure the hardware router or firewall is allowing the traffic
> ------------------------
> Check if you have a hardware router/firewall in front of your SBS server,
> if so, please open Registry Editor (regedit), go to
> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\Parameters\Type
> , change the value data from whatever to Nt5DS and restart the W32Time
> service. Maue sure the service's startup type is till set to automatic.
>
> For more info:
>
> 816042 How to configure the Windows Time service on a Windows Server
> 2003-based
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=816042
>
> You can also try other time sources.
>
> 262680 A List of the Simple Network Time Protocol Time Servers That Are
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=262680
>
> E. Ask and apply the hot fix 830092
> ------------------------
> Please contact Microsoft PSS to obtain and install the following hot fix:
>
> 830092 W32Time frequently logs Event ID 50 and poor time synchronization
> occurs
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=830092
>
> I appreciate your time and look forward to hearing from you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Crina Li (MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
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From: "Crina Li" on 24 Oct 2006 03:24
Hi Russell,

Thanks for your update.

Have you tried other time sources?

262680 A List of the Simple Network Time Protocol Time Servers That Are
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=262680

Also please refer to the following KB article to reconfigure the Windows
Time service to see how thing goes:

816042 How to configure the Windows Time service on a Windows Server
2003-based
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=816042

307897 How To Synchronize the Time with the Windows Time Service in Windows
XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=307897

Thanks for your time and I look forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Crina Li (MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

=====================================================
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|
| Hi Crina. Thanks for your time and advice.
|
| A. Time Service enabled and started. Yes - verified initialli and after
D.
| below.
|
| B. IS is not installed. Control Panel->Add/Remove programs. The list
| produced does not include "Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration
| Server", so ISA is not present.
|
| C. Re-Configure. Did that and all commands completed successfully. Still
| getting error ID 29 (wait 5 min after the action and the errro shows
again on
| the System Event Viewer)
|
| E. Hot fix 830092. THis was installed months ago and shows up in the
Control
| Panel->add/Remove programs list.
|
| D. H/W router/firewall.
| We have an adsl router, the gateway.
| The Type value was NTP. Changing it to Nt5DS had no effect.
|
| So I have no progress.
| Any other suggestions?
|
| Kind regards
| Russell
|
|
| ""Crina Li"" wrote:
|
| > Hi Russell,
| >
| > Thank you for posting in SBS newsgroup.
| >
| > I am sorry for the delayed response due to weekend. Please understand
that
| > the newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals
to
| > answer your systems and applications questions. Your understanding is
| > greatly appreciated!
| >
| > From your description, I understand the issue to be: you receive event
29
| > regarding w32time. If I have misunderstood your concerns, please do not
| > hesitate to let me know.
| >
| > Based on my experience, I would like to suggest you try the following
| > suggestions:
| >
| > A. Make sure the Windows Time service is enabled and started
| > ------------------------
| > The Windows Time service will be disabled by CEICW when you have a
PPPoE
| > connection which is treated as a non-stable connection. I suggest you
click
| > Start->Run, type "services.msc" (without the quotes) and click OK. When
the
| > Services snap-in opens, check to make sure the Windows Time service is
| > started and its startup type is set to "Automatic".
| >
| > B: Make sure ISA is allowing the NTP traffic on UDP port 123 (if you
have
| > ISA installed)
| > ------------------------
| > If you have ISA server 2000 installed on the SBS 2003 server, please
| > perform the following steps to configure ISA:
| >
| > 1. In the ISA Server management tool, expand the management nodes that
are
| > beneath your server name.
| >
| > 2. Expand the Access Policy branch to view the list of access policies.
| >
| > 3. Right-click IP Packet Filters, point to New, and then click Filter
to
| > start the New IP Packet Filter Wizard.
| >
| > 4. Type a descriptive name for the filter (such as "SNTP Allow Filter"
| > (without the quotation marks)), and then click Next.
| >
| > 5. Click Allow packet transmission as the Filter Mode, and then click
Next.
| >
| > 6. Click Custom as the filter type, and then click Next.
| >
| > 7. On the Filter Settings page, click UDP for the IP protocol, click
"Send
| > receive" for the direction, "All ports" as the local port, click "Fixed
| > port" as the remote port, use port 123 as the remote port number, and
then
| > click Next.
| >
| > 8. Keep the default settings by clicking Next through the next two
wizard
| > pages, and then click Finish at the Completing The New IP Packet Filter
From: Russell3 on 24 Oct 2006 04:38
Hello Crina

I have tried other time servers. No change to the problem. I have also trie
other time servers using Atomic Clock Sync v2.7.0.3 and all work OK with this
program.

I'lll read
> 816042 How to configure the Windows Time service on a Windows Server
> 2003-based
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=816042
>
> 307897 How To Synchronize the Time with the Windows Time Service in Windows
> XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=307897

Tomorow.

