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From: Char Jackson on 17 May 2010 20:08
On Mon, 17 May 2010 15:52:01 -0700, Mike Easter <MikeE(a)ster.invalid>
wrote:

<snip>
>The reason I'm expressing myself in so many words is because it isn't
>working for me. Maybe I'm trying to get this hardware to do something
>it can't do.

I think I understand a little better now. It doesn't seem like you
want anything unusual, but I don't know anything about your specific
hardware or its capabilities.

From: Mike Easter on 17 May 2010 21:12
Char Jackson wrote:
> Mike Easter

>>>>> Exercise 2:

> One way to accomplish that is to configure the 431 as a "wireless
> client bridge", in dd-wrt terms. The 431 will connect wirelessly to
> the existing router1/AP. Connect an Ethernet cable from one of the
> 431's LAN ports to Router2's WAN port.

> Using a device with dd-wrt, I believe you can use a single network
> device to accomplish the role of the 431 and router2. Wireless Client
> mode should do it, or Wireless Client Bridge mode if you need to keep
> router2 in the mix.
>
> If you're simply extending an existing subnet, then you'd connect to a
> LAN port on router2 and leave the WAN port unused, but if you're
> trying to create a new subnet under router2 you'd use its WAN port.
>
> There's a lot more information on this topic in the Wireless Wiki, to
> which a link is posted in this group pretty often. I just don't happen
> to have it handy at the moment, unfortunately.

Thanks.

John Navas and Jeff Liebermann

http://wireless.navas.us/wiki/Contents Navas Wireless Wiki is a
practical, comprehensive, and objective resource for wireless
communications, particularly wireless access to the Internet, and
related wireless technologies (e.g., cellular). Founded by John Navas
and Jeff Liebermann.

My target situation after the experimentation is most like WiFi on a
boat and lan on a boat in the wiki -- except the big problem with the
comparison of the wiki and reality is that the wiki assumes a level of
competence and consistency at the 'shore-based DHCP server' which in my
actual situation needs much better oversight and tech competence than
exists at the site on my trip. And that part is out of my control.

I won't know how good or bad it is until I get there.

The layers of access are: professionally managed and installed fiber to
the edge of the project, out of sight; non-tech-savvy amateurish
distribution of wireless toward something similar to metal boats or
manufactured homes; (I think) the back end/deck of the boat-like metal
enclosure is within easy line of sight of a wireless router or antenna
or something.

I want to have a wired/wireless lan inside that metal enclosure while
I'm there.

--
Mike Easter
From: Mike Easter on 18 May 2010 09:08
Mike Easter wrote:
> Char Jackson wrote:
>> Mike Easter
>
>>>>>> Exercise 2:
>
>> One way to accomplish that is to configure the 431 as a "wireless
>> client bridge", in dd-wrt terms. The 431 will connect wirelessly to
>> the existing router1/AP. Connect an Ethernet cable from one of the
>> 431's LAN ports to Router2's WAN port.
>
> My target situation after the experimentation is most like WiFi on a
> boat and lan on a boat in the wiki -

> I want to have a wired/wireless lan inside that metal enclosure while
> I'm there.
>
I got this exercise 2 working just fine now by configuring the 431 as a
AP client ethernetted to the WAN port of the router and not configured
as a WDS bridge in the 431 config section, that bridge config didn't work.

I'm glad that it works that way - as AP client, because that will allow
me to do exercise 1 and exercise 2 at the target facility without having
to reconfigure the 431.

What I want to do is assess the signal 'here and there' at the facility
and also with and without 2 mods to the 431.

In exercise 1, I'll evaluate the signal off the back deck of the
'houseboat' metal enclosure compared to that signal internal to the
houseboat. Then I'll evaluate the back deck signal with the first 431
mod which is a tall 14" rubber ducky boost for the 431 - replacing the
normal little omni antenna with the big tall omni one.

Then I also have a freeantennas reflector mod which is an enlarged
version of their ez-12 parabolic for the 14" ducky. The reflector isn't
14" tall, but it is about 7" high and the curved part was about 10"
before it curved. It fits 'nicely in the middle section of the 14" ducky.

I'll see if there is useful improvement to the signal strength with
those mods by connecting the AP client directly up to a laptop. That
will also allow me to aim the reflector if there is benefit in that mod.

Then I'll 'convert' the AP client into the 'receiver' for the router
inside the houseboat.



--
Mike Easter
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