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From: James on 26 Apr 2010 05:27 "Steve Wyles" <steve(a)inhouse.co.uk> wrote in message news:83jhcsFnp7U1(a)mid.individual.net... > On 25/04/2010 00:34, James wrote: > > "JL"<newsaccount(a)mail2web.com> wrote in message > > news:4136db1c-99ba-4a1c-9163-9aa1c62c6d2f(a)12g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... > > I've had a S2 since last July and NEVER had it switch off on me > randomly. It's on 24/7 and I also work in a building where in many > places there is a poor or no signal (from any network). > > Steve > Lucky You ! : ))
From: James on 26 Apr 2010 05:41 "Steve Wyles" <steve(a)inhouse.co.uk> wrote in message news:83jhcsFnp7U1(a)mid.individual.net... > On 25/04/2010 00:34, James wrote: > > "JL"<newsaccount(a)mail2web.com> wrote in message > > news:4136db1c-99ba-4a1c-9163-9aa1c62c6d2f(a)12g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... > > > >> I liked the look of their SIM only contracts and the SIM Zero but > >> without the handover it would be rather annoying! > > > > Still a problem, I lose quite a few calls do to them being dropped. > > I still carry an Orange PAYG mobile with me for areas where the network is > > poor. > > And what about the Skypephone S2? Riddled with problems, not to mention the > > random switching off of the phone and they wont accept it as being a issue. > > Its a BIG issue when your mobile phone switches off randomly and you dont > > realise its gone off (AGAIN). > > I've had a S2 since last July and NEVER had it switch off on me > randomly. It's on 24/7 and I also work in a building where in many > places there is a poor or no signal (from any network). > > Steve To be honest I dont really trust 3 at all with the switching. I have been with Orange PAYG since 1996 and had the same number (SIM) since then. I know I can trust Orange for voice calls and I know the signals are good everywhere that I travel. Having been with Ornage that long, you get to know that the network is reliable and can be trusted. The 3 network is good but not anywhere near as good as Orange for voice calls. And this switching issue is a real pain. If their network was as good as Orange, they wouldn't need to switch to Orange in the first place. I tend to use the S2 for data only. At home I get an excellent signal from 3, but I live in between two masts that are both fairly close by. The S2 switching off is also a real pain, and even more of a pain is the fact that 3 wont recognise that there is an issue with the S2, but there obviously is. I have three of them here (they were all purchased around the same time for family members and they all switch off randomly. A seach of the net also highlights that many others have the same problem too.
From: Steve Terry on 26 Apr 2010 12:32 "James" <446554754(a)66776978968.net> wrote in message news:83l5dhFeudU1(a)mid.individual.net... > "Steve Wyles" <steve(a)inhouse.co.uk> wrote in message > news:83jhcsFnp7U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> On 25/04/2010 00:34, James wrote: >> > "JL"<newsaccount(a)mail2web.com> wrote in message >> > news:4136db1c-99ba-4a1c-9163-9aa1c62c6d2f(a)12g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... <snip> > >> I've had a S2 since last July and NEVER had it switch off on me >> randomly. It's on 24/7 and I also work in a building where in many >> places there is a poor or no signal (from any network). >> Steve > > To be honest I dont really trust 3 at all with the switching. I have been > with Orange PAYG since 1996 and had the same number (SIM) since then. > I hope it's not the same sim as then you won't have access to Orange 3g > > I know I can trust Orange for voice calls and I know the signals are good > everywhere that I travel. Having been with Ornage that long, you get to > know that the network is reliable and can be trusted. The 3 network is > good > but not anywhere near as good as Orange for voice calls. And this > switching > issue is a real pain. If their network was as good as Orange, they > wouldn't need to switch to Orange in the first place. > Covering the country with only 2.1Ghz cells would require a lot more cells than Orange 2g have 3g to 2g handover can also be a handset problem, some phones aren't as good at it as they should be > > I tend to use the S2 for data only. At home I get an excellent signal > from 3, but I live in between two masts that are both fairly close by. > > The S2 switching off is also a real pain, and even more of a pain is the > fact that 3 wont recognise that there is an issue with the S2, but there > obviously is. I have three of them here (they were all purchased around > the same time for family members and they all switch off randomly. > A search of the net also highlights that many others have the same problem > too. > You could spend more money on more up market phones, like the ones Orange might use. > Have you changed the S2 batteries? It could be they are all from a batch with bad ones? Steve Terry -- Get a free Three 3pay Sim with �2 bonus after �10 top up http://freeagent.three.co.uk/stand/view/id/5276
