From: mpc755 on 9 Dec 2009 09:18 On Dec 9, 5:56 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Dec 8, 7:57 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Aether is not at rest when displaced. It pushes back in an attempt to > > return to a state of rest. Displaced aether is the reason for the > > Casimir Effect. The displaced aether of each of the plates extends > > past the other plate. This displaced aether pushes back towards the > > plates causing the plates to come together. > > > 'Casimir effect'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect > > > "In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if > > space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and > > the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a > > ball from its rest position." > > > Now, if you remove the nonsense of vibrating balls and springs and > > replace them with aether, you have Aether Displacement. > > > The Sun displaces aether to the outer reaches of the solar system. > > This aether is pushing back towards the Sun, keeping the planets in > > orbit around the Sun. The Earth is following the path of least > > resistance. The Earth's momentum along with the Sun's displaced aether > > pushing back towards the Sun and the Earth's displaced aether interact > > and keep the Earth in orbit around the Sun. > > > The Earth displaces aether far past the Moon. This aether is pushing > > back towards the Earth, keeping the Moon in orbit around the Earth. > > The Moon is following the path of least resistance. > > This is just nonsense. And my question proves it. How is displacement > caused by mass stretching out into the distance? > > Mitch Raemsch What happens when you put a bowling ball into a tank of water? 'Casimir effect' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect "In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position." If you replace the vibrating balls and springs with them with aether, you have Aether Displacement.
From: mpc755 on 9 Dec 2009 09:21 On Dec 9, 5:56 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Dec 8, 7:57 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Aether is not at rest when displaced. It pushes back in an attempt to > > return to a state of rest. Displaced aether is the reason for the > > Casimir Effect. The displaced aether of each of the plates extends > > past the other plate. This displaced aether pushes back towards the > > plates causing the plates to come together. > > > 'Casimir effect'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect > > > "In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if > > space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and > > the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a > > ball from its rest position." > > > Now, if you remove the nonsense of vibrating balls and springs and > > replace them with aether, you have Aether Displacement. > > > The Sun displaces aether to the outer reaches of the solar system. > > This aether is pushing back towards the Sun, keeping the planets in > > orbit around the Sun. The Earth is following the path of least > > resistance. The Earth's momentum along with the Sun's displaced aether > > pushing back towards the Sun and the Earth's displaced aether interact > > and keep the Earth in orbit around the Sun. > > > The Earth displaces aether far past the Moon. This aether is pushing > > back towards the Earth, keeping the Moon in orbit around the Earth. > > The Moon is following the path of least resistance. > > This is just nonsense. And my question proves it. How is displacement > caused by mass stretching out into the distance? > > Mitch Raemsch What happens when you put a bowling ball into a tank of water? 'Casimir effect' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect "In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position." If you replace the vibrating balls and springs with aether, you have Aether Displacement.
From: PD on 9 Dec 2009 09:52 On Dec 8, 8:59 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > What is the form of an aether wave? > > A wave. Gotta love that answer.
From: mpc755 on 9 Dec 2009 10:10 On Dec 9, 5:56 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Dec 8, 7:57 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Aether is not at rest when displaced. It pushes back in an attempt to > > return to a state of rest. Displaced aether is the reason for the > > Casimir Effect. The displaced aether of each of the plates extends > > past the other plate. This displaced aether pushes back towards the > > plates causing the plates to come together. > > > 'Casimir effect'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect > > > "In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if > > space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and > > the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a > > ball from its rest position." > > > Now, if you remove the nonsense of vibrating balls and springs and > > replace them with aether, you have Aether Displacement. > > > The Sun displaces aether to the outer reaches of the solar system. > > This aether is pushing back towards the Sun, keeping the planets in > > orbit around the Sun. The Earth is following the path of least > > resistance. The Earth's momentum along with the Sun's displaced aether > > pushing back towards the Sun and the Earth's displaced aether interact > > and keep the Earth in orbit around the Sun. > > > The Earth displaces aether far past the Moon. This aether is pushing > > back towards the Earth, keeping the Moon in orbit around the Earth. > > The Moon is following the path of least resistance. > > This is just nonsense. And my question proves it. How is displacement > caused by mass stretching out into the distance? > > Mitch Raemsch What happens when you put a bowling ball into a tank of water? 'Casimir effect' http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect "In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position." If you replace the vibrating balls and springs with aether, you have Aether Displacement.
