From: Nico Coesel on
"Antti" <Antti.Lukats(a)xilant.com> wrote:

>Nico Coesel schrieb:
>
>> "Antti Lukats" <antti(a)openchip.org> wrote:
>>
>> >PicoBlaze C compiler has been available for some time already,
>> >but until yesterday I never tried it.
>> >But today when I type:
>> >
>> What I'm really interested in is whether the assembly code generated
>> by the compiler is well optimized or not. Can you post the generated
>> assembly code?
>>
>
>no.
>the PicoBlaze C compiler is not very optimizing. so dont expect
>miracles. but still it was fun to see that it is useable and produces
>working code. if you want to test out you can download the PCCOMP from
>the authors site or download the MicroFpga demo package where it is
>included, the script there deletes all interim files, so just uncomment

Antti,
Just a comment: I've looked around your website a bit, but I can't
really figure out what MicroFpga (which is your product?) is intended
to do and how it may help me.

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From: spartan3wiz on
Hi Antti,

I like what you have done and are trying to do with MicroFPGA. Nice
idea!

I downloaded your MicroFPGA test-package but I can't get it working
correctly. As I understand the clock used are created by some kind of
internal DDS of something? Can you explain this further? Can this give
problems with differnet circuits?

I tried out both the build.bat for the assembler-example and the
build.bat for the C-example. Both of them create a download.bit but
when downloading them using Impact no LED is blinking.

I use:
Windows XP
Spartan3-Starter Kit 200K from Digilent and also pointed out both the
correct circuit
(xc3s200_ft256) AND the correct board (digilent\s3sk)
ISE v8.1 - Impact for download, and the standard Parallell-JTAG cable
that came with the kit!

I also changed the assembler code to reflect the correct pins for my
board:

-snip-
....
OUTPUT ON, pad_K12
OUTPUT OFF, pad_P14
OUTPUT OFF, pad_L12
OUTPUT ON, pad_N14

OUTPUT OFF, pad_P13
OUTPUT ON, pad_N12
OUTPUT OFF, pad_P12
OUTPUT ON, pad_P11
swloop:


OUTPUT ON, pad_K12
CALL ledelay

OUTPUT OFF, pad_K12
CALL ledelay
-snip-

A note is that the "prepare.bat"-file uses direct-path to the
xilinx82-environment and for me that is using xilinx81 I must manually
go in and change it and it did not indicate any errors before doing
this either. Use the %XILINX% environment variable instead in some
smart way. I've changed it to suit me, but this didn't fix the
problem..

Do you have any ideas what could be wrong with my setup? The end-result
is that the board indicates a correctly download-procedure by lighting
the green LED next to the "PROG DONE" button. How should the RESET be
handled within Impact? Now it automatically starts (try to start) after
the programming has finished.

Keep on working on the tool and I'll keep on testing it and reporting
back!

Best Regards
Magnus


Antti Lukats wrote:
> PicoBlaze C compiler has been available for some time already,
> but until yesterday I never tried it.
> But today when I type:
>
> >start build.bat
>
> then the following C file
>
> ----- cut -----
> // This is first PCCOMP Program tested on MicroFpga!
> // Target was S3-200 with KCPSM3_256S MF-Core
>
> #include "..\inc\padmap.h"
> #include "..\inc\board.h"
> #include "..\lib\pinapi.h"
>
> unsigned int i;
>
> // Delay
> void ledelay() { for (i=0;i<65000;i++) {} }
>
> void main()
> {
> // blink a LED forever !
> while (1) {
> SetPin(LED1, 0); ledelay();
> SetPin(LED1, 1); ledelay();
> }
> }
> ----- cut -----
>
> generates a BIT file (without invoking synthesis or fpga implementation
> tools)
> and there is LED blinking on my desk right this moment :)
>
> KCSPM3_256S core only supports maximum 256 FPGA I/Os but its still fun
>
> the evaluation package is ready for download
>
> http://www.microfpga.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=27&func=fileinfo&id=3
>
> it includes the MicroFpga bitstreams and compile scripts
> devices included:
> xc2v1000_fg256
> xc2v250_cs144
> xc2v250_fg256
> xc2v250_fg456
> xc2v40_cs144
> xc2v40_fg256
> xc2v500_fg256
> xc2v80_cs144
> xc2v80_fg256
> xc2vp2_ff672
> xc2vp2_fg256
> xc2vp2_fg456
> xc2vp4_fg256
> xc2vp4_fg456
> xc2vp7_fg456
> xc3s1000_fg320
> xc3s1000_ft256
> xc3s200_ft256
> xc3s200_pq208
> xc3s200_tq144
> xc3s200_vq100
> xc3s400_fg320
> xc3s400_ft256
> xc3s400_pq208
> xc3s400_tq144
> xc3s50_cp132
> xc3s50_pq208
> xc3s50_tq144
> xc3s50_vq100
> xc4vfx12_sf363
> xc4vlx15_sf363
> xc4vlx25_sf363
>
> note: MicroFpga is useable on linux too, but PCCOMP and KCPSM3 are only
> available for
> windows platform - on linux the java based picoblaze assembler should be
> used
> (we have no scripts or support for that at the moment)
>
> Antti
> PS MicroBlaze based MicroFgpa packages are are also ready but will be
> released a little later.