Thanks for staying with me on this.
Russell


""Crina Li"" wrote:

> Hi Russell,
>
> Thanks for your update.
>
> Have you tried other time sources?
>
> 262680 A List of the Simple Network Time Protocol Time Servers That Are
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=262680
>
> Also please refer to the following KB article to reconfigure the Windows
> Time service to see how thing goes:
>
> 816042 How to configure the Windows Time service on a Windows Server
> 2003-based
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=816042
>
> 307897 How To Synchronize the Time with the Windows Time Service in Windows
> XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=307897
>
> Thanks for your time and I look forward to hearing from you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Crina Li (MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> =====================================================
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
> You can locate the newsgroup here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
>
> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
> issue.
>
> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
>
> =====================================================
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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> |
> | Hi Crina. Thanks for your time and advice.
> |
> | A. Time Service enabled and started. Yes - verified initialli and after
> D.
> | below.
> |
> | B. IS is not installed. Control Panel->Add/Remove programs. The list
> | produced does not include "Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration
> | Server", so ISA is not present.
> |
> | C. Re-Configure. Did that and all commands completed successfully. Still
> | getting error ID 29 (wait 5 min after the action and the errro shows
> again on
> | the System Event Viewer)
> |
> | E. Hot fix 830092. THis was installed months ago and shows up in the
> Control
> | Panel->add/Remove programs list.
> |
> | D. H/W router/firewall.
> | We have an adsl router, the gateway.
> | The Type value was NTP. Changing it to Nt5DS had no effect.
> |
> | So I have no progress.
> | Any other suggestions?
> |
> | Kind regards
> | Russell
> |
> |
> | ""Crina Li"" wrote:
> |
> | > Hi Russell,
> | >
> | > Thank you for posting in SBS newsgroup.
> | >
> | > I am sorry for the delayed response due to weekend. Please understand
> that
> | > the newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals
> to
> | > answer your systems and applications questions. Your understanding is
> | > greatly appreciated!
> | >
> | > From your description, I understand the issue to be: you receive event
> 29
> | > regarding w32time. If I have misunderstood your concerns, please do not
> | > hesitate to let me know.
> | >
> | > Based on my experience, I would like to suggest you try the following
> | > suggestions:
> | >
> | > A. Make sure the Windows Time service is enabled and started
> | > ------------------------
> | > The Windows Time service will be disabled by CEICW when you have a
> PPPoE
> | > connection which is treated as a non-stable connection. I suggest you
> click
> | > Start->Run, type "services.msc" (without the quotes) and click OK. When
> the
> | > Services snap-in opens, check to make sure the Windows Time service is
> | > started and its startup type is set to "Automatic".
> | >
> | > B: Make sure ISA is allowing the NTP traffic on UDP port 123 (if you
> have
> | > ISA installed)
> | > ------------------------
> | > If you have ISA server 2000 installed on the SBS 2003 server, please
> | > perform the following steps to configure ISA:
> | >
> | > 1. In the ISA Server management tool, expand the management nodes that
> are
> | > beneath your server name.
> | >
> | > 2. Expand the Access Policy branch to view the list of access policies.
>
From: Russell3 on 24 Oct 2006 17:44
Hello Crina
I tried other time sources - no change.
My setup conforms in all ways to the a,...,h guidelines in
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=816042

In htis article the troubleshooting hints are not applicable - that is the
suggestions are not applicable. There is mention of turning on the Windows
Time service debug log. Where is this described? THis sems like my next step.

Thanks
Russell

""Crina Li"" wrote:

