From: cjcountess on
Analogous to a line of 1 inch in the linear direction x a line of 1
inch in the 90 degree angular direction to equal 1 square inch, and or
a velocity in the linear direction x a velocity in the 90 degree
angular direction to create a balance of centrifugal and centripetal
forces and circular motion measured as (F=mv^2/r = Gmm/r/2), (c^2) in
equation (E=mc^2) can be considered, c in circular motion and the
point on the EM spectrum, where energy equals, and turns to "matter/
rest mass". This is a simple explanation of why energy equals rest
mass through mathematical conversion factor of (c^2), because (c^2) is
an actual conversion frequency, where energy acquires rest mass,
because it takes on a circular and or spherical form. "G" or the
gravity constant, which is measured as "L/T^2" equals "c^2", on this
quantum level because "c^2", is the ultimate velocity squared, and as
energy in circular and or spherical motion, it is easy to see how it
is at this point that energy acquires rest mass, because of a more
balanced energy, mass, and momentum, around a center of rotation. As
such, (c^2 = G and also has wavelength = c x 2pi, with angular
momentum, which is inversely proportional to wavelength, at h/2pi).
This has profound implication concerning the Planck scale because
instead of combining, (c, h/2pi, and G), to get Planck scale of
"length, mass, and time, excetra, which is also suposed to be level at
which "Quantum Gravity" is revealed, we combine (c^2, G, h/2pi,) find
that they are equal and see that this is indeed that level of "Quantum
Gravity", which is within reach, and the "electron", searves as the
physical manifestation of these basic dimensions

If we take a line of 1 inch in linear direction and a line of 1 inch
in 90 degree angular direction as such __| and draw an arc from
beginning of horizontal line, to top end of vertical line, we get a 90
degree arc which if constant creates a circle with radius equal to h =
c and thus the c x 2pi and the h / 2pi.
Furthermore the equation for circular motion on macro scale of (F=mv^2/
r = F = mv/r^2 = F= Gmm/r^2) can apply if we substitute E for F, hf
for mv, and r for c, as (E=hf/c^2)
As the same force that contracts energy into rest mass at (E = hf /
c^2) is the same that makes rest mass gravitate together at F=mv^2/r =
F=mv/r^2 = Gmm/r^2.

It is so simple yet so profound, and I am proud and honored to be the
one to present it to the world.

My name is "Conrad J Countess", and I have the utmost confidence in
this.
From: Y.Porat on
On Feb 1, 9:24 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 31, 1:19 pm, artful <artful...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 30, 11:10 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > D.K.Y
>
> > > Why should energy, momentum, and force, have different equations?
>
> > They are different things
>
> > > (F=mv^2),
>
> > Wrong formula .. gees .. this is basic physics
>
> > > is essentialy (E=mc^2) and (1/2KE=mv^2)
>
> > Wrong formula .. gees .. this is basic physics
>
> > > and (p=mv) is (F=mv)
>
> > Wrong formula .. gees .. this is basic physics
>
> > Go back to school (if you ever went) and study some physics.  You are
> > just posting utter nonsense
>
> > [snip rest of drivel]
>
> -------------------
> Mr artful   (btw what is you real name
> -
> ie why should you  be anonymous
> ie what have you to hide  or loose by coming with your real   name ??)
>
> so anyway :
>
> please give us your explanation why is it:
> (beside the 'dry mathematical formalism )
>
> energy in macrocosm   1/2 m V ^2
>
> and in       microcosm         mc^2
>
> (for  momentum   m v  and      m  c
> is quite identical )
>
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ------------------------------

and i am still waiting to artful answer
ie
waht is your understanding of it
not only the formal mathematics

