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From: Roger Johansson on 23 Sep 2006 08:00 Mark Warner wrote: > PCLinuxOS v.93 > Registered Linux User #415318 > ...lose .inhibitions when replying So you are running PCLinuxOS v.93 now. I tried PCLinuxOS v.93 as a live-CD last night. I worked well but was a little slow, like Mepis, compared to Knoppix. I would prefer to use Knoppix as a live-CD, because it is much faster and easier to use, and it can easily save settings on a hard disk. The only problem with Knoppix is that it cannot deliver sound to my speakers, it says: "This kernel does not have support for sound", or something like that. Mepis and PCLinuxOS v.93 have no problems with my sound card, a Creative SB-Live, one of the most common sound cards in the world and at least 5 years old. I have no plans right now to install a linux version on a hard disk, I am just looking for the best live-CD. Knoppix is without doubts the best live-CD, but I need to listen to sound, mp3 songs. I have looked all over the web and in newsgroups for advice on Knoppix and sound problems, but I have found no answer. -- Roger J.
From: Cousin Stanley on 23 Sep 2006 13:33 > .... > The only problem with Knoppix is that it cannot deliver sound to my > speakers, it says: "This kernel does not have support for sound", or > something like that. > .... Cousin RJ .... As a long shot you might try an alternative at the Knoppix boot prompt .... boot: expert26 If I recall correctly this will load a 2.6 version Linux kernel which directly supports ALSA sound modules that could work better with the sound system you have .... However, I haven't used one of the newer Knoppix versions and things may have changed .... The last one I used was I think was Knoppix 3.7 .... If the newer Knoppix version you're using is already running a 2.6 version kernel, then the boot time alternative I suggested probably wouldn't make any difference .... -- Stanley C. Kitching Human Being Phoenix, Arizona ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =----
From: Michael Wardreau on 23 Sep 2006 16:18 On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 12:24:41 +0200, Ivan Tisljar <hlloyge(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: >Michael Wardreau wrote: > >> Any Ideas? I've a PC 1.25 GHz P5, lots of hard drive space. With >> noting on the screen there isn't anything to work on. >> >> I'll let it run overnight tonight and see if the live CD takes. >> I'm reading Linux for Dummies and PCLinux isn't listed in the book. >> I'm not much of a Dummies reader, but with Linux one needs that kind >> of material. > >If you want to try on Linux @home, I can reccomend Ubuntu (with Gnome >desktop), or KUbuntu (same, but with KDE desktop). >It's the most complete Linux distribution for home use. > >Ivan. I have Ubuntu. After reading LfD (Linux for Dummies) and they didn't mention Ubuntu, I didn't give it much thought. They weren't really pushing RedHat/Gnome but I could tell they favored it. Then I saw these nice remarks about PCLinux, so I went that way and, of course, went amuck. I'll try playing with Ubuntu and see what happens. (I've still got a torrent running to get RedHat. I'll keep it going.) I'm putting Linux on a Laptop I ran over with the car. The screen's gone but it runs with a CRT that I bought at Goodwill for $4. The Windows installation is still good on it, but won't run on the CRT for some reason. So, I thought, here's an ideal time to play with Linux on the Laptop -- nothing to loose!
From: Roger Johansson on 23 Sep 2006 19:42 Cousin Stanley wrote: > > The only problem with Knoppix is that it cannot deliver sound to my > > speakers, it says: "This kernel does not have support for sound", or > > something like that. > If the newer Knoppix version you're using is already > running a 2.6 version kernel, then the boot time alternative > I suggested probably wouldn't make any difference .... Knoppix 5 is using the 2.6 kernel so it should be in there. I tried a code I found knoppix alsa and found that it gives the same result as running without any code. I have been trying it out more now and I know now what goes wrong. I have a motherboard with an on-board sound system, the AC 97, which is common on motherboards. I never use this normally because it didn't work when I bought the computer. My SB-Live card works well with all software, win 98se and win 2000 and several linux versions. These linux versions are smart enough to see that the AC97 sound system is not in working order so they use the SB-Live card instead. Or they do not have driver routines for the AC97 so they ignore it. Maybe I have disabled the AC97 system in the BIOS but Knoppix does not realize that. When I start an mp3 song in knoppix it starts playing it, I see the spectrum display move in the sound player, but no sound is heard. Knoppix is obviously trying to use the on-board AC97 sound card. I tried moving the amplifier plug from the SB-Live card to the motherboard sound output but still no sound. In the sound volume control I can choose between using the mixer for AC97 or the SB-live mixer, so Knoppix has found the SB-Live card and can access its mixer. The real problem is a bug in Knoppix. When I go to the menu Knoppix, Configuration, Soundcard Configuration, to change which soundcard to use I am being forced into an old routine which says: Linux will now try to find PNP sound card units, OK or cancel. I choose Ok. Then this stupid routine says: This kernel does not have support for sound modules. OK I reply OK, by pushing Enter, and the routine ends. This routine seems to come from an old Red Hat setup, it says so in the frame of this box, which does not even accept input by the mouse. It is so old that I have to use Tab to change the choice and Enter to accept. Knoppix has already found both my sound mixers, and it just doesn't allow me to change from one soundcard to the other, because they have put a braindead Red Hat soundcard detection routine where a choice between available soundcards should have been. Unfortunately Linux does not have an overview of the hardware system, like in Windows, Control Panel, System, Hardware where you can change settings for different hardware units, decide to use a certain hardware or not, change settings, update the driver, etc.. If there was such a function in Linux I could easily disable the AC97 soundcard and use the SB-Live card instead. I followed carefully the start of knoppix and saw when it found the ac97 soundcard, but I never saw it find the SB-Live card. It can find its hardware mixer system though. -- Roger J.
From: jmatt on 23 Sep 2006 21:04
Roger Johansson wrote: > If there was such a function in Linux I could easily disable the AC97 > soundcard and use the SB-Live card instead. In the bios, check > http://thegoldenear.org/toolbox/win...ios-config.html Advanced Chipset Features OnChip Sound - enabled (unless you don't need sound or have a seperate sound card) http://www.msicomputer.com.au/html/e_service/techexpress/tech_column/article/biosetup.htm Advanced Chipset Features OnChip Sound(enabled/disabled) Enable/Disable onboard AC97 sound codec, set only to disabled when using PCI sound card |