From: James on 26 Apr 2010 15:11 "Steve Terry" <gfourwwk(a)tesco.net> wrote in message news:hr4f7t$3sk$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > I hope it's not the same sim as then you won't have access to Orange 3g Yes same SIM since 1996. What good would Orange 3G be to me at their rip off data prices? Am I missing a good deal on Orange that I dont know about? If they did a good data deal (as good as 3, I would never have looked elsewhere for a good deal) I don't have a contract and dont want one either. Thats why I chose 3 for data. Is there any point in changing the Orange SIM for a new one? Any advantages, seeing as their data rates are so expensive? How would I get a new one anyway, and keep the same number? > Covering the country with only 2.1Ghz cells would require a lot more > cells than Orange 2g have I appreciate the higher frequencies can be more difficult to saturate and give good coverage. Good point. Luckily at home I have very strong HSDPA data access from 3, so I am happy with that. > > 3g to 2g handover can also be a handset problem, some phones aren't as > good at it as they should be I agree, but why would 3 introduce a phone like the S2 that is poor at switching? Seems odd to me that they didn't make sure it could handle the network switching properly before rolling it out into mass production and then pusing it as a phone for use on their network. > You could spend more money on more up market phones, > like the ones Orange might use. Recommendations please Steve. I want everything the S2 can do and more. Including acting as a USB / Bluetooth modem for the PC and all the applications, MSN, Skype, Facebook, Twitter, Googlemail, POP3 email and ideally a bigger screen. > > > Have you changed the S2 batteries? > It could be they are all from a batch with bad ones? No not changed the batteries. But it seems hard to believe that the batteries are at fault, cos when it stays on, it can sometimes stay on for 7 days and nights without a charge. I suspect the switching off is linked to the switching network issue, cos it happens far more often if I am moving around different cells (ie, in the car). If the phone is at home it regularly stays switched on all the time. Then when I go out and take it with me, the phone switches off randomly. You know what really pee's me off Steve, is that 3 wont admit there is an issue with the S2 when there obviously is an issue. Where can I find replacement batteries for the S2? I would be happy to try one, in my handset, just to discount or prove it was the battery. Never been able to find any. > > Steve Terry > -- > Get a free Three 3pay Sim with �2 bonus after �10 top up > http://freeagent.three.co.uk/stand/view/id/5276 > > > >
From: Steve Terry on 26 Apr 2010 17:52
"James" <446554754(a)66776978968.net> wrote in message news:83m6qsF322U1(a)mid.individual.net... > "Steve Terry" <gfourwwk(a)tesco.net> wrote in message > news:hr4f7t$3sk$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > >> I hope it's not the same sim as then you won't have access to Orange 3g > > Yes same SIM since 1996. What good would Orange 3G be to me at their rip > off data prices? Am I missing a good deal on Orange that I dont know > about? > If they did a good data deal (as good as 3, I would never have looked > elsewhere for a good deal) I don't have a contract and dont want one > either. Thats why I chose 3 for data. > > Is there any point in changing the Orange SIM for a new one? Any > advantages, seeing as their data rates are so expensive? > You are missing out on the coverage and capacity of all the Orange 3g cells > > How would I get a new one anyway, and keep the same number? > That's the difficult bit, an upgrade to an Orange 3g phone would get you a new 3g Sim. Porting out and into a new sim seems the only other way, the latest Orange payg sims are 3g. Orange are sadly anal about issuing new 3g sims > >> Covering the country with only 2.1Ghz cells would require a lot more >> cells than Orange 2g have > > I appreciate the higher frequencies can be more difficult to saturate and > give good coverage. Good point. Luckily at home I have very strong HSDPA > data access from 3, so I am happy with that. > >> 3g to 2g handover can also be a handset problem, some phones aren't as >> good at it as they should be > > I agree, but why would 3 introduce a phone like the S2 that is poor at > switching? Seems odd to me that they didn't make sure it could handle the > network switching properly before rolling it out into mass production and > then pusing it as a phone for use on their network. > I don't find it poor at switching, the way they hang on to Skype is amazing far better than my Nokia 6120c. Maybe there is a bad batch of S2? > >> You could spend more money on more up market phones, >> like the ones Orange might use. > > Recommendations please Steve. I want everything the S2 can do and more. > Including acting as a USB / Bluetooth modem for the PC and all the > applications, MSN, Skype, Facebook, Twitter, Googlemail, POP3 email and > ideally a bigger screen. > I assume we are talking about 3pay here? How much have you to spend, you have a tall order. >> >> Have you changed the S2 batteries? >> It could be they are all from a batch with bad ones? > > No not changed the batteries. But it seems hard to believe that the > batteries are at fault, cos when it stays on, it can sometimes stay on for > 7 > days and nights without a charge. I suspect the switching off is linked > to > the switching network issue, cos it happens far more often if I am moving > around different cells (ie, in the car). If the phone is at home it > regularly stays switched on all the time. Then when I go out and take it > with me, the phone switches off randomly. You know what really pee's me > off > Steve, is that 3 wont admit there is an issue with the S2 when there > obviously is an issue. > Maybe a bad batch? 3 won't be the first to deny a handset problem It's not one i've seen and i've had four S2's > > Where can I find replacement batteries for the S2? I would be happy to > try > one, in my handset, just to discount or prove it was the battery. Never > been able to find any. > > EBay dealers, search for: AMOI AH-02 battery Around 3 to 4 quid Steve Terry -- Get a free Three 3pay Sim with �2 bonus after �10 top up http://freeagent.three.co.uk/stand/view/id/5276 |