From: Michael A. Terrell on

ian field wrote:
>
> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:e9CdnUM894RZ2tDUnZ2dnUVZ_j0AAAAA(a)earthlink.com...
> >
> > Peter Hucker wrote:
> >>
> >> Designing anything for alkalines only in ths day and age is absurd.
> >
> >
> > Show us some of your designs, troll.
> >
>
> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......
>
> Ow - my sides hurt!


I forgot: A frozen parrot on a stick doesn't count.


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From: ian field on

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> ian field wrote:
>>
>> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message
>> news:e9CdnUM894RZ2tDUnZ2dnUVZ_j0AAAAA(a)earthlink.com...
>> >
>> > Peter Hucker wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Designing anything for alkalines only in ths day and age is absurd.
>> >
>> >
>> > Show us some of your designs, troll.
>> >
>>
>> BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA.......
>>
>> Ow - my sides hurt!
>
>
> I forgot: A frozen parrot on a stick doesn't count.
>

PHucker couldn't even design that!


From: Geoffrey S. Mendelson on
Peter Hucker wrote:
> There are Lithium AAs.

There are 1.5 volt lithium batteries, such as AA's. They are rare, and
have extremely long shelf life, but I have never seen specs for
discharge rate, etc.

The only ones I have ever seen were packed with a fan powered gas mask,
but I think you can get them if you shop around.

Considering the shelf life of alkeline batteries sold here is less than
a year, even the "name brands". It's almost a moot point. We no longer
get any batteries from west of us, they all come from Korea, "China"
(inside the PRC), Singapore or Hong Kong.

Even the Japanese brands (Sony, Panasonic, Toshiba) are made in China,
and so are the famous US brands (EverReady, DuraCell). The only one missing
is Ray-O-Vac.

Geoff.

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From: Ron(UK) on
Peter Hucker wrote:

>
> Designing anything for alkalines only in ths day and age is absurd.

In your opinion maybe. Professionals in the sound industry use quality
replaceable batteries, they are reliable - reliability means
_everything_ when a show (or your job) is at stake.

>
> P.S. rechargeables have LESS internal resistance. Try shorting a rechargeable and see how hot it gets.

Try shorting a 9 volt Procell! stand well back tho...

Ron

From: Lostgallifreyan on
"Ron(UK)" <ron(a)lunevalleyaudio.com> wrote in
news:HKadnVPgwPOru9PUnZ2dnUVZ8rKdnZ2d(a)bt.com:

> In your opinion maybe. Professionals in the sound industry use quality
> replaceable batteries, they are reliable - reliability means
> _everything_ when a show (or your job) is at stake.
>

Lame. I keep hearing this silly excuse. This is consumer high-street shop
level thinking. The whole audio industry is riddled with it. For decades dull
black boxes have been shifted with the letters PRO on them, regardless of how
tacky they are, never has an industry blown its trumpet so loudly.

Do they use alkalines in space? In oil drilling gear that has to go down deep
in the earth and stand vibrations? In pacemakers? In aircraft black boxes?
Ok, maybe they do, sometimes, but there are lot of battery technologies
reached for when mission critical reliability is needed, and I bet most
industries don't reach for alkalines. Oil wells reach for lithium thionyl
chloride, for example. If long life primaries with extreme reliability are
important to people who are so up themselves with their 'reputation' and
their expensive hours that are worth SO many batteries, why not buy those?

Instead of clinging to one aging method that is highly polluting, use some
imagination and explore what REAL professionals with mission critical
requirements are up to. Compared to those, the industry that makes such a
song and dance of putting microphones in front of delegates at conferences is
like the hairdressers and telephone sanitisers that Douglas Adams whimsically
crashlanded on some planet along with a captain with a penchant for bathtubs
and rubber ducks. >:) While we need entertainment and communication to make
life worth living, people used to get by till very recently without having to
use so many mics to feel important or get themselves heard.

Get a grip. This thread has wound its way round this silly circle for too
long, and I should never have got into it myself, but I have, and this is my
parting shot. I'll read the flames if I have the patience, but I will try not
to get further involved.

I admit to using a few alkalines at times, but either where laziness is more
attractive than performance, or where nothing else fits yet. If I could
change all to Li-ion or lithium thionyl chloride types, I would.
Specifically, the only time I justify an alkaline is when I need a PP3 that
is ready to use, between long periods of disuse. For anything else, I find
another way.