From: mpc755 on
On Dec 9, 5:56 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 8, 7:57 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Aether is not at rest when displaced. It pushes back in an attempt to
> > return to a state of rest. Displaced aether is the reason for the
> > Casimir Effect. The displaced aether of each of the plates extends
> > past the other plate. This displaced aether pushes back towards the
> > plates causing the plates to come together.
>
> > 'Casimir effect'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect
>
> > "In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if
> > space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and
> > the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a
> > ball from its rest position."
>
> > Now, if you remove the nonsense of vibrating balls and springs and
> > replace them with aether, you have Aether Displacement.
>
> > The Sun displaces aether to the outer reaches of the solar system.
> > This aether is pushing back towards the Sun, keeping the planets in
> > orbit around the Sun. The Earth is following the path of least
> > resistance. The Earth's momentum along with the Sun's displaced aether
> > pushing back towards the Sun and the Earth's displaced aether interact
> > and keep the Earth in orbit around the Sun.
>
> > The Earth displaces aether far past the Moon. This aether is pushing
> > back towards the Earth, keeping the Moon in orbit around the Earth.
> > The Moon is following the path of least resistance.
>
> This is just nonsense. And my question proves it. How is displacement
> caused by mass stretching out into the distance?
>
> Mitch Raemsch

What happens when you put a bowling ball into a tank of water?

'Casimir effect'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect

"In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if
space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and
the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a
ball from its rest position."

If you replace the vibrating balls and springs with them with aether,
you have Aether Displacement.
From: mpc755 on
On Dec 9, 5:56 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 8, 7:57 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Aether is not at rest when displaced. It pushes back in an attempt to
> > return to a state of rest. Displaced aether is the reason for the
> > Casimir Effect. The displaced aether of each of the plates extends
> > past the other plate. This displaced aether pushes back towards the
> > plates causing the plates to come together.
>
> > 'Casimir effect'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect
>
> > "In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if
> > space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and
> > the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a
> > ball from its rest position."
>
> > Now, if you remove the nonsense of vibrating balls and springs and
> > replace them with aether, you have Aether Displacement.
>
> > The Sun displaces aether to the outer reaches of the solar system.
> > This aether is pushing back towards the Sun, keeping the planets in
> > orbit around the Sun. The Earth is following the path of least
> > resistance. The Earth's momentum along with the Sun's displaced aether
> > pushing back towards the Sun and the Earth's displaced aether interact
> > and keep the Earth in orbit around the Sun.
>
> > The Earth displaces aether far past the Moon. This aether is pushing
> > back towards the Earth, keeping the Moon in orbit around the Earth.
> > The Moon is following the path of least resistance.
>
> This is just nonsense. And my question proves it. How is displacement
> caused by mass stretching out into the distance?
>
> Mitch Raemsch

What happens when you put a bowling ball into a tank of water?

'Casimir effect'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect

"In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if
space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and
the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a
ball from its rest position."

If you replace the vibrating balls and springs with aether, you have
Aether Displacement.
From: PD on
On Dec 8, 8:59 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > What is the form of an aether wave?
>
> A wave.

Gotta love that answer.

From: mpc755 on
On Dec 9, 5:56 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 8, 7:57 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Aether is not at rest when displaced. It pushes back in an attempt to
> > return to a state of rest. Displaced aether is the reason for the
> > Casimir Effect. The displaced aether of each of the plates extends
> > past the other plate. This displaced aether pushes back towards the
> > plates causing the plates to come together.
>
> > 'Casimir effect'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect
>
> > "In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if
> > space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and
> > the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a
> > ball from its rest position."
>
> > Now, if you remove the nonsense of vibrating balls and springs and
> > replace them with aether, you have Aether Displacement.
>
> > The Sun displaces aether to the outer reaches of the solar system.
> > This aether is pushing back towards the Sun, keeping the planets in
> > orbit around the Sun. The Earth is following the path of least
> > resistance. The Earth's momentum along with the Sun's displaced aether
> > pushing back towards the Sun and the Earth's displaced aether interact
> > and keep the Earth in orbit around the Sun.
>
> > The Earth displaces aether far past the Moon. This aether is pushing
> > back towards the Earth, keeping the Moon in orbit around the Earth.
> > The Moon is following the path of least resistance.
>
> This is just nonsense. And my question proves it. How is displacement
> caused by mass stretching out into the distance?
>
> Mitch Raemsch

What happens when you