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From: Nico Coesel on 20 Dec 2006 17:27 "Antti" <Antti.Lukats(a)xilant.com> wrote: >Nico Coesel schrieb: > >> "Antti Lukats" <antti(a)openchip.org> wrote: >> >> >PicoBlaze C compiler has been available for some time already, >> >but until yesterday I never tried it. >> >But today when I type: >> > >> What I'm really interested in is whether the assembly code generated >> by the compiler is well optimized or not. Can you post the generated >> assembly code? >> > >no. >the PicoBlaze C compiler is not very optimizing. so dont expect >miracles. but still it was fun to see that it is useable and produces >working code. if you want to test out you can download the PCCOMP from >the authors site or download the MicroFpga demo package where it is >included, the script there deletes all interim files, so just uncomment Antti, Just a comment: I've looked around your website a bit, but I can't really figure out what MicroFpga (which is your product?) is intended to do and how it may help me. -- Reply to nico(a)nctdevpuntnl (punt=.) Bedrijven en winkels vindt U op www.adresboekje.nl
From: spartan3wiz on 21 Dec 2006 09:08 Hi Antti, I like what you have done and are trying to do with MicroFPGA. Nice idea! I downloaded your MicroFPGA test-package but I can't get it working correctly. As I understand the clock used are created by some kind of internal DDS of something? Can you explain this further? Can this give problems with differnet circuits? I tried out both the build.bat for the assembler-example and the build.bat for the C-example. Both of them create a download.bit but when downloading them using Impact no LED is blinking. I use: Windows XP Spartan3-Starter Kit 200K from Digilent and also pointed out both the correct circuit (xc3s200_ft256) AND the correct board (digilent\s3sk) ISE v8.1 - Impact for download, and the standard Parallell-JTAG cable that came with the kit! I also changed the assembler code to reflect the correct pins for my board: -snip- .... OUTPUT ON, pad_K12 OUTPUT OFF, pad_P14 OUTPUT OFF, pad_L12 OUTPUT ON, pad_N14 OUTPUT OFF, pad_P13 OUTPUT ON, pad_N12 OUTPUT OFF, pad_P12 OUTPUT ON, pad_P11 swloop: OUTPUT ON, pad_K12 CALL ledelay OUTPUT OFF, pad_K12 CALL ledelay -snip- A note is that the "prepare.bat"-file uses direct-path to the xilinx82-environment and for me that is using xilinx81 I must manually go in and change it and it did not indicate any errors before doing this either. Use the %XILINX% environment variable instead in some smart way. I've changed it to suit me, but this didn't fix the problem.. Do you have any ideas what could be wrong with my setup? The end-result is that the board indicates a correctly download-procedure by lighting the green LED next to the "PROG DONE" button. How should the RESET be handled within Impact? Now it automatically starts (try to start) after the programming has finished. Keep on working on the tool and I'll keep on testing it and reporting back! Best Regards Magnus Antti Lukats wrote: > PicoBlaze C compiler has been available for some time already, > but until yesterday I never tried it. > But today when I type: > > >start build.bat > > then the following C file > > ----- cut ----- > // This is first PCCOMP Program tested on MicroFpga! > // Target was S3-200 with KCPSM3_256S MF-Core > > #include "..\inc\padmap.h" > #include "..\inc\board.h" > #include "..\lib\pinapi.h" > > unsigned int i; > > // Delay > void ledelay() { for (i=0;i<65000;i++) {} } > > void main() > { > // blink a LED forever ! > while (1) { > SetPin(LED1, 0); ledelay(); > SetPin(LED1, 1); ledelay(); > } > } > ----- cut ----- > > generates a BIT file (without invoking synthesis or fpga implementation > tools) > and there is LED blinking on my desk right this moment :) > > KCSPM3_256S core only supports maximum 256 FPGA I/Os but its still fun > > the evaluation package is ready for download > > http://www.microfpga.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=27&func=fileinfo&id=3 > > it includes the MicroFpga bitstreams and compile scripts > devices included: > xc2v1000_fg256 > xc2v250_cs144 > xc2v250_fg256 > xc2v250_fg456 > xc2v40_cs144 > xc2v40_fg256 > xc2v500_fg256 > xc2v80_cs144 > xc2v80_fg256 > xc2vp2_ff672 > xc2vp2_fg256 > xc2vp2_fg456 > xc2vp4_fg256 > xc2vp4_fg456 > xc2vp7_fg456 > xc3s1000_fg320 > xc3s1000_ft256 > xc3s200_ft256 > xc3s200_pq208 > xc3s200_tq144 > xc3s200_vq100 > xc3s400_fg320 > xc3s400_ft256 > xc3s400_pq208 > xc3s400_tq144 > xc3s50_cp132 > xc3s50_pq208 > xc3s50_tq144 > xc3s50_vq100 > xc4vfx12_sf363 > xc4vlx15_sf363 > xc4vlx25_sf363 > > note: MicroFpga is useable on linux too, but PCCOMP and KCPSM3 are only > available for > windows platform - on linux the java based picoblaze assembler should be > used > (we have no scripts or support for that at the moment) > > Antti > PS MicroBlaze based MicroFgpa packages are are also ready but will be > released a little later.
