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From: Ron(UK) on 19 Jun 2008 12:50 0junk4me(a)bellsouth.net wrote: > ROn wrote: > >Once again this man comes in asking for advice then argues with the > >seasoned professionals who don't tell him what he wants to hear. > I note he's talking about a 15 band graphic. IF you must > use a graphic nothing short of a 31 band is suitable for > live sound applications imho. > > WE must remember that this is the guy who said the most > important criteria for a sound guy for the church was his > religion. eVen if he had no ear and little aptitude for it. > YOu can google it up if you're that interested. MEanwhile, > I have this to say to this cross posting dunderhead. > > I think you`ll find that in this context, he`s not even talking about church business, but something to do with martial arts. Ron(UK)
From: 0junk4me on 19 Jun 2008 15:35 ROn wrote: >I think you`ll find that in this context, he`s not even talking >about church business, but something to do with martial arts. Already gathered that, but this is the same guy, and it seems that every solution the professionals give him is not one he wants to consider. tHe right electronic tool in the kit is a great thing, but sometimes the best tools we have at our disposal, especially at these sort of events, is our hands on the faders and those two appendages on the sides of our heads. Imho those are the most important tools in the business. Richard webb, replace anything before at with elspider
From: Joe L on 19 Jun 2008 16:04 <0junk4me(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:mLv6k.10060$Xe.3757(a)bignews1.bellsouth.net... > > ROn wrote: > >Once again this man comes in asking for advice then argues with the > >seasoned professionals who don't tell him what he wants to hear. > I note he's talking about a 15 band graphic. IF you must > use a graphic nothing short of a 31 band is suitable for > live sound applications imho. > > WE must remember that this is the guy who said the most > important criteria for a sound guy for the church was his > religion. eVen if he had no ear and little aptitude for it. > YOu can google it up if you're that interested. MEanwhile, > I have this to say to this cross posting dunderhead. > > <plunk> > > > >Ron(UK) > > > Richard webb, > replace anything before at with elspider > Reminds me of the old joke about a stranded couple, in a flood with rising waters. People kept coming by but the two would say "No thanks, the Lord will provide for us" turning away a canoe, a larger boat, and then a helicopter. They both drowned. In heaven they asked why they weren't saved, and God said "Well I tried. I sent 2 boats and a helicopter, what more did you need?". ;-) Maybe God does send soundmen to his church, they just don't recognize the need for them.;-P JL
From: Mike Dobony on 19 Jun 2008 18:13 On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:04:51 GMT, Joe L wrote: > <0junk4me(a)bellsouth.net> wrote in message > news:mLv6k.10060$Xe.3757(a)bignews1.bellsouth.net... >> >> ROn wrote: >> >Once again this man comes in asking for advice then argues with the >> >seasoned professionals who don't tell him what he wants to hear. >> I note he's talking about a 15 band graphic. IF you must >> use a graphic nothing short of a 31 band is suitable for >> live sound applications imho. >> >> WE must remember that this is the guy who said the most >> important criteria for a sound guy for the church was his >> religion. eVen if he had no ear and little aptitude for it. >> YOu can google it up if you're that interested. MEanwhile, >> I have this to say to this cross posting dunderhead. >> >> <plunk> >> >> >> >Ron(UK) >> >> >> Richard webb, >> replace anything before at with elspider >> > > Reminds me of the old joke about a stranded couple, in a flood with rising > waters. People kept coming by but the two would say "No thanks, the Lord > will provide for us" turning away a canoe, a larger boat, and then a > helicopter. They both drowned. In heaven they asked why they weren't > saved, and God said "Well I tried. I sent 2 boats and a helicopter, what > more did you need?". ;-) > > Maybe God does send soundmen to his church, they just don't recognize the > need for them.;-P > > JL The devil sends rebellious people to destroy the church. If you had an employee who did things he was not authorized to do what would you do with him? If someone demanded your employee to do things you did not authorize your employee to do, would you be happy? If my superiors gave me the authority to do what was recommended I would be happy to comply. To do what was recommended, though sound advice generally, when I was not authorized to do it would make me unfit to clean toilets, let alone run sound. Rebellion is the sin of witchcraft and makes one unfit to serve.
From: Mike Dobony on 19 Jun 2008 18:13
On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 18:15:14 GMT, Ron Capik wrote: > Mike Dobony wrote: > >> >> < .....snip... > >> >> These are NOT performers, but teachers. Sticking to "serious venues" is >> not an option. > > If they are teachers then they should also be learners, as > in they are (or at least should be) trainable. Don't sell them > short, give them some training. As for not being performers, > I believe teaching is very much a performance art. > Train them to do what? Avoid effective techniques because the technology doesn't allow it instead of using the effective, available technology that reduces the problems so that the teacher is not crippled? Also explain what this has to do with compression. > > Later... > > Ron Capik |