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From: BURT on 29 Nov 2009 20:46 On Nov 29, 5:42 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 29, 8:23 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Nov 29, 1:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >< Aether is an elastic medium and does not rest when displaced. It pushes back. When matter displaces the aether, the pressure the aether exerts back towards the matter is gravity. > > > > No, mpc; gravity isn't a pressure exerted ON an object. A > > "gravitational field" is a density gradient in the continuous material > > that you call "aether". (I call it "matter", As you say, it is the > > very same matter out of which atoms and molecules and the Earth etc > > are made.) As you said, it is an elastic medium with one active > > property: "It presses back". Accordingly, it exerts an outwardly > > directed pressure ("sorce"} from every needle-sharp point it fills, > > the denser the local medium is the stronger the reactive pressure will > > be. > > Given by the physics textbooks that "weight is a force", the > > "gravitational force", i,e, the weight of a given mass, is a function > > of two different things: A) the "shape" of the density gradient (grad > > d) of the field; B) the normal shape of the gradients of the atoms > > comprising that mass. (A mass is a quantity of matter, whether or not > > it has weight in a g-field. The "normal shape" of the gradient per > > atom means its shape when the atom is far from any g-field.) > > Because all local matter is part of any g-field, A and B govern the > > shape of the density gradient of any embedded atom. > > Since a g-field is always centered on a specifiable object, the > > gradient in embedded atoms will be steeper on the side toward that > > causative object. Given that the pressure increases as the density > > does, the net pressure that arises INSIDE embedded atoms will b toward > > the denser side of the grad d of the g-field; thus "downward" wrt > > Earth. > > > >< When a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit experiment, the displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether enters and exits multiple slits > > > > Yes, and as it transits a slit it is closer to one side than the > > other. Since the net gradient per wave decrease with the distance from > > its own center, so will the strength of its affects on the material > > comprising the wall. There will therefore be a local density gradient > > in the material filling the hole AND the matter comprising the wall. > > Given that the resistance is stronger on and in the denser zones, the > > path of each successive molecule and/or wave system that transits a > > slit will be affected accordingly.>[Einstein wrote} "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > > and matter is energy. >> > > > Energy is the ability to do work, possessed by and exerted upon > > matter. Work is mass times the distance it is moved. If matter could > > be converted into energy -- as physics now claims -- and ALL the > > matter in the universe so converted, the amount of mass that remained, > > thus the ability to do work, would be e = md = zero. > > The definition of energy was Ok; but the notion that matter can be > > converted into energy was baloney - in grams of weight, which is a > > force not a material. > > > glird > > The denser the local material is per volume, the stronger the reactive > aether pressure will be. > > The displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether exists > prior to the C-60 molecule entering a slit. The aether displacement > wave created by the C-60 molecule enters available slits. The observed > behaviors of a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule is more a > function of the moving C-60 molecule having an associated aether > displacement wave and this wave enters available slits than it is the > C-60 molecule affecting the material which separates the slits.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The aether wave of an atom is its vibration. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 29 Nov 2009 20:51 On Nov 29, 8:23 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Nov 29, 1:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >< Aether is an elastic medium and does not rest when displaced. It pushes back. When matter displaces the aether, the pressure the aether exerts back towards the matter is gravity. > > > No, mpc; gravity isn't a pressure exerted ON an object. A > "gravitational field" is a density gradient in the continuous material > that you call "aether". (I call it "matter", As you say, it is the > very same matter out of which atoms and molecules and the Earth etc > are made.) As you said, it is an elastic medium with one active > property: "It presses back". Accordingly, it exerts an outwardly > directed pressure ("sorce"} from every needle-sharp point it fills, > the denser the local medium is the stronger the reactive pressure will > be. > Given by the physics textbooks that "weight is a force", the > "gravitational force", i,e, the weight of a given mass, is a function > of two different things: A) the "shape" of the density gradient (grad > d) of the field; B) the normal shape of the gradients of the atoms > comprising that mass. (A mass is