TIA
Y.Porat
---------------------
--------------------------
From: Y.Porat on
On Feb 1, 6:45 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Analogous to a line of 1 inch in the linear direction x a line of 1
> inch in the 90 degree angular direction to equal 1 square inch, and or
> a velocity in the linear direction x a velocity in the 90 degree
> angular direction to create a balance of centrifugal and centripetal
> forces and circular motion measured as (F=mv^2/r = Gmm/r/2), (c^2) in
> equation (E=mc^2) can be considered, c in circular motion and the
> point on the EM spectrum, where energy equals, and turns to "matter/
> rest mass". This is a simple explanation of why energy equals rest
> mass through mathematical conversion factor of (c^2), because (c^2) is
> an actual conversion frequency, where energy acquires rest mass,
> because it takes on a circular and or spherical form. "G" or the
> gravity constant, which is measured as "L/T^2" equals "c^2", on this
> quantum level because "c^2", is the ultimate velocity squared, and as
> energy in circular and or spherical motion, it is easy to see how it
> is at this point that energy acquires rest mass, because of a more
> balanced energy, mass, and momentum, around a center of rotation. As
> such, (c^2 = G and also has wavelength = c x 2pi, with angular
> momentum, which is inversely proportional to wavelength, at h/2pi).
> This has profound implication concerning the Planck scale because
> instead of combining, (c, h/2pi, and G), to get Planck scale of
> "length, mass, and time, excetra, which is also suposed to be level at
> which "Quantum Gravity" is revealed, we combine (c^2, G, h/2pi,) find
> that they are equal and see that this is indeed that level of "Quantum
> Gravity", which is within reach, and the "electron", searves as the
> physical manifestation of these basic dimensions
>
> If we take a line of 1 inch in linear direction and a line of 1 inch
> in 90 degree angular direction as such __| and draw an arc from
> beginning of horizontal line, to top end of vertical line, we get a 90
> degree arc which if constant creates a circle with radius equal to h =
> c and thus the c x 2pi and the h / 2pi.
> Furthermore the equation for circular motion on macro scale of (F=mv^2/
> r = F = mv/r^2 = F= Gmm/r^2) can apply if we substitute E for F, hf
> for mv, and r for c, as (E=hf/c^2)
> As the same force that contracts energy into rest mass at (E = hf /
> c^2) is the same that makes rest mass gravitate together at F=mv^2/r =
> F=mv/r^2 = Gmm/r^2.
>
> It is so simple yet so profound, and I am proud and honored to be the
> one to present it to the world.
>
> My name is "Conrad J Countess", and I have the utmost confidence in
> this.

---------------------
Hi Conrad
see my explanation to the above issue
in the sketch called as
(a stil unknown physics:(of ther Circlon )

you can see there that in microcosm
for each mass in enormous movement
you need another identical mass
**to hold it in its microcosm volume**

by constantly colliding with it

otho
in macrocosm it i snot needed !!
big macrocosm masses can move * in slow movement )or not
if a mass moves i t moves and leaving its location
if it does not move
it stays in its location ( it has only** inner** vigorous movement
((

ATB
Y.Porat
------------------------
From: cjcountess on
On Feb 1, 12:15 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 1, 6:45 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Analogous to a line of 1 inch in the linear direction x a line of 1
> > inch in the 90 degree angular direction to equal 1 square inch, and or
> > a velocity in the linear direction x a velocity in the 90 degree
> > angular direction to create a balance of centrifugal and centripetal
> > forces and circular motion measured as (F=mv^2/r = Gmm/r/2), (c^2) in
> > equation (E=mc^2) can be considered, c in circular motion and the
> > point on the EM spectrum, where energy equals, and turns to "matter/
> > rest mass". This is a simple explanation of why energy equals rest
> > mass through mathematical conversion factor of (c^2), because (c^2) is
> > an actual conversion frequency, where energy acquires rest mass,
> > because it takes on a circular and or spherical form. "G" or the
> > gravity constant, which is measured as "L/T^2" equals "c^2", on this
> > quantum level because "c^2", is the ultimate velocity squared, and as
> > energy in circular and or spherical motion, it is easy to see how it
> > is at this point that energy acquires rest mass, because of a more
> > balanced energy, mass, and momentum, around a center of rotation. As
> > such, (c^2 = G and also has wavelength = c x 2pi, with angular
> > momentum, which is inversely proportional to wavelength, at h/2pi).
> > This has profound implication concerning the Planck scale because
> > instead of combining, (c, h/2pi, and G), to get Planck scale of
> > "length, mass, and time, excetra, which is also suposed to be level at
> > which "Quantum Gravity" is revealed, we combine (c^2, G, h/2pi,) find
> > that they are equal and see that this is indeed that level of "Quantum
> > Gravity", which is within reach, and the "electron", searves as the
> > physical manifestation of these basic dimensions
>
> > If we take a line of 1 inch in linear direction and a line of 1 inch
> > in 90 degree angular direction as such __| and draw an arc from
> > beginning of horizontal line, to top end of vertical line, we get a 90
> > degree arc which if constant creates a circle with radius equal to h =
> > c and thus the c x 2pi and the h / 2pi.
> > Furthermore the equation for circular motion on macro scale of (F=mv^2/
> > r = F = mv/r^2 = F= Gmm/r^2) can apply if we substitute E for F, hf
> > for mv, and r for c, as (E=hf/c^2)
> > As the same force that contracts energy into rest mass at (E = hf /
> > c^2) is the same that makes rest mass gravitate together at F=mv^2/r =
> > F=mv/r^2 = Gmm/r^2.
>
> > It is so simple yet so profound, and I am proud and honored to be the
> > one to present it to the world.
>
> > My name is "Conrad J Countess", and I have the utmost confidence in
> > this.
>
> ---------------------
> Hi Conrad
> see my explanation to the above issue
> in   the sketch   called as
> (a stil unknown physics:(of ther Circlon  )
>
> you can   see there that in  microcosm
> for each   mass in enormous movement
> you need another identical mass
> **to   hold it in its microcosm volume**
>
> by constantly colliding with  it
>
> otho
> in   macrocosm it  i snot needed !!
>  big macrocosm  masses can   move * in slow movement )or not
> if a mass moves i t    moves and leaving its location
> if  it does not move
> it stays  in its location ( it has only** inner** vigorous movement
> ((
>
> ATB
> Y.Porat
> ------------------------- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

O.K. Porat

I will need more time to study it.

