From: Tim McNamara on
In article <michelle-E1E0DE.22004624022010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <timmcn-E3510B.21002724022010(a)news-2.mpls.iphouse.net>,
> Tim McNamara <timmcn(a)bitstream.net> wrote:
>
> > > > What qualifies as "old timer"? Anything pre OS X?
> > >
> > > In the context of the question, it meant anyone who used the
> > > original Macintosh System.
> >
> > The very original?
>
> Yup, the very first, that shipped with the 128K Mac at first.
>
> Back then, all upgrades to the system were free until (I think) the
> first system with multifinder. It stayed at $50 until System 7, when
> it went up to $100, and remained there until Mac OS X was released at
> $129. That remained the price until Mac OS X 10.6, which reduced the
> price to $29. I'm going by memory on this, so I may have some
> details wrong.

Yes, I remember going to the Apple dealer with a stack o' floppies and
getting the system updates for free for 5 and 6. I think I got 7 that
way, too, but unfortunately as I get older my memory is what it used to
be.

--
"I wear the cheese, it does not wear me."
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on

Michelle Steiner wrote:
> Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
>> The missing numbering... I have all system from 0,9 and up and they all
>> have a number... - And since you mean the System 0,9x/1.0 it can't be
>> MacWrite II/Pro either,
>
> That's why I didn't specify MacWrite II or MacWrite Pro. I said MacWrite
> and MacPaint.

You should have, - and I mean this honestly... The different versions of
the 'real' MacWrite - ver. 1.0 to 5.0 had different shortcuts in some
versions for the same in the different languages. I.e. Some shortcuts
could vary from the orig. US English version in German, French, Danish,
Italian, Spanish (Spanish-Spanish - not US-Spanish) or even UK English.
So I find it very relevant to know which version. - For example do I
have both an US-EN, UK-EN, GE-DE, DA-DK MacWrite 5.0, - In the DE and DK
'Outline' is COM+SHIFT+O, 'Print' COM+SHIFT+P etc.. COM+P just prints
the desktop in both System 1.0/Finder 1.1 and up to at least System 6.0.5.

> BTW, I was on the development team of MacWrite Pro, but I think I mentioned
> that here before.

Maybe, but I don't recall that... But then I can see that you are one of
those, who needs a 'kick' somewhere.:-) - You should have fought the
blood out of your nails to protect the developing of that app. - The
MacWrite II - and later Pro - still are among the very best text
processors on the Mac ever made! - Gosh! IF the line had been held all
the way up... We probably then would have had one of the most powerful
ever made applications on any platform...

Cheers, Erik Richard

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Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-manNOSP(a)Mstofanet.dk>
NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com
OpenOffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org
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From: Warren Oates on
In article <timmcn-C7A449.00241625022010(a)news-1.mpls.iphouse.net>,
Tim McNamara <timmcn(a)bitstream.net> wrote:

> Yes, I remember going to the Apple dealer with a stack o' floppies and
> getting the system updates for free for 5 and 6. I think I got 7 that
> way, too, but unfortunately as I get older my memory is what it used to
> be.

I remember (we had a "fat Mac") going to various places that used/sold
Macs with floppy that I'd insert into their machines to steal the
"desktop accessories" that we didn't have.

We did desktop publishing with PageMaker 1.1. The Finder was
1.something, I forget what the system was. Aldus sent us t-shirts (mine
has shrunk). Aldus would answer the phone in Oregon (no 800 number
though) and actually listen to what you had to say and take notes. Try
that with Adoble.
--
Very old woody beets will never cook tender.
-- Fannie Farmer
From: Steven Fisher on
In article <michelle-4C8464.21555124022010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <sdfisher-CF360E.19144824022010(a)mara100-84.onlink.net>,
> Steven Fisher <sdfisher(a)spamcop.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Command-W
> > >
> > > Close window
> >
> > Probably not. Early versions didn't have a close, right? You just opened
> > another document and the first would close.
>
> It had Close in the File menu, just like today's Mac OS does, but it didn't
> have a keyboard shortcut. And you could open more than one document in the
> same application, depending on the application (yes with MacWrite, no with
> MacPaint).

Ah. I stand corrected. I have the most vivid memories of MacPaint for
some reason.


Steve
From: Tim McNamara on
In article <4b867a93$0$9206$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
Warren Oates <warren.oates(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> In article <timmcn-C7A449.00241625022010(a)news-1.mpls.iphouse.net>,
> Tim McNamara <timmcn(a)bitstream.net> wrote:
>
> > Yes, I remember going to the Apple dealer with a stack o' floppies
> > and getting the system updates for free for 5 and 6. I think I got
> > 7 that way, too, but unfortunately as I get older my memory is what
> > it used to be.
>
> I remember (we had a "fat Mac") going to various places that
> used/sold Macs with floppy that I'd insert into their machines to
> steal the "desktop accessories" that we didn't have.

A friend of mine obtained a few things that way by going to Kinko's,
this was back in the SE30 days and there were a bunch there.

> We did desktop publishing with PageMaker 1.1. The Finder was
> 1.something, I forget what the system was. Aldus sent us t-shirts
> (mine has shrunk). Aldus would answer the phone in Oregon (no 800
> number though) and actually listen to what you had to say and take
> notes. Try that with Adoble.

Ah, the good old days when software companies had about a dozen
employees and time for their customers.

--
"I wear the cheese, it does not wear me."
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