89C51ED2
in [Design]
|
From: Michael A. Terrell on 12 Sep 2008 18:50 Rich Grise wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:34:28 +0100, Eeyore wrote: > > krw wrote: > >> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > >> > > >> > Ir runs under DOS. > >> > >> ...assuming DOS still runs. You do like to take risks! > > > > What a silly comment. DOS is the only stable product ever to come from Microsoft. > > Actually, it didn't come from Microsoft. It came from Digital Reasearch; M$ > just brokered the usurious deal with IBM that gave us the 8088 PC and all > the rest. No it didn't. Microsoft bought what they sold as DOS from Seattle Computer Products: http://www.patersontech.com/Dos/Byte/History.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS-DOS -- http://improve-usenet.org/index.html aioe.org, Goggle Groups, and Web TV users must request to be white listed, or I will not see your messages. If you have broadband, your ISP may have a NNTP news server included in your account: http://www.usenettools.net/ISP.htm There are two kinds of people on this earth: The crazy, and the insane. The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.
From: donald on 12 Sep 2008 21:02 krw wrote: > In article <_sOdnQIvUtt3SlfVnZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d(a)comcast.com>, > donald(a)notinmyinbox.com says... >> Rich Grise wrote: >>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2008 09:34:28 +0100, Eeyore wrote: >>>> krw wrote: >>>>> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... >>>>>> Ir runs under DOS. >>>>> ...assuming DOS still runs. You do like to take risks! >>>> What a silly comment. DOS is the only stable product ever to come from Microsoft. >>> Actually, it didn't come from Microsoft. It came from Digital Reasearch; M$ >>> just brokered the usurious deal with IBM that gave us the 8088 PC and all >>> the rest. >>> >>> Cheers! >>> Rich >>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dos >> >> Check the dates of MS/PC-DOS and DR-DOS. > > PC-DOS was from IBM. MS-DOS from M$. > > From link above: "History The original 1981 arrangement between IBM and Microsoft was that _Microsoft_would_provide_ the base product and that both firms would work on developing different parts of it into a more powerful and robust system, and then share the resultant code. MS-DOS and PC-DOS were to be marketed separately: IBM selling to itself for the IBM PC, and Microsoft selling to the open market. However, at no time did IBM acquire the ownership of the source code of the operating system for its own PCs." donald
From: Gordon S. Hlavenka on 12 Sep 2008 22:28 krw wrote: > You got a USB driver for DOS? http://www.bootdisk.com/usb.htm -- Gordon S. Hlavenka Join the Revolution at http://www.ronpaul.com
From: Robert Baer on 13 Sep 2008 02:25 Eeyore wrote: > > krw wrote: > > >>rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... >> >>>krw wrote: >>> >>>>rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... >>>> >>>>>krw wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... >>>>>> >>>>>>>krw wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>There is nothing wrong with PL/M, other than there is hasn't been >>>>>>>>support for it for a quarter century. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>What would it need support for ? >>>>>> >>>>>>Bugs (the OS variety, if nothing else). I don't use orphanware on >>>>>>new projects. I don't need to add risk to projects. >>>>> >>>>>Which bugs would those be ? The product is so mature it's untrue. >>>> >>>>Try reading. I can't take the risk of bugs cropping up in >>>>unsupported software. If there are no bugs in the compiler (don't >>>>believe it) Windows will install them. >>> >>>Ir runs under DOS. >> >>...assuming DOS still runs. You do like to take risks! > > > What a silly comment. DOS is the only stable product ever to come from Microsoft. > NO risks whatever plus the compile time on a modern PC is in the blink of an > eyelid. Shame really since even with fast ATs it was time enough to go get a > coffee. > > I can remember when applications NEVER crashed. > > Graham > Case in point..Pawn Shops use software to manage their inventory as well as create reports for the BATF on demand. Almost all of them $pend thousands of dollars for fancy WinDoze programs that appear to do a half-way reasonable job, except...the damn OS crashes more than once a week on a semi-ranDUMB basis. There are a few that use not-so-fancy DOS programs, some of which give moer realistic support...and never crash (well, except when the power goes out).
From: Eeyore on 13 Sep 2008 06:41
Rich Grise wrote: > Eeyore wrote: > > krw wrote: > >> rabbitsfriendsandrelations(a)hotmail.com says... > >> > > >> > Ir runs under DOS. > >> > >> ...assuming DOS still runs. You do like to take risks! > > > > What a silly comment. DOS is the only stable product ever to come from Microsoft. > > Actually, it didn't come from Microsoft. It came from Digital Reasearch; M$ > just brokered the usurious deal with IBM that gave us the 8088 PC and all > the rest. Digital Research produced CP/M (PL/M's companion). Funnily enough, the early Amstrad 1512 PC 'clone' bit highly integrated came with both DOS 3.x and CP/M with it's GUI whose name eludes me now. It's rumoured that the only reason IBM didn't chose CP/M is that Gary Kildall didn't want to meet their suits. DOS/ IBM DOS was original QDOS IIRC from another company that MS bought it off. Doubtless Google will have the details. Graham |