A constant speed of light in all reference frames? Surely you can't be serious.
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From: BURT on 23 Feb 2010 22:31 On Feb 23, 7:24 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 23, 10:21 pm, "Peter Webb" > > <webbfam...(a)DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote: > > This is not how it works in AD. Everything in AD is with respect to > > the aether. When the clocks are moved to A' and B' they are not > > synchronized with respect to each other. > > > ___________________________ > > How do you work out your speed "relative to the ether"? What makes you think > > it exists at all? > > I have explained this to you at least 10 times. If you want to know > how it works out with respect to the aether read the posts I have > already posted in response to this question. There is an absolute space frame for all motions. This is demonstrated by moving behind or ahead of light. Mitch Raemsch
From: Ste on 23 Feb 2010 22:36 On 23 Feb, 14:55, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 22, 11:19 pm, Ste <ste_ro...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > Do you want to ask that question regarding a particular set-up of > > > detectors and sources? > > > Yes, but I think I'll start another thread when I've had a bit of time > > to sit down and think about the problem. > > As you wish. You may find it more constructive just talking through > the problem with someone rather than trying to think it through > yourself, though. Just sayin'. All I mean is that I need a bit of time to sit down and identify the questions that need to be asked, and how to ask them in a way that is likely to garner a reponse that I find meaningful.
From: mpc755 on 23 Feb 2010 22:42 On Feb 23, 10:21 pm, "Peter Webb" <webbfam...(a)DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote: > This is not how it works in AD. Everything in AD is with respect to > the aether. When the clocks are moved to A' and B' they are not > synchronized with respect to each other. > > ___________________________ > How do you work out your speed "relative to the ether"? What makes you think > it exists at all? What you can determine is your state, or approximate state, with respect to the aether. "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places" - Albert Einstein This means the aether is at rest, or almost at rest, with respect to the surface of the Earth. This means the aether is more at rest with respect to the embankment than it is to the train. MMX, Michelson-Gale and other experiments are evidence of the aether at rest with respect to the surface of the Earth.
From: BURT on 23 Feb 2010 22:48 On Feb 23, 7:42 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 23, 10:21 pm, "Peter Webb" > > <webbfam...(a)DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote: > > This is not how it works in AD. Everything in AD is with respect to > > the aether. When the clocks are moved to A' and B' they are not > > synchronized with respect to each other. > > > ___________________________ > > How do you work out your speed "relative to the ether"? What makes you think > > it exists at all? > > What you can determine is your state, or approximate state, with > respect to the aether. > > "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections > with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places" - > Albert Einstein > > This means the aether is at rest, or almost at rest, with respect to > the surface of the Earth. This means the aether is more at rest with > respect to the embankment than it is to the train. MMX, Michelson-Gale > and other experiments are evidence of the aether at rest with respect > to the surface of the Earth. Space has its own aether that orders the motions of energy in orbit.
From: Peter Webb on 23 Feb 2010 23:18
"mpc755" <mpc755(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:3d071cf9-0885-44d9-a3b0-2ebc4338fb16(a)d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... On Feb 23, 10:21 pm, "Peter Webb" <webbfam...(a)DIESPAMDIEoptusnet.com.au> wrote: > This is not how it works in AD. Everything in AD is with respect to > the aether. When the clocks are moved to A' and B' they are not > synchronized with respect to each other. > > ___________________________ > How do you work out your speed "relative to the ether"? What makes you > think > it exists at all? I have explained this to you at least 10 times. If you want to know how it works out with respect to the aether read the posts I have already posted in response to this question. __________________________________ You haven't outlined an experiment which would show your speed "relative to the ether". I suggested one - you measure the speed of light in your local reference frame, subtract it from 'c', and this gives you your speed relative to the ether. You said this wouldn't work because the speed of light will always be measured at 'c', so this will always show you are at rest with respect to the ether. So, please outline an experiment which would tell you your speed relative to the ether as being anything other than zero. |