a quantity of matter, whether or not > it has weight in a g-field. The "normal shape" of the gradient per > atom means its shape when the atom is far from any g-field.) > Because all local matter is part of any g-field, A and B govern the > shape of the density gradient of any embedded atom. > Since a g-field is always centered on a specifiable object, the > gradient in embedded atoms will be steeper on the side toward that > causative object. Given that the pressure increases as the density > does, the net pressure that arises INSIDE embedded atoms will b toward > the denser side of the grad d of the g-field; thus "downward" wrt > Earth. > > >< When a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit experiment, the displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether enters and exits multiple slits > > > Yes, and as it transits a slit it is closer to one side than the > other. Since the net gradient per wave decrease with the distance from > its own center, so will the strength of its affects on the material > comprising the wall. There will therefore be a local density gradient > in the material filling the hole AND the matter comprising the wall. > Given that the resistance is stronger on and in the denser zones, the > path of each successive molecule and/or wave system that transits a > slit will be affected accordingly.>[Einstein wrote} "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > and matter is energy. >> > > Energy is the ability to do work, possessed by and exerted upon > matter. Work is mass times the distance it is moved. If matter could > be converted into energy -- as physics now claims -- and ALL the > matter in the universe so converted, the amount of mass that remained, > thus the ability to do work, would be e = md = zero. > The definition of energy was Ok; but the notion that matter can be > converted into energy was baloney - in grams of weight, which is a > force not a material. > > glird glird, The denser the local material is per volume, the stronger the reactive aether pressure will be. The displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether exists prior to the C-60 molecule entering a slit. The aether displacement wave created by the C-60 molecule enters available slits. The observed behaviors of a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule is more a function of the moving C-60 molecule having an associated aether displacement wave and this wave enters available slits than it is the C-60 molecule affecting the material which separates the slits. Thanks for adding value to this topic. mpc755
From: YBM on 29 Nov 2009 20:54 mpc755 wrote: > Thanks for adding value to this topic. He's not. Neither you are.
From: mpc755 on 29 Nov 2009 20:56 On Nov 29, 8:23 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Nov 29, 1:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >< Aether is an elastic medium and does not rest when displaced. It pushes back. When matter displaces the aether, the pressure the aether exerts back towards the matter is gravity. > > No, mpc; gravity isn't a pressure exerted ON an object. A > "gravitational field" is a density gradient in the continuous material > that you call "aether". (I call it "matter", As you say, it is the > very same matter out of which atoms and molecules and the Earth etc > are made.) As you said, it is an elastic medium with one active > property: "It presses back". Accordingly, it exerts an outwardly > directed pressure ("sorce"} from every needle-sharp point it fills, > the denser the local medium is the stronger the reactive pressure will > be. > Given by the physics textbooks that "weight is a force", the > "gravitational force", i,e, the weight of a given mass, is a function > of two different things: A) the "shape" of the density gradient (grad > d) of the field; B) the normal shape of the gradients of the atoms > comprising that mass. (A mass is a quantity of matter, whether or not > it has weight in a g-field. The "normal shape" of the gradient per > atom means its shape when the atom is far from any g-field.) > Because all local matter is part of any g-field, A and B govern the > shape of the density gradient of any embedded atom. > Since a g-field is always centered on a specifiable object, the > gradient in embedded atoms will be steeper on the side toward that > causative object. Given that the pressure increases as the density > does, the net pressure that arises INSIDE embedded atoms will b toward > the denser side of the grad d of the g-field; thus "downward" wrt > Earth. > >< When a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit experiment, the displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether enters and exits multiple slits > > Yes, and as it transits a slit it is closer to one side than the > other. Since the net gradient per wave decrease with the distance from > its own center, so will the strength of its affects on the material > comprising the wall. There will therefore be a local density gradient > in the material filling the hole AND the matter comprising the wall. > Given that the resistance is stronger on and in the denser zones, the > path of each successive molecule and/or wave system that transits a > slit will be affected accordingly.