From: jakdedert on
DaveC wrote:
> I want to keep some NiMH rechargeable 9v batteries in my tool bag (well, my
> meter bag, actually). I am currently running a double loop of electrical tape
> around the entire battery to insulate the terminals.
>
> I'd like to use something more durable (one battery has had a terminal peek
> through the tape) and was thinking about something like a battery terminal
> connector but made of insulating material like nylon (probably of some
> cheaper plastic).
>
> Does such a thing exist? I did web searches, but maybe my terminology isn't
> spot-on...
>
> Ideas?
>
> Thanks,

As Michael pointed out, the same caps that Duracells ship with are
available in aftermarket. Personally, I just use a piece of gaffers
(duct) tape, line the cells up--terminals down, adhesive side up--then
fold the tape down over the sides. That's enough to keep them from
shorting together. Put in a drawer or box, they won't short to anything
else.

YMMV...the goo from the tape is sometimes an issue.

jak
From: Spehro Pefhany on
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:38:29 -0600, the renowned jakdedert
<jakdedert(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:

>DaveC wrote:
>> I want to keep some NiMH rechargeable 9v batteries in my tool bag (well, my
>> meter bag, actually). I am currently running a double loop of electrical tape
>> around the entire battery to insulate the terminals.
>>
>> I'd like to use something more durable (one battery has had a terminal peek
>> through the tape) and was thinking about something like a battery terminal
>> connector but made of insulating material like nylon (probably of some
>> cheaper plastic).
>>
>> Does such a thing exist? I did web searches, but maybe my terminology isn't
>> spot-on...
>>
>> Ideas?
>>
>> Thanks,
>
>As Michael pointed out, the same caps that Duracells ship with are
>available in aftermarket. Personally, I just use a piece of gaffers
>(duct) tape, line the cells up--terminals down, adhesive side up--then
>fold the tape down over the sides. That's enough to keep them from
>shorting together. Put in a drawer or box, they won't short to anything
>else.
>
>YMMV...the goo from the tape is sometimes an issue.
>
>jak

Now if it's AA/AAA/CR123 cells you want to protect, there are nice
little soft plastic snap boxes available that work fine. Dealextreme
sells a set of 3 4-cell AA boxes for < $2.50. Pricey for a few bits of
plastic, but that includes worldwide shipping. I use them for NiMH AA
cells. You often get them for free when you buy a set of 4 cells.

Just out of curiosity, what are you using that requires a 9V
rechargable battery? Something special? Most occasional-use meters and
such like are better off with a 9V primary cell because of the low
self discharge rate of primary cells compared to NiMH.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
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From: jakdedert on
Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 21:38:29 -0600, the renowned jakdedert
> <jakdedert(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
>> DaveC wrote:
>>> I want to keep some NiMH rechargeable 9v batteries in my tool bag (well, my
>>> meter bag, actually). I am currently running a double loop of electrical tape
>>> around the entire battery to insulate the terminals.
>>>
>>> I'd like to use something more durable (one battery has had a terminal peek
>>> through the tape) and was thinking about something like a battery terminal
>>> connector but made of insulating material like nylon (probably of some
>>> cheaper plastic).
>>>
>>> Does such a thing exist? I did web searches, but maybe my terminology isn't
>>> spot-on...
>>>
>>> Ideas?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>> As Michael pointed out, the same caps that Duracells ship with are
>> available in aftermarket. Personally, I just use a piece of gaffers
>> (duct) tape, line the cells up--terminals down, adhesive side up--then
>> fold the tape down over the sides. That's enough to keep them from
>> shorting together. Put in a drawer or box, they won't short to anything
>> else.
>>
>> YMMV...the goo from the tape is sometimes an issue.
>>
>> jak
>
> Now if it's AA/AAA/CR123 cells you want to protect, there are nice
> little soft plastic snap boxes available that work fine. Dealextreme
> sells a set of 3 4-cell AA boxes for < $2.50. Pricey for a few bits of
> plastic, but that includes worldwide shipping. I use them for NiMH AA
> cells. You often get them for free when you buy a set of 4 cells.
>
> Just out of curiosity, what are you using that requires a 9V
> rechargable battery? Something special? Most occasional-use meters and
> such like are better off with a 9V primary cell because of the low
> self discharge rate of primary cells compared to NiMH.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Spehro Pefhany

To be honest, I don't use them for anything. My comments referred to
alkalines used in wireless mics and other sound equipment. I save the
used batteries in the manner suggested above. 9v's are expensive.
While I wouldn't use them again professionally, we change them at almost
every opportunity, since the expense is trivial compared to a dead mic
during a show or presentation. As such, they are still useful for less
demanding applications.

I also wouldn't use rechargables for the application; but the size,
shape and intent are close enough for the method to be useful to the OP.

jak
From: Dave Plowman (News) on
In article <WY_1l.9317$UI2.6904(a)bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
jakdedert <jakdedert(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> To be honest, I don't use them for anything. My comments referred to
> alkalines used in wireless mics and other sound equipment. I save the
> used batteries in the manner suggested above. 9v's are expensive.
> While I wouldn't use them again professionally, we change them at almost
> every opportunity, since the expense is trivial compared to a dead mic
> during a show or presentation.

Surely the client effectively pays for them?

But if you're using decent quality batteries and equipment, the life
should be pretty consistent. With mine, it's 9 hours so I change at 8. If
I were using them for an all day presentation where they could only be
changed at say the lunch break, good rechargeables *might* be worth it.
Assuming your mics have an SMPS that can work on the lower voltage.

But as I said earlier, 'pro' batteries bought by the box already come with
a clip on protector. Or do in the UK. And are cheaper per unit than buying
retail - unless you're willing to use no name stuff. At the moment I'm
using Energiser.

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From: Michael A. Terrell on

"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
>
> In article <WY_1l.9317$UI2.6904(a)bignews6.bellsouth.net>,
> jakdedert <jakdedert(a)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > To be honest, I don't use them for anything. My comments referred to
> > alkalines used in wireless mics and other sound equipment. I save the
> > used batteries in the manner suggested above. 9v's are expensive.
> > While I wouldn't use them again professionally, we change them at almost
> > every opportunity, since the expense is trivial compared to a dead mic
> > during a show or presentation.
>
> Surely the client effectively pays for them?


He is in the convention business. The mics are used to at least half
battery life, per use. Rather than take a chance of one dying before a
second use is over, the battery is replaced. It's figured to be a
consumable item like gaffer's tape & light bulbs.


> But if you're using decent quality batteries and equipment, the life
> should be pretty consistent. With mine, it's 9 hours so I change at 8. If
> I were using them for an all day presentation where they could only be
> changed at say the lunch break, good rechargeables *might* be worth it.
> Assuming your mics have an SMPS that can work on the lower voltage.
>
> But as I said earlier, 'pro' batteries bought by the box already come with
> a clip on protector. Or do in the UK. And are cheaper per unit than buying
> retail - unless you're willing to use no name stuff. At the moment I'm
> using Energiser.


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