From: glird on 9 Dec 2009 12:22
On Dec 8, 4:15 pm, mpc755 wrote: On Dec 8, 1:49 pm, NoEinstein wrote: >< Dear glird: Your opening statement seems to say... "When ether is moved, it doesn't rest." (That's quite 'profound', but probably not what you thought you were saying.) Gravity, indeed, relates to what happens with the ether. {1} "Varying ether flow and density", even within matter, is the MECHANISM of gravity. {2} Matter doesn't displace ether {3}, it admits the ether in proportion to the internal loss of ether from light or heat emissions. {4} Flowing ether (gravity) is slowed in passing through matter in direct proportion to the atomic weight of the matter. {5} 1. YES. 2. No. 3. Wrong! Even an atom displaces the background matter, 4. Where did you get the idea that the emission of light or heat is associated with the internal loss of ether in the source-body? Even though that is correct!!! (see "the flower" - an equation for the value of Planck's quantum of action, h) it has nothing to do with ether flowing back. Indeed, if the amount of ether that flowed in was equal to the amount that flowed out, then neither light nor heat nor anything else would be emitted. 5. Every part of that statement is false. mpc: The 'aether is not at rest when displaced' is my statement, not glird's. glird and I have similar concepts about how aether (or if I can interpret glird's preferred description of 'empty space', 'matter in its base state') is displaced by matter. When you say, 'Flowing ether (gravity) is slowed down in passing through matter in direct proportion to the atomic weight of the matter', that is Aether Displacement. > It is false regardless of how it is said. Gravity is not an aether flow nor is it caused by aether flowing through or past particles. Indeed, in the dilute vacuum of outer space there is such an ENORMOUS number of atoms per square cm that there is no place where even a small unit such as a molecule could displace matter in its base (i.e. non-particulate) state. (Actually, at subatomic levels of size there is no such thing as a homogenous material. That's why Einstein was right in using deltax'/ delta/x instead of dx'/dx. It's also why, however, there is no such thing at any level of size as an inertially moving system! And THAT - believe it or not - is why the "Restricted" theory of relativity is and always was a figment of the imagination; while GR, which maps the structure and rates of actions at ALL levels of size, actually does fit physical reality. mpc: What happens to the aether in front of the C-60 molecule that is being 'slowed down' by the C-60 molecule? It is being displaced by the C-60 molecule. {1} Think about what you are saying as to 'Flowing ether is slowed down by passing through matter' and relate that to a boat and its bow wave. {2} If the boat had tiny holes drilled throughout it where some of the water was able to pass through the boat, the water which was 'slowed down' relative to the boat is the bow wave. {3} The same thing occurs when a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit experiment. Some small amount of aether may be flowing through the C-60 molecule, but the great majority of aether is being displaced by the moving C-60 molecule. {3a} In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit because it always exits a single slit {4} and it is the displacement wave (i.e. bow wave) the C-60 molecule creates in the aether which enters and exits multiple slits. (5) 1. When a molecule moves it displaces the material filling he local space. in the process of being displaced, the material flows around the molecule or any other discrete moving object. 2. Yes, that displaced material is analogous to a bow wave, but it had speeded up rather than slowed down in the process of passing the boat. On the atomic scale of size, there are several other things that happen as a consequence of that process. One is that the density changes in the displaced matter and as that happens so does the pressure. Another is that the direction of a vector representing the pressure against the sides of a moving object has 2 components, one perpendicular to the surface and the other aslant. Therefore the net pressure against the surface of a displacing object will have dropped, compared to the wider field, so matter will be pushed toward that surface from BOTH sides, the outside and the inside. THAT is the mechanism by which atoms form. 3. A molecule has no holes. It has a surface tension layer that is denser than that of the material it surrounds and FAR denser than the outside material through which it is able to move. 3a. ALL of the surrounding ether is displaced. Even so, because all matter is compressible, the amount of that displacement per unit volume rapidly decreases as the distance from the displacing surface increases. 4. At best, the word "always" renders that entire sentence a tautology. {At worst, if "the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit because it always exits a single slit" then "In Aether Displacement" is irrelevant.} 5. Yes, but... glird |