I do appreciate your civility and your willingness to discuss this
respectfully.

artful, D.Y. K., inertia, and others seem to be threatened by my work
and they should be.

I am going to expose them for the frauds that they are

I had more respect for D.Y.K at first because he used his real name
and spoke politely. But now he seems to be so threatened by my
geometrical interpretation of E=mc^2, because it shows in picturest
form, that energy and matter are equal, and related through conversion
factor of c^2, plain and simple

He is goin to go back to the drawing board, as his whole foundation
has been shaken. He is probably in a mental and philosophical
earthquake.

He and the others are going to try and win the debate on
technicalities, like precision of definitions, spelling, and grama,
but I will stick to the evidence itself, as it is supreme.

I am tempted to rest my case now because I know that I have more than
enough evidence to defeat them


They seem to belong to the debate class of, "if you cannot convence,
then confuse, and win at all cost" but they are debating with nature
itself, and nature has spoken clearly, although not very loud, And
this is where they will try to loud talk the debate, and divert
attention from what is clearly, simple and true, probably under the
guse that nature and understanding of it is complex. But do not
believe them.

First examing the evidence yourself I assure you that it is alot
simpler than most of these foolishly proud people will have us
believe. This is how they eliet gain and maintain power.

But I am going to expose the truth of the simplicity of it and also
those who are still trying to conceal it.

In the mean time, I will have a little fun with them, and get some
debate practice.

Out of respect for this forum, I will not stoop to their level of
confusing and deciet, but I do intend on not pulling any more punches
with them

I have lost respect for them and they will feel my displeasure

For the rest of you, I do maintain respect, and am greatful that we
have a forum such as this, with which we can introduce new and
revolutionary ideas.

This may be a valuable lesson for us all, as some take this subject so
seriously, that disagreeing with them is like defiling their religion,
or critisizing their artwork, for which they can and are becoming very
hostil.

But the cooler heads will prevail, and to the rest of the audience,
please maintain you judgement till all the evidence is presented in
its clearest and complete form.

I am sure you will not be disapointed, as we all may learn something,
as well as be intertained.

Conrad J Countess

P.S.

Has anyone else expeirenced any dificulties with posting, and have
their post, which appear on other sites been sabataged or corruped.
Because it seems that I am have these problems, and I do not want to
accuse anyone until I am sure, but there seems to be dirt being
spilled into the game, as these post sometimes appear to be altered.

So watch out everyone, the truth may be the first casualty of this
debate, if these people have the type of access to distort and change
what they cannot successfuly argue against.

If they cannot win the debate they will distort it, so just be
vigialent

Thank you and look out for echother, and those who are more concerned
with what is right, than who is right.

Conrad J Countess
From: artful on
On Feb 1, 6:24 pm, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 31, 1:19 pm, artful <artful...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jan 30, 11:10 pm, cjcountess <cjcount...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > D.K.Y
>
> > > Why should energy, momentum, and force, have different equations?
>
> > They are different things
>
> > > (F=mv^2),
>
> > Wrong formula .. gees .. this is basic physics
>
> > > is essentialy (E=mc^2) and (1/2KE=mv^2)
>
> > Wrong formula .. gees .. this is basic physics
>
> > > and (p=mv) is (F=mv)
>
> > Wrong formula .. gees .. this is basic physics
>
> > Go back to school (if you ever went) and study some physics.  You are
> > just posting utter nonsense
>
> > [snip rest of drivel]
>
> -------------------
> Mr artful   (btw what is you real name
> -
> ie why should you  be anonymous
> ie what have you to hide  or loose by coming with your real   name ??)
>
> so anyway :
>
> please give us your explanation why is it:
> (beside the 'dry mathematical formalism )
>
> energy in macrocosm   1/2 m V ^2
>
> and in       microcosm         mc^2
>
> (for  momentum   m v  and      m  c
> is quite identical )
>
> TIA
> Y.Porat
> ------------------------------

Its simple maths .. series expansion. The 1/2mv^2 is what the formula
for kinetic energy reduces to when v <<c .. the other terms in the
series become insignificantly small
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