From: Huang on 8 Dec 2009 09:55 "according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether. According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time intervals in the physical sense." ----------------------------------------------------- Obviously, space is indeed a physical thing and it has measurable properties. Empty space can be measured in terms of length and time. These may be abstratc dimensions if you are doing mathematics, but they are physical dimensions when you are doing physics. Dimension is a physical thing which can be measured, quantified, qualified, reproduced, falsified, etc etc. Dimension IS a physical thing, and it can bend twist and deform, that's what gravity is, and also everything else. Most easily modellable using a combination of mathematics and conjetural modelling which is based on existential indeterminacy. Yes, it can be displaced, make waves, knots, whatever you like. It is indeed a medium of wave propagation, and is the most fundamental thing which really exists. It is the only thing which really exists.
From: mpc755 on 8 Dec 2009 10:02 On Dec 8, 9:55 am, Huang <huangxienc...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > "according to the general theory of relativity space is endowed with > physical qualities; in this sense, therefore, there exists an ether. > According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is > unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation > of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space > and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time > intervals in the physical sense." > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > Obviously, space is indeed a physical thing and it has measurable > properties. Empty space can be measured in terms of length and time. > These may be abstratc dimensions if you are doing mathematics, but > they are physical dimensions when you are doing physics. Dimension is > a physical thing which can be measured, quantified, qualified, > reproduced, falsified, etc etc. > > Dimension IS a physical thing, and it can bend twist and deform, > that's what gravity is, and also everything else. > > Most easily modellable using a combination of mathematics and > conjetural modelling which is based on existential indeterminacy. Yes, > it can be displaced, make waves, knots, whatever you like. It is > indeed a medium of wave propagation, and is the most fundamental thing > which really exists. It is the only thing which really exists. This thread is titled Aether Displacement for a reason. The only thing which really exists physically is matter. We label matter's base state aether. I thought you were going to provide a mathematical model for "Dimension Displacement Theory". Make sure when you do provide it, it works for both gravity waves and for a C-60 molecule in a double slit experiment.
From: PD on 8 Dec 2009 10:47 On Dec 7, 9:00 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 7, 8:23 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 7, 4:42 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Dec 7, 7:30 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 7, 4:28 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 7, 7:12 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Dec 7, 4:09 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Dec 7, 6:52 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Dec 7, 3:25 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 7, 6:13 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 7, 3:02 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 7, 5:35 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'Dimension' is mathematics, not nature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is absurd. Dimension is part of the continuity of everything. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dimension has direction. Up down,right left,front back > > > > > > > > > > > > If you think in terms of dimension you only have 6 directions in > > > > > > > > > > > > space. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > > > > > Dimension displaced by a moving body forms a wave doesn't cut-it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Aether displaced by a moving body forms a wave. > > > > > > > > > > > Did you know you are talking to yourself? > > > > > > > > > > I was responding to your reply of my post.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > But you are making up stuff about what is in your head. I cannot make > > > > > > > > hide not hair of it. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > Do you understand if the bow wave of a boat enters and exits two > > > > > > > slits, when the bow wave exits both slits, the waves will interfere > > > > > > > with each other? > > > > > > > > When a double slit experiment is performed with a C-60 molecule, the > > > > > > > displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether enters and > > > > > > > exits multiple slits and when the waves exit the slits they interfere > > > > > > > with each other. > > > > > > > > This interference alters the direction the C-60 molecule is traveling. > > > > > > > > Do you understand the above? > > > > > > > > You don't have to agree with it, but do you understand it? > > > > > > > > If you understand it but don't agree with it, you can stop posting on > > > > > > > this thread because the displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in > > > > > > > the aether is fundamental to Aether Displacement. > > > > > > > > If you don't understand it, what is it you do not understand?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > Understanding abounds here. > > > > > > Great, you understand Aether Displacement. > > > > > > This means you realize in Aether Displacement, a statement like > > > > > "aether flows over energy" is nonsense. > > > > > > This means you realize in Aether Displacement, the following is a > > > > > better description of energy: > > > > > > 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. > > > > > EINSTEIN'http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf > > > > > > "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass > > > > > diminishes by L/c2." > > > > > > The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer > > > > > exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as > > > > > aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three > > > > > dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether > > > > > and matter is energy.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > How does light go in and out of matter? > > > > Light propagates relative to the aether at 'c'. Aether is uncompressed > > > matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > I see you avoided the question. > > I had no idea what your question was and guess as to what it was you > were trying to say. > > I know this is not going to happen, but I would prefer it if you would > stop posting on this thread. He's been through this with you before. If you want control over who responds to your posts, try switching to a (free) blog.
From: mpc755 on 8 Dec 2009 10:57 The only thing we truly know physically exists throughout the universe is matter. Aether is matter's base state.
From: PD on 8 Dec 2009 11:17
On Dec 8, 9:57 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The only thing we truly know physically exists throughout the universe > is matter. Aether is matter's base state. That may be true about being the only thing YOU truly know exists. However, others are not so limited. |