From: Lord Kelvan on
On Jan 31, 2:06 pm, "me here" <gloaming_ag...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Lord Kelvan wrote:
> > hi i have just set up wireless in or place and what stumps me is that
> > my connection is 1/3 the speed that it is when it is connected via a
> > wire.  my normal connection rate is ~16000kbps but it only transmits
> > ~5000kbps.  this does not matter how far the computer is away from the
> > router.  i am using a usb wireless transmitter my router is a di-624.
> > my encryption is WEP 128bit
>
> > please help.
>
> > Regards
> > Kelvan
>
> Maybe the USB adapter is not getting sufficient DC power from the
> connector.
>
> Try running it from a powered hub.
>
> A bad USB extension cable can also cause problems.
>
> If the supplied power is not sufficient, the adapter speed will fall
> back to USB1.

tryed all different cables and even plugging it into the port
directally still no difference

as fior signal strength my strength at the moment is 54Mbps and the
only other wireless transmitter is the cordless phone but that is on
the 1.8GHz frequency and the router is on 2.4

just ran a dsl speed report and this is the results if that helps

down 399kbps
up 799kbps

normally when it is wired i get if the tester can manage to test it
properly i get

~15000kbps down and the same as the wireless for up.

what dosnt make sence to me is the up signal is very powerful but the
down is weak.

my data rate on my modem is

down 15989 kbps
up 944 kbps

and i achieve thoes rates on a wired connection
From: me here on
Lord Kelvan wrote:

> On Jan 31, 2:06�pm, "me here" <gloaming_ag...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Lord Kelvan wrote:
> > > hi i have just set up wireless in or place and what stumps me is
> > > that my connection is 1/3 the speed that it is when it is
> > > connected via a wire. �my normal connection rate is ~16000kbps
> > > but it only transmits ~5000kbps. �this does not matter how far
> > > the computer is away from the router. �i am using a usb wireless
> > > transmitter my router is a di-624. my encryption is WEP 128bit
> >
> > > please help.
> >
> > > Regards
> > > Kelvan
> >
> > Maybe the USB adapter is not getting sufficient DC power from the
> > connector.
> >
> > Try running it from a powered hub.
> >
> > A bad USB extension cable can also cause problems.
> >
> > If the supplied power is not sufficient, the adapter speed will fall
> > back to USB1.
>
> tryed all different cables and even plugging it into the port
> directally still no difference
>
> as fior signal strength my strength at the moment is 54Mbps and the
> only other wireless transmitter is the cordless phone but that is on
> the 1.8GHz frequency and the router is on 2.4
>
> just ran a dsl speed report and this is the results if that helps
>
> down 399kbps
> up 799kbps
>
> normally when it is wired i get if the tester can manage to test it
> properly i get
>
> ~15000kbps down and the same as the wireless for up.
>
> what dosnt make sence to me is the up signal is very powerful but the
> down is weak.
>
> my data rate on my modem is
>
> down 15989 kbps
> up 944 kbps
>
> and i achieve thoes rates on a wired connection

What brand of USB adapter and chipset?

Are you using windows zero config nwetwork management for the adapter?
From: Lord Kelvan on
On Jan 31, 5:46 pm, "me here" <gloaming_ag...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Lord Kelvan wrote:
> > On Jan 31, 2:06 pm, "me here" <gloaming_ag...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Lord Kelvan wrote:
> > > > hi i have just set up wireless in or place and what stumps me is
> > > > that my connection is 1/3 the speed that it is when it is
> > > > connected via a wire. my normal connection rate is ~16000kbps
> > > > but it only transmits ~5000kbps. this does not matter how far
> > > > the computer is away from the router. i am using a usb wireless
> > > > transmitter my router is a di-624.  my encryption is WEP 128bit
>
> > > > please help.
>
> > > > Regards
> > > > Kelvan
>
> > > Maybe the USB adapter is not getting sufficient DC power from the
> > > connector.
>
> > > Try running it from a powered hub.
>
> > > A bad USB extension cable can also cause problems.
>
> > > If the supplied power is not sufficient, the adapter speed will fall
> > > back to USB1.
>
> > tryed all different cables and even plugging it into the port
> > directally still no difference
>
> > as fior signal strength my strength at the moment is 54Mbps and the
> > only other wireless transmitter is the cordless phone but that is on
> > the 1.8GHz frequency and the router is on 2.4
>
> > just ran a dsl speed report and this is the results if that helps
>
> > down 399kbps
> > up 799kbps
>
> > normally when it is wired i get if the tester can manage to test it
> > properly i get
>
> > ~15000kbps down and the same as the wireless for up.
>
> > what dosnt make sence to me is the up signal is very powerful but the
> > down is weak.
>
> > my data rate on my modem is
>
> > down 15989 kbps
> > up  944 kbps
>
> > and i achieve thoes rates on a wired connection
>
> What brand of USB adapter and chipset?
>
> Are you using windows zero config nwetwork management for the adapter?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

i am using an asus wl-167g usb adaptor. one of the few that works with
windows xp sp3

i am using asus's program for the connection but it makes no
difference which one i use for the speed

as for the chip set i am unsure which chip set you are referring to?

