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From: StoneThrower on 31 May 2010 05:48 Hi, Can someone (perhaps resident Atmel guru Ulf Samuelsson RSVP) arguably explain how AVR32 is posioned against competition in terms of market share and future "road map". I guess I'm asking for a kind of marketing pitch to convince me that investing money in development tools and time in learning them is a "good" investment in a long run, in contrast with the same time/money dilema pertaining ARMs (therefore ***no*** PIC32 dilema here). I'm not asking for a ARM vs AVR32 technical dissection(s), although I wouldn't mind, just some courage to jump into deep AVR32 waters. I still have a kind of fobia regarding infamous Hitachi's "6 months notice before EOL". -- StoneThrower www.dgmicrosys.com
From: -jg on 31 May 2010 06:26 On May 31, 9:48 pm, "StoneThrower" <digi_64- public[removethis]@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone (perhaps resident Atmel guru Ulf Samuelsson RSVP) arguably > explain how AVR32 is posioned against competition in terms of market share > and future "road map". posioned ? One indicator is usage, and you can get one measure of that, from Digikey : If an item is currently in stock, but also showing 'non-stock', then that means they will not re-stock (sales too slow?) when stocks do run out, and so that could be a good package/device combination to avoid. Here is an example: AT32UC3B1128-Z1UT-ND (QFN48) http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=AT32UC3B1128-Z1UT-ND -jg
From: StoneThrower on 31 May 2010 07:00 > posioned ? right, posiTIoned, sorry, my bad, I haven't run my post thru spelling checker. -- StoneThrower www.dgmicrosys.com
From: Chris H on 31 May 2010 06:50 In message <c7fe4150-c1c0-409c-92a3-b5ef054b2975(a)u20g2000pru.googlegroup s.com>, -jg <jim.granville(a)gmail.com> writes >On May 31, 9:48�pm, "StoneThrower" <digi_64- >public[removethis]@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Can someone (perhaps resident Atmel guru Ulf Samuelsson RSVP) arguably >> explain how AVR32 is posioned against competition in terms of market share >> and future "road map". > >posioned ? > >One indicator is usage, and you can get one measure of that, from >Digikey : Not really. It could be that as the AVR32 is so popular with the big users Atmel does not have time for small players like Digikey. Most reps for Silicon distis don't get out of bed for deals at less than 50K USD p/a. I doubt Digi sells the AVR32 in volume. It is not as though they are quoting for reels/trays with a MOQ of 250, their highest price break is 100 off. Any one doing serious development will be able to get 10-20 parts as free samples so no need of Digikey. -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: larwe on 31 May 2010 08:58
On May 31, 6:50 am, Chris H <ch...(a)phaedsys.org> wrote: > Any one doing serious development will be able to get 10-20 parts as > free samples so no need of Digikey. Ha. I work for a company with around US$33BN in market capitalization. We use HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of Atmel devices a year. Per policy, it is extremely difficult to get more than 5 samples of any part out of Atmel. Direct or through disti, it is just not possible. You have to get your rep to split the orders into multiple fake orders to fake customers just to get 20 parts. |