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From: TaliesinSoft on 14 Feb 2010 23:16 On 2010-02-14 15:20:30 -0600, dorayme said: > In article <7tqetfF3skU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > >> What I want is a completely automatic and smooth effect that presents >> the site smoothly the moment the downloading is complete. Opening a new >> tab is not automatic and this takes two explicit actions on my part, >> creating the new tab and then guessing when the download will be >> complete and then deleting that download is complete. Given that Safari >> has an indicator that shows the downloading taking place it would seem >> not too difficult to implement the effect I would like. > > Well, perhaps it is *just* the ugliness of the jerkiness that > bothers you. I was thinking more that it would only bother you if > it took a significant amount of time to complete. Let's take the > two possible cases in turn, first where the site loads fast but > you notice and feel sickened by the sight of the jerkiness (no > matter that it is over in under 5 secs or so). And second, where > it takes a significant amount of time, say, 30 secs or more. Yes, > these are arbitrary figures and much depends on individual > patience and business. > > In the first case, OK, you want a pleasant curtain (a blank > screen might do you) till the show opens fully fledged with all > the actors in place. I know. You can't have it! But if you accept > this, I will make you a nice cocoa before bedtime. <g> Here I would be most happy to have a fadeout followed by a fadein, the fades taking perhaps a half second each, with a soft gray screen between the fades if needed. And how did you know that I love cocoa at bedtime! > In the second case, you get close to what you want if you are > busy and have *other things to do* on your browser by opening a > tab and doing something else in that tab till it is convenient > for you to return to the original tab that would have eventually > stopped "circling" (see Safari). There are currently times, albeit somewhat infrequently, when I will tab and do something else. But these are the times when I'm likely impatient at the slow loading of a site. > The problem, you see, is that you are probably a male earthling > and do not take to doing more than one thing at a time. In my > case, non-earthling altogether, I do many things at the same > time. I would not get through the day's work if I did not. I was > on dial up for Christ's sake for years and this technique was a > killer one to tackle the slowness and all the things that go with > that (painful awareness of time being wasted and jerkiness and so > on). In general your assertion that I do not take to doing more than one thing at a time is quite true. But there are indeed exceptions when I have to wait a while for something to complete. As for dial up it has been about ten years since I last connected that way. And speaking of dial up I remember when, and I'm speaking now of in the late sixties, when I connected to a time sharing mainframe at something just over a hundred baud using a socalled acoustic coupling modem, this being with a character only hard copy terminal. > Another reason, just btw, that sites jerk often, besides the one > I mentioned with image sizing, is that tables are often used for > display layout purposes. Now the point here is that those who use > tables for layout these days tend to be the less cluey authors > and do not know some of the best practices for making it easy for > browsers to reserve space in advance for the table and all its > parts. There are ways but this is, of course, off topic. And I do want to give you sincere thanks for your taking the time to compose a thoughtful reply to my grumpings! :-) -- James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com
From: dorayme on 15 Feb 2010 00:29 In article <7ts04gF81aU1(a)mid.individual.net>, TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > And how did you know that I love cocoa at > bedtime! Because all good boys like cocoa. I have a special concoction for bad boys, it involves nettles, frogs' eyes, rats' tails and castor oil. -- dorayme
From: TaliesinSoft on 15 Feb 2010 00:36 Continuing from my prior posting in this thread in which I responded to Dorayme's thoughtful post which was a response to my expressing a wanting for my browser, Safari, to have a smooth transition when a new website is selected.... Perhaps how my desktop is organized provides a clue as to why I find the current presentation via Safari when I open a website, a presentation that displays components of the site piece by piece as the components of the site are downloaded instead of waiting until the entirety of the site is received and then presenting it all at once. When no applications are open my desktop displays only a pleasing (at least to me) background. The dock at the bottom and the menu at the top are normally hidden. Objects appear on the desktop only until such time within a session when I move them to a folder somewhere in my file structure or trash them. The only items that remain permanently in my dock are Finder and Trash. So I guess it all boils down to my being a compulsive neatnik! :-) -- James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com
From: dorayme on 15 Feb 2010 02:01 In article <7ts4qtFr8fU1(a)mid.individual.net>, TaliesinSoft <taliesinsoft(a)me.com> wrote: > When no applications are open my desktop displays only a pleasing (at > least to me) background. The dock at the bottom and the menu at the top > are normally hidden. > I knew you could hide the dock (I do), but the menus? At least not in Tiger? > Objects appear on the desktop only until such time within a session > when I move them to a folder somewhere in my file structure or trash > them. -- dorayme
From: TaliesinSoft on 15 Feb 2010 08:42
On 2010-02-15 01:01:27 -0600, dorayme said: [in resonse to my having stated] > >> When no applications are open my desktop displays only a pleasing (at >> least to me) background. The dock at the bottom and the menu at the top >> are normally hidden. >> > > I knew you could hide the dock (I do), but the menus? At least > not in Tiger? I run a little applet, Menu Eclipse, which "hides" the menu when it is not in use by overlaying it with a solid black. A slight disadvantage to this is that the space normally occupied by the menu will not be filled with the background. My real preference would be to have the menu disappear and appear as does the dock. -- James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com |