From: Art on
On 28 Aug 2006 00:55:53 GMT, Mike Dee <mikedee(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:


>None of the mobile racks we've purchased have required the key to turn
>on the hard drive. It has only been used to lock the tray in place when
>moving computers etc.
>
>Recently a friend purchased some racks and told me that he had to use
>the key to access the drive. This was news to me at the time. Not all
>racks are the same obviously.

These are usually called "hot switchable". You turn the DC power
on/off with the keylock switch. As a EE, I've never been comfortable
with the idea, but I have switched mine on while in Windows, etc.,
and in other situations like after a DOS boot. But normally, I only
turn mine on/off when power is shut down to the machine, just to
be on the safe side.

Art
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From: Daze N. Knights on
Mark Warner wrote:
> mike wrote:
>> "humphry" <humphry(a)i.com> wrote in
>> news:44f0ed1c$0$8875$88260bb3(a)free.teranews.com:
>>> of course you can.. that is a feature of kde....
>>> the taskbar is called "panel" in kde linux.. right click on it and you
>>> will see the
>>> Configure Panel option. Then you will see a window that has some small
>>> rectangle buttons in a square formation.. this shows where you want to
>>> place the
>>> "taskbar". See screenshot
>>
>> Very nice, too.
>>
>> Of course, this is one of the things that drives me nutty about trying
>> to use linux - it's all so nice if you can speak the language.
>>
>> What we get is a few fine chaps like you and Mark who answer specific
>> questions - and there's not all tha many who do, in English at any
>> rate, and you try it - (I just have), and you think, what a cracking
>> OS, if only I could find out which one was the OS, and the
>> instructions weren't written in Klingon.
>>
>> Oh well, we shall win, if we faint not ;-)
>
> Yes, getting the lingo can be difficult. One reason is that using Linux
> gives you so many choices, and all those choices have different names.
>
> In very non-technical terms:
>
> "Linux" is the kernel -- the base layer that interacts with the
> hardware. It is strictly command line. Everything is built on top of it.
> This alone can be considered an operating system, though only a few
> uber-geeks would find it useful.
>
> "KDE", "Gnome", "xFce", "Fluxbox", etc. are window managers -- they are
> essentially the GUI interface and a set of included applications.
> Windows-think prevents us from thinking of the kernel and the window
> manager as being separate, but they are -- W2K, XP, and 2K3 are all
> built on the Microsoft NT kernel.
>
> Then there are the applications. Some are essentially stand-alone,
> others "depend" on other components found in KDE or Gnome or elsewhere.
> Fortunately, the 'apt' and/or 'rpm' systems that are used to download
> and install most applications are able to seamlessly find these
> 'dependencies' and include them in the download and installation.
>
> A distribution (distro) is one iteration of a combination of the Linux
> kernel, a window manager, and applications. When one talks about
> PCLinuxOS, Red Hat, SimplyMEPIS, Ubuntu, or anything of that nature, one
> is referring to a particular distro.
>
> Then there are the derivatives. There are a handful of what I would call
> "base" distributions out there that others have customized. Debian has
> produced the most derivatives, it appears, among them Ubuntu, Knoppix,
> and Damn Small Linux. SimplyMEPIS recently went a step further and
> switched from building on top of Debian to building on top of Ubuntu,
> making it a Debian derivative, once removed. Other bases are Red Hat,
> which has spawned Mandriva (which has spawned PCLinuxOS) and Fedora
> Core. Slackware has a spawned Zenwalk.
>
> What you will find is that there is a great deal of similarity between
> distros from a certain "family" -- working with and in the Debian based
> distros is in many cases identical from one to another. I personally
> have been able to utilize tips and tricks from say Ubuntu in
> SimplyMEPIS. No doubt the same can be said about Mandriva and PCLinuxOS.
>
> HTH.
>

Nice rundown, Mark. Thanx.

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From: John Fitzsimons on
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:12:31 GMT, Al Smith <invalid(a)address.com>
wrote:

< snip >

>> Yes, exactly. I have a 160 GB HD as my second HD which is permanently
>> mounted as the "D" drive, and a swappable tray which is my "C" drive.

>> -- Mr Bill

>That would make a lot of sense. I like the idea.

Not such a good idea for "security" reasons. Also, having all your
drive(s) as removable is a good idea if you go away on holiday and/
or want a quick/easy way to move everything to another computer.

Regards, John.

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From: raincoater on
Hello, Mark Warner !
You wrote:


> No. KDE is the window manager; e.g. the GUI interface and all the basic
> programs and utilities that come with it. Gnome is the other big name.
>
> Knoppix is a live CD packge based on Debian that uses Gnome.

Not so. Knoppix defaults to KDE.
From: humphry on
My trays have small fans on them....

But I dont use trays anymore...


"Roger Johansson" <roger4911(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156703931.374114.48320(a)75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Bill Turner wrote:
>
>> >I have not mounted the hard disks as usual. I'm too lazy for that. It
>> >is easier to just place a new hd in the computer and connect it without
>> >pushing it into a compartment often hindered by cables.
>
>> It would be interesting to see if your HDs are running hotter than
>> usual. Without screwing them down, you lose a certain amount of heat
>> dissipation through the mounting itself.
>
> There are both advantages and disadvantages with pushing the HD into a
> compartment and screw it in a fixed position. The screws and the sheet
> metal leads some heat away, but the compartment stops air from flowing
> freely around it.
> So maybe the advantage is balanced by the disadvantage.
>
> I have had my HDs unmounted like this for years and have experienced
> only one HD going bad, it was very old and probably worn out.
>
> There are air streams around the hard disks because the power supply
> fan blows air around inside the computer even without a cover.
>
> I have a friend who has 5-6 hard disks standing beside his computer,
> with some space between them and with the contacts on top, and he
> doesn't use a cover either, so he can easily move the contacts to the
> HDs he wants to use for the moment.
>
> He has screwed them to a 6 inch long piece of sheet metal to keep them
> in place, one screw for each HD. His HDs don't get much air stream at
> all and it has worked fine for him for at least five years. HDs don't
> get hot, by the way, I often handle them and have not felt much heat
> when I touch them.
>
> The drawer type of HD tray is not so easy to change a HD in, the HD
> needs to be connected to the contacts inside the tray, and the top lid
> should be put on it again before pushing it into position.
>
> I have such a HD tray unit on a shelf here but it is too much work to
> mount it and it is easier to just move contacts on free-standing HDs.
> I don't even have a 5" compartment free, by the way, because I have two
> CD-burner units.
>
>
> --
> Roger J.
>



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