> Hi Russell,
>
> Thanks for your update.
>
> Have you tried other time sources?
>
> 262680 A List of the Simple Network Time Protocol Time Servers That Are
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=262680
>
> Also please refer to the following KB article to reconfigure the Windows
> Time service to see how thing goes:
>
> 816042 How to configure the Windows Time service on a Windows Server
> 2003-based
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=816042
>
> 307897 How To Synchronize the Time with the Windows Time Service in Windows
> XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=307897
>
> Thanks for your time and I look forward to hearing from you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Crina Li (MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> =====================================================
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
> You can locate the newsgroup here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx
>
> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
> issue.
>
> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
>
> =====================================================
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> --------------------
> | Thread-Topic: w32time Event ID 29
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> <Nbuyyen9GHA.1472(a)TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl>
> | Subject: RE: w32time Event ID 29
> | Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 13:18:02 -0700
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> | X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> |
> | Hi Crina. Thanks for your time and advice.
> |
> | A. Time Service enabled and started. Yes - verified initialli and after
> D.
> | below.
> |
> | B. IS is not installed. Control Panel->Add/Remove programs. The list
> | produced does not include "Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration
> | Server", so ISA is not present.
> |
> | C. Re-Configure. Did that and all commands completed successfully. Still
> | getting error ID 29 (wait 5 min after the action and the errro shows
> again on
> | the System Event Viewer)
> |
> | E. Hot fix 830092. THis was installed months ago and shows up in the
> Control
> | Panel->add/Remove programs list.
> |
> | D. H/W router/firewall.
> | We have an adsl router, the gateway.
> | The Type value was NTP. Changing it to Nt5DS had no effect.
> |
> | So I have no progress.
> | Any other suggestions?
> |
> | Kind regards
> | Russell
> |
> |
> | ""Crina Li"" wrote:
> |
> | > Hi Russell,
> | >
> | > Thank you for posting in SBS newsgroup.
> | >
> | > I am sorry for the delayed response due to weekend. Please understand
> that
> | > the newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals
> to
> | > answer your systems and applications questions. Your understanding is
> | > greatly appreciated!
> | >
> | > From your description, I understand the issue to be: you receive event
> 29
> | > regarding w32time. If I have misunderstood your concerns, please do not
> | > hesitate to let me know.
> | >
> | > Based on my experience, I would like to suggest you try the following
> | > suggestions:
> | >
> | > A. Make sure the Windows Time service is enabled and started
> | > ------------------------
> | > The Windows Time service will be disabled by CEICW when you have a
> PPPoE
> | > connection which is treated as a non-stable connection. I suggest you
> click
> | > Start->Run, type "services.msc" (without the quotes) and click OK. When
> the
> | > Services snap-in opens, check to make sure the Windows Time service is
> | > started and its startup type is set to "Automatic".
> | >
> | > B: Make sure ISA is allowing the NTP traffic on UDP port 123 (if you
> have
> | > ISA installed)
> | > ------------------------
> | > If you have ISA server 2000 installed on the SBS 2003 server, please
> | > perform the following steps to configure ISA:
> | >
> | > 1. In the ISA Server management tool, expand the management nodes that
> are
> | > beneath your server name.
> | >
> | > 2. Expand the Access Policy branch to view the list of access policies.
> | >
> | > 3. Right-click IP Packet Filters, point to New, and then click Filter
> to
> | > start the New
From: chace zhang on 26 Oct 2006 06:57
Hi,

Thank you for your update.

At present, Crina is not in the office, I will work with you on this issue.

First, please confirm does this issue occur on SBS Server or on clients?

Based on my experience, Since SBS Server is the root domain, you should
configure the PDC operations master(SBS Server) to gather the time from an
external source.

Windows-based computers use the following hierarchy by default:

- All client desktop computers nominate the authenticating domain
controller as their in-bound time partner.

- All member servers follow the same process as client desktop computers.

- Domain controllers may nominate the primary domain controller (PDC)
operations master (root of the forest) as their in-bound time partner but
may use a parent domain controller based on stratum numbering.

- All PDC operations masters follow the hierarchy of domains in the
selection of their in-bound time partner.

Following this hierarchy, the SBS Server (PDC operations maste)r at the
root of the forest becomes authoritative for the organization. Please
review the following article for more related informaton:

216734 How to Configure an Authoritative Time Server in Windows 2000
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=216734

You may try the steps below to synchronize an internal time source with an
external time source on SBS Server.

1. Open a Command Prompt.

2. Type the following, where PeerList is a comma - separated list of DNS
names or Internet protocol (IP) addresses for the desired time sources:

w32tm /config /manualpeerlist:<time source>,0x8 /syncfromflags:MANUAL

For example: w32tm /config /manualpeerlist: ntp.cs.mu.OZ.AU,0x8
/syncfromflags:MANUAL

w32tm /config /update


4. Check the Event Log. If the computer cannot reach the servers, the
procedure fails and an entry is written to the Event Log.

The most common use of this procedure is to synchronize the internal
network's authoritative time source with a very precise external time
source.

In many cases, it may not be necessary to have all servers times
synchronized with an external source, as long as they are synchronized with
the same internal source.

There are several SNTP time servers run by the New Zealand time that are
satisfactory for this function, for example:
Melbourne Australia: The University of Melbourne
128.250.36.2: ntp.cs.mu.OZ.AU


Hamilton, New Zealand: The University of Waikato
truechimer.waikato.ac.nz; truechimer1.waikato.ac.nz;
truechimer2.waikato.ac.nz; truechimer3.waikato.ac.nz

The NTP uses port 123 so this port must be opened on a firewall or router
to ensure proper communication with the NTP server.

I have included the following article for your reference:

262680 A List of the Simple Network Time Protocol Time Servers That Are
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=262680




The "net time /query" query the registry key in

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\W32Time\Parameters


If you have any questions, please feel free to let me know.


Best Regards,

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| Hello Crina
| I tried other time sources - no change.
| My setup conforms in all ways to the a,...,h guidelines in
| > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=816042
|
| In htis article the troubleshooting hints are not applicable - that is
the
| suggestions are not applicable. There is mention of turning on the
Windows
| Time service debug log. Where is this described? THis sems like my next
step.
|
| Thanks
| Russell
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| ""Crina Li"" wrote:
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| > Hi Russell,
| >
| > Thanks for your update.
| >
| > Have you tried other time sources?
| >
| > 262680 A List of the Simple Network Time Protocol Time Servers That Are
| > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=262680
| >
| > Also please refer to the following KB article to
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