From: Antti Lukats on 21 Dec 2006 13:09 "spartan3wiz" <magnus.wedmark(a)gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:1166710133.913520.220700(a)n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > Hi Antti, > > I like what you have done and are trying to do with MicroFPGA. Nice > idea! > > I downloaded your MicroFPGA test-package but I can't get it working > correctly. As I understand the clock used are created by some kind of > internal DDS of something? Can you explain this further? Can this give > problems with differnet circuits? > > I tried out both the build.bat for the assembler-example and the > build.bat for the C-example. Both of them create a download.bit but > when downloading them using Impact no LED is blinking. > Hi Magnus, thanks a lot for trying - it seems that you made all correct there was however a minor typo in assembly example build script namly project was set to 'blink' and source code was 'leds' as result an empty hex file was created, and that will not do anything. the c example should have compiled out of the box, and assuming the board specific include file was ok, it should have worked. all MicroFpga's start without the need of any external signals eg no clock or reset is required depending on the MicroFpga config there may be options to change the clock later to either different frequency or source. note that there is also no need to worry about "startup clock" setting, the same bitstream will work without changing the clock option from jtag and from cclk based configuration method. S3sk board has LEDs active high, so when the microfpga is loaded all of them should be half-on because of the fpga pullups. if want to troubleshoot uncomment the "clean" to leave all files in place and look that the .mem file is not empty after configuring with download.bit read back the usercode should be a5000001 if that all doesnt help please contact per email, we do provide support Antti http://groups.google.com/group/microfpga
From: spartan3wiz on 23 Dec 2006 08:15
Antti, Thank you very much for your support while messing around with the demo-versions of MicroFPGA. Now everything works out fine. In the end it all was configuration bug in either the Spartan-3 Starter Kit or the Xilinx ISE package! I still think that Xilinx has a great complete solution for FPGA-development. All software has bugs... you just have to find a way to work around them! :-) PS: That LED is blinking like hell now! I can hardly get it to stop! :-) See ya! Magnus Antti Lukats wrote: > "spartan3wiz" <magnus.wedmark(a)gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:1166710133.913520.220700(a)n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > Hi Antti, > > > > I like what you have done and are trying to do with MicroFPGA. Nice > > idea! > > > > I downloaded your MicroFPGA test-package but I can't get it working > > correctly. As I understand the clock used are created by some kind of > > internal DDS of something? Can you explain this further? Can this give > > problems with differnet circuits? > > > > I tried out both the build.bat for the assembler-example and the > > build.bat for the C-example. Both of them create a download.bit but > > when downloading them using Impact no LED is blinking. > > > Hi Magnus, > > thanks a lot for trying - it seems that you made all correct > there was however a minor typo in assembly example build script > namly project was set to 'blink' and source code was 'leds' as > result an empty hex file was created, and that will not do anything. > > the c example should have compiled out of the box, and assuming the > board specific include file was ok, it should have worked. > > all MicroFpga's start without the need of any external signals > eg no clock or reset is required depending on the MicroFpga > config there may be options to change the clock later to either > different frequency or source. > > note that there is also no need to worry about "startup clock" > setting, the same bitstream will work without changing the clock > option from jtag and from cclk based configuration method. > > S3sk board has LEDs active high, so when the microfpga > is loaded all of them should be half-on because of the fpga > pullups. > > if want to troubleshoot uncomment the "clean" to leave all > files in place and look that the .mem file is not empty > > after configuring with download.bit read back the usercode > should be a5000001 > > if that all doesnt help please contact per email, we do > provide support > > Antti > http://groups.google.com/group/microfpga |