From: me here on
Lord Kelvan wrote:

> On Jan 31, 5:46�pm, "me here" <gloaming_ag...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Lord Kelvan wrote:
> > > On Jan 31, 2:06 pm, "me here" <gloaming_ag...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Lord Kelvan wrote:
> > > > > hi i have just set up wireless in or place and what stumps me
> > > > > is that my connection is 1/3 the speed that it is when it is
> > > > > connected via a wire. my normal connection rate is ~16000kbps
> > > > > but it only transmits ~5000kbps. this does not matter how far
> > > > > the computer is away from the router. i am using a usb
> > > > > wireless transmitter my router is a di-624. �my encryption is
> > > > > WEP 128bit
> >
> > > > > please help.
> >
> > > > > Regards
> > > > > Kelvan
> >
> > > > Maybe the USB adapter is not getting sufficient DC power from
> > > > the connector.
> >
> > > > Try running it from a powered hub.
> >
> > > > A bad USB extension cable can also cause problems.
> >
> > > > If the supplied power is not sufficient, the adapter speed will
> > > > fall back to USB1.
> >
> > > tryed all different cables and even plugging it into the port
> > > directally still no difference
> >
> > > as fior signal strength my strength at the moment is 54Mbps and
> > > the only other wireless transmitter is the cordless phone but
> > > that is on the 1.8GHz frequency and the router is on 2.4
> >
> > > just ran a dsl speed report and this is the results if that helps
> >
> > > down 399kbps
> > > up 799kbps
> >
> > > normally when it is wired i get if the tester can manage to test
> > > it properly i get
> >
> > > ~15000kbps down and the same as the wireless for up.
> >
> > > what dosnt make sence to me is the up signal is very powerful but
> > > the down is weak.
> >
> > > my data rate on my modem is
> >
> > > down 15989 kbps
> > > up �944 kbps
> >
> > > and i achieve thoes rates on a wired connection
> >
> > What brand of USB adapter and chipset?
> >
> > Are you using windows zero config nwetwork management for the
> > adapter?- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> i am using an asus wl-167g usb adaptor. one of the few that works with
> windows xp sp3
>
> i am using asus's program for the connection but it makes no
> difference which one i use for the speed
>

> as for the chip set i am unsure which chip set you are referring to?


I wasn't aware of any problems with SP3 and XP with wifi adapters.

I use Realtek chipset USB adapters and they work fine with SP3 under XP.

The Asus wl-167g USB adapters use the Ralink chipset.

The Ralink driver should have it's own wifi management program.

It's always best to use the one supplied with the adapter, rather than
the Windows zero configuration option.

Sounds like you have that covered.

From: Jeff Liebermann on
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 23:51:10 -0800 (PST), Lord Kelvan
<the_iddiot(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>> > what dosnt make sence to me is the up signal is very powerful but the
>> > down is weak.

How are you measuring how "powerful" these are? Signal strength? Test
equipment? Netstumbler? Kismet?

>i am using an asus wl-167g usb adaptor. one of the few that works with
>windows xp sp3

Most current USB adapters I've tried work with XP SP3. I'm not sure
where you obtained the idea that this is the only one that works. Can
I presume that you've attempted to use other USB adapters? If so, are
the drivers for those adapters still installed on your unspecified
model computer? If this is the case, you might consider removing them
using the control panel, add-remove, as they are probably fighting
each other.

You mention elsewhere that your router is a Dlink DI-624. (In the
future, it would be helpful if you would disclose what you're doing
and what equipment you have to play with). I'm quite familiar with
this router, which has it's collection of problem.
1. Is it a DI-624 or DI-624+ ??
2. Is it a hardware revision A, B, C, D, or E ?? They're all very
different hardware.
3. Do you have the latest firmware installed? Check on the Dlink web
pile.
4. Why are you using WEP? If it's because the firmware only supports
WEP, you have a very old version. I suggest WPA or WPA2 and a more
useful alternative.

>i am using asus's program for the connection but it makes no
>difference which one i use for the speed

I'm not familiar with Asus's program. Does it have a name or
preferably a URL to see what it does. It's possible that you're
measuring the wireless connection rate, instead of the thruput. I
can't tell without looking at the program.

You might be expecting a bit much from the DI-624. Several of the
early models were problematic. I don't think I've ever seen one move
data at much over about 15Mbits/sec. Unfortunately, the DI-624 is no
longer listed on the benchmark tables at:
<http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/index.php?option=com_wireless&Itemid=&chart=29>
Please note the WIDE range of measured thruput (which rarely
corresponds to advertised claims). Frankly, it's an old router, which
might require replacement in order to obtain full speeds.

One clue might be to obtain your wireless connection speed. In order
to obtain 16Mbits/sec thruput, you will need to have at least a solid
and stable 32MBite/sec wireless connection. Your Asus connection
utility, Netstumbler, or WirelessMon, or other monitoring utility
should show this speed. My guess(tm) is that if you're only getting
5Mbit/sec, your unspecified model computah is probably stuck in
802.11b mode, probably because of excessive interference, or more
likely because you're using a USB 1.1 port instead of USB 2.0.

If you want to nail down the exact cause, it's often best to diagnose
by replacement. The first step is to take your cable modem out of the
picture. Find another computer, plug it into one of the LAN ports on
the DI-624, and fire up iPerf or preferably Jperf in server mode.
Then, run the Jperf on the client computer to obtain thruput number
for only the wireless link.
<http://openmaniak.com/iperf.php>
<http://code.google.com/p/xjperf/>
<http://sourceforge.net/projects/iperf/files/>
Be sure to run an ethernet to ethernet benchmark, as well as the usual
ethernet to wireless benchmark, to make sure that the computers are
faster than the wireless link.


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