>[Einstein wrote} "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > and matter is energy. >> > Energy is the ability to do work, possessed by and exerted upon > matter. Work is mass times the distance it is moved. If matter could > be converted into energy -- as physics now claims -- and ALL the > matter in the universe so converted, the amount of mass that remained, > thus the ability to do work, would be e = md = zero. > The definition of energy was Ok; but the notion that matter can be > converted into energy was baloney - in grams of weight, which is a > force not a material. > glird glird, The denser the local material is per volume, the stronger the reactive aether pressure will be. The displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether exists prior to the C-60 molecule entering a slit. The aether displacement wave created by the C-60 molecule enters available slits. The observed behaviors of a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule is more a function of the moving C-60 molecule having an associated aether displacement wave and this wave enters available slits than it is the C-60 molecule affecting the material which separates the slits. Thanks for adding value to this topic. mpc755
From: BURT on 29 Nov 2009 22:55
On Nov 29, 5:56 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 29, 8:23 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Nov 29, 1:34 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >< Aether is an elastic medium and does not rest when displaced. It pushes back. When matter displaces the aether, the pressure the aether exerts back towards the matter is gravity. > > > No, mpc; gravity isn't a pressure exerted ON an object. A > > "gravitational field" is a density gradient in the continuous material > > that you call "aether". (I call it "matter", As you say, it is the > > very same matter out of which atoms and molecules and the Earth etc > > are made.) As you said, it is an elastic medium with one active > > property: "It presses back". Accordingly, it exerts an outwardly > > directed pressure ("sorce"} from every needle-sharp point it fills, > > the denser the local medium is the stronger the reactive pressure will > > be. > > Given by the physics textbooks that "weight is a force", the > > "gravitational force", i,e, the weight of a given mass, is a function > > of two different things: A) the "shape" of the density gradient (grad > > d) of the field; B) the normal shape of the gradients of the atoms > > comprising that mass. (A mass is a quantity of matter, whether or not > > it has weight in a g-field. The "normal shape" of the gradient per > > atom means its shape when the atom is far from any g-field.) > > Because all local matter is part of any g-field, A and B govern the > > shape of the density gradient of any embedded atom. > > Since a g-field is always centered on a specifiable object, the > > gradient in embedded atoms will be steeper on the side toward that > > causative object. Given that the pressure increases as the density > > does, the net pressure that arises INSIDE embedded atoms will b toward > > the denser side of the grad d of the g-field; thus "downward" wrt > > Earth. > > >< When a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit experiment, the displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether enters and exits multiple slits > > > Yes, and as it transits a slit it is closer to one side than the > > other. Since the net gradient per wave decrease with the distance from > > its own center, so will the strength of its affects on the material > > comprising the wall. There will therefore be a local density gradient > > in the material filling the hole AND the matter comprising the wall. > > Given that the resistance is stronger on and in the denser zones, the > > path of each successive molecule and/or wave system that transits a > > slit will be affected accordingly.>[Einstein wrote} "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > > and matter is energy. >> > > Energy is the ability to do work, possessed by and exerted upon > > matter. Work is mass times the distance it is moved. If matter could > > be converted into energy -- as physics now claims -- and ALL the > > matter in the universe so converted, the amount of mass that remained, > > thus the ability to do work, would be e = md = zero. > > The definition of energy was Ok; but the notion that matter can be > > converted into energy was baloney - in grams of weight, which is a > > force not a material. > > glird > > glird, > > The denser the local material is per volume, the stronger the reactive > aether pressure will be. > > The displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether exists > prior to the C-60 molecule entering a slit. The aether displacement > wave created by the C-60 molecule enters available slits. The observed > behaviors of a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule is more a > function of the moving C-60 molecule having an associated aether > displacement wave and this wave enters available slits than it is the > C-60 molecule affecting the material which separates the slits. > > Thanks for adding value to this topic. > > mpc755- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Aether flows over energy. Aether and energy are together with space in unification. Mitch Raemsch |