From: Antti Lukats on
"spartan3wiz" <magnus.wedmark(a)gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:1166710133.913520.220700(a)n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Antti,
>
> I like what you have done and are trying to do with MicroFPGA. Nice
> idea!
>
> I downloaded your MicroFPGA test-package but I can't get it working
> correctly. As I understand the clock used are created by some kind of
> internal DDS of something? Can you explain this further? Can this give
> problems with differnet circuits?
>
> I tried out both the build.bat for the assembler-example and the
> build.bat for the C-example. Both of them create a download.bit but
> when downloading them using Impact no LED is blinking.
>
Hi Magnus,

thanks a lot for trying - it seems that you made all correct
there was however a minor typo in assembly example build script
namly project was set to 'blink' and source code was 'leds' as
result an empty hex file was created, and that will not do anything.

the c example should have compiled out of the box, and assuming the
board specific include file was ok, it should have worked.

all MicroFpga's start without the need of any external signals
eg no clock or reset is required depending on the MicroFpga
config there may be options to change the clock later to either
different frequency or source.

note that there is also no need to worry about "startup clock"
setting, the same bitstream will work without changing the clock
option from jtag and from cclk based configuration method.

S3sk board has LEDs active high, so when the microfpga
is loaded all of them should be half-on because of the fpga
pullups.

if want to troubleshoot uncomment the "clean" to leave all
files in place and look that the .mem file is not empty

after configuring with download.bit read back the usercode
should be a5000001

if that all doesnt help please contact per email, we do
provide support

Antti
http://groups.google.com/group/microfpga


From: spartan3wiz on
Antti,

Thank you very much for your support while messing around with the
demo-versions of MicroFPGA. Now everything works out fine. In the end
it all was configuration bug in either the Spartan-3 Starter Kit or the
Xilinx ISE package! I still think that Xilinx has a great complete
solution for FPGA-development. All software has bugs... you just have
to find a way to work around them! :-)

PS:
That LED is blinking like hell now! I can hardly get it to stop! :-)

See ya!
Magnus

Antti Lukats wrote:
> "spartan3wiz" <magnus.wedmark(a)gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:1166710133.913520.220700(a)n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > Hi Antti,
> >
> > I like what you have done and are trying to do with MicroFPGA. Nice
> > idea!
> >
> > I downloaded your MicroFPGA test-package but I can't get it working
> > correctly. As I understand the clock used are created by some kind of
> > internal DDS of something? Can you explain this further? Can this give
> > problems with differnet circuits?
> >
> > I tried out both the build.bat for the assembler-example and the
> > build.bat for the C-example. Both of them create a download.bit but
> > when downloading them using Impact no LED is blinking.
> >
> Hi Magnus,
>
> thanks a lot for trying - it seems that you made all correct
> there was however a minor typo in assembly example build script
> namly project was set to 'blink' and source code was 'leds' as
> result an empty hex file was created, and that will not do anything.
>
> the c example should have compiled out of the box, and assuming the
> board specific include file was ok, it should have worked.
>
> all MicroFpga's start without the need of any external signals
> eg no clock or reset is required depending on the MicroFpga
> config there may be options to change the clock later to either
> different frequency or source.
>
> note that there is also no need to worry about "startup clock"
> setting, the same bitstream will work without changing the clock
> option from jtag and from cclk based configuration method.
>
> S3sk board has LEDs active high, so when the microfpga
> is loaded all of them should be half-on because of the fpga
> pullups.
>
> if want to troubleshoot uncomment the "clean" to leave all
> files in place and look that the .mem file is not empty
>
> after configuring with download.bit read back the usercode
> should be a5000001
>
> if that all doesnt help please contact per email, we do
> provide support
>
> Antti
> http://groups.google.com/group/microfpga

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