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From: Paul Stamler on 17 Jun 2008 18:03 "Mike Dobony" <sword(a)notasarian-host.net> wrote in message news:1qfmkktlxpuu.10sikkrm8osp4.dlg(a)40tude.net... > > In the digital world, you have an outrageous amount of dynamic range > > available at the recorder. So you can compress things afterward, once > > you get the recording made. This gives you a chance to fiddle around > > with settings to avoid audible artifacts like the background noise pumping > > and exaggerated P-popping. The noise floor on the recording is limited > > by the mike preamps more than anything else, so doing the compression > > before the recorder or after the recorder gives you the same results. > > > > CD's are going directly from recorder to duplicator. There will be no > editing. Recordings on Friday. CD's available on Friday night and > Saturday morning. Right now we have over 300 people registered for the > conference and expect that many to sign up at the door. There are going to > be about 8-10 separate recordings available. I don't know that we have > anybody available to even edit if we wanted to. I have other duties before > and after the breakout sessions. > > > So you can turn the level way down so that yelling doesn't clip anything, > > and bring the rest up in post, without the noise floor a huge issue. > > > > And then the normal parts are too soft. > > > It's sure a better world than when folks were using those Marantz cassette > > decks for this kind of work, and living with the AGC pumping up and down > > throughout the whole thing. > > True, IF you have the time available to adjust afterwards. We don't. Then hire a good live-recording engineer to ride herd on the levels. One who knows how to mix in real time. Hint: TV talk show experience is a good sign. Peace, Paul
From: Tim Perry on 17 Jun 2008 20:05 > True, IF you have the time available to adjust afterwards. We don't. > > Mike D. Mike, for this I use an Aphex Compellor or a gated compressor set slow-med attack, slow release to emulate one. The dubbers, video guys, TV or radio guys I send to love it. The DEQ has lots of features and may work for this but I couldnt gaurentee it... I use one for main L/R and one for delay or mons. Lately I have been using Dynamic EQ to boost vocals on low passages. You will have to unlock stereo linking in utilities. You will lose the stereo width feature when you do this.
From: 0junk4me on 17 Jun 2008 20:27 On 2008-06-17 pstamlerhell(a)pobox.com said: >>we have anybody available to even edit if we wanted to. I have >other duties before >> and after the breakout sessions. >> > So you can turn the level way down so that yelling doesn't clip >anything, >Then hire a good live-recording engineer to ride herd on the levels. >One who knows how to mix in real time. Hint: TV talk show >experience is a good sign. I'd agree with Paul, nad I don't know which group you're actually reading, so I removed r.a.p. from the crosspost and just posted this to aapls. THis isn't rocket science MIke. IF you can't find somebody local that can do it, and you should, as the man says, hire somebody. I believe you're somewhere in the midwest. IF you really care about the live presentation and can't delegate some of the other jobs, then you need to hire somebody that's good at this. IF there's nobody you know of, tell us actually where this is going to take place. I'm sure there's somebody within a few hours' travel would be qualified and would be willing to work the event for reasonable pay at the end of the gig. I"ve done plenty of these sort of gigs over the years, and many without any signal processing other than manually riding gain. The recordings always turned out quite nicely for what they are, even in the old days of the cassette deck with agc. My goal was to keep the agc from pumping and keep the levels reasonably constant. Again, this isn't rocket science. YOu should be able to find somebody who's had enough experience. Radio and TV folks who've run the board for talking head programs have some experience here. Richard webb, replace anything before at with elspider
From: Mike Dobony on 17 Jun 2008 22:52 On 17 Jun 2008 15:27:42 -0400, Scott Dorsey wrote: > Mike Dobony <sword(a)notasarian-host.net> wrote: >>> It's sure a better world than when folks were using those Marantz cassette >>> decks for this kind of work, and living with the AGC pumping up and down >>> throughout the whole thing. >> >>True, IF you have the time available to adjust afterwards. We don't. > > If you're recording onto CF and then dumping the file to a CD on a PC, > the software on the PC should allow you to do that in the dumping process. > Once you get the parameters right, you just use the same batch command every > time. > Nope, a regular dedicated CD recorder > Otherwise, try an RNC in super-nice mode, which combines a soft knee at > low levels with a harder one at higher levels. > --scott
From: Mike Dobony on 17 Jun 2008 22:58
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:05:54 -0400, Tim Perry wrote: >> True, IF you have the time available to adjust afterwards. We don't. >> >> Mike D. > > Mike, for this I use an Aphex Compellor or a gated compressor set slow-med > attack, slow release to emulate one. The dubbers, video guys, TV or radio > guys I send to love it. > I saw a stand-alone compressor around here somewhere that was not being used. If I find it before the conference I might go ahead and use it. It would be much better than the simple one on the DEQ. > The DEQ has lots of features and may work for this but I couldnt gaurentee > it... I use one for main L/R and one for delay or mons. > Lately I have been using Dynamic EQ to boost vocals on low passages. > > You will have to unlock stereo linking in utilities. You will lose the > stereo width feature when you do this. I don't care about stereo. It is only speaking, so stereo has no benefit. I would Y out to the CD recorder unless it has a mono record feature. I still haven't seen it. |