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From: TaliesinSoft on 14 Feb 2010 01:03 On 2010-02-13 16:19:31 -0600, dorayme said: [responding to my wanting my browser to hold off displaying a website until the downloading has been completed, thus avoiding what I've dubbed the "splip, splot, splap" displaying of elements of the site as they become available] > But I take your point, maybe browsers could have a button on them > so that you can press it when you notice a slow and irritatingly > loading page! But hang on! There is such a button/option and I > used it extensively for years when on dial up. It is called > Command Tab or click the plus sign or double click in the browser > space to bring up a new tab. The irritating site loads in the tab > you are not watching. All I want is an option to not see the various parts of the site pop into place as the download proceeds. Just a simple fade-in fade-out screen that would wait until the download completes would be sufficient. -- James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com
From: dorayme on 14 Feb 2010 02:33 In article <7tpi1gFeq3U1(a)mid.individual.net>, TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > On 2010-02-13 16:19:31 -0600, dorayme said: > > [responding to my wanting my browser to hold off displaying a website > until the downloading has been completed, thus avoiding what I've > dubbed the "splip, splot, splap" displaying of elements of the site as > they become available] > > > But I take your point, maybe browsers could have a button on them > > so that you can press it when you notice a slow and irritatingly > > loading page! But hang on! There is such a button/option and I > > used it extensively for years when on dial up. It is called > > Command Tab or click the plus sign or double click in the browser > > space to bring up a new tab. The irritating site loads in the tab > > you are not watching. > > All I want is an option to not see the various parts of the site pop > into place as the download proceeds. Just a simple fade-in fade-out > screen that would wait until the download completes would be sufficient. I said how to get that option close enough, why not comment on that? I know, you want what you can't have and exactly! But what about nearby strategies? -- dorayme
From: Warren Oates on 14 Feb 2010 07:44 In article <7tpi1gFeq3U1(a)mid.individual.net>, TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > All I want is an option to not see the various parts of the site pop > into place as the download proceeds. Just a simple fade-in fade-out > screen that would wait until the download completes would be sufficient. Have you got a link to a site that actually loads that slowly? -- Very old woody beets will never cook tender. -- Fannie Farmer
From: TaliesinSoft on 14 Feb 2010 09:16 On 2010-02-14 01:33:31 -0600, dorayme said: > In article <7tpi1gFeq3U1(a)mid.individual.net>, > TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > >> On 2010-02-13 16:19:31 -0600, dorayme said: >> >> [responding to my wanting my browser to hold off displaying a website >> until the downloading has been completed, thus avoiding what I've >> dubbed the "splip, splot, splap" displaying of elements of the site as >> they become available] >> >>> But I take your point, maybe browsers could have a button on them >>> so that you can press it when you notice a slow and irritatingly >>> loading page! But hang on! There is such a button/option and I >>> used it extensively for years when on dial up. It is called >>> Command Tab or click the plus sign or double click in the browser >>> space to bring up a new tab. The irritating site loads in the tab >>> you are not watching. >> >> All I want is an option to not see the various parts of the site pop >> into place as the download proceeds. Just a simple fade-in fade-out >> screen that would wait until the download completes would be sufficient. > > I said how to get that option close enough, why not comment on > that? I know, you want what you can't have and exactly! But what > about nearby strategies? What I want is a completely automatic and smooth effect that presents the site smoothly the moment the downloading is complete. Opening a new tab is not automatic and this takes two explicit actions on my part, creating the new tab and then guessing when the download will be complete and then deleting that download is complete. Given that Safari has an indicator that shows the downloading taking place it would seem not too difficult to implement the effect I would like. -- James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com
From: dorayme on 14 Feb 2010 16:20
In article <7tqetfF3skU1(a)mid.individual.net>, TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > What I want is a completely automatic and smooth effect that presents > the site smoothly the moment the downloading is complete. Opening a new > tab is not automatic and this takes two explicit actions on my part, > creating the new tab and then guessing when the download will be > complete and then deleting that download is complete. Given that Safari > has an indicator that shows the downloading taking place it would seem > not too difficult to implement the effect I would like. Well, perhaps it is *just* the ugliness of the jerkiness that bothers you. I was thinking more that it would only bother you if it took a significant amount of time to complete. Let's take the two possible cases in turn, first where the site loads fast but you notice and feel sickened by the sight of the jerkiness (no matter that it is over in under 5 secs or so). And second, where it takes a significant amount of time, say, 30 secs or more. Yes, these are arbitrary figures and much depends on individual patience and business. In the first case, OK, you want a pleasant curtain (a blank screen might do you) till the show opens fully fledged with all the actors in place. I know. You can't have it! But if you accept this, I will make you a nice cocoa before bedtime. <g> In the second case, you get close to what you want if you are busy and have *other things to do* on your browser by opening a tab and doing something else in that tab till it is convenient for you to return to the original tab that would have eventually stopped "circling" (see Safari). The problem, you see, is that you are probably a male earthling and do not take to doing more than one thing at a time. In my case, non-earthling altogether, I do many things at the same time. I would not get through the day's work if I did not. I was on dial up for Christ's sake for years and this technique was a killer one to tackle the slowness and all the things that go with that (painful awareness of time being wasted and jerkiness and so on). Another reason, just btw, that sites jerk often, besides the one I mentioned with image sizing, is that tables are often used for display layout purposes. Now the point here is that those who use tables for layout these days tend to be the less cluey authors and do not know some of the best practices for making it easy for browsers to reserve space in advance for the table and all its parts. There are ways but this is, of course, off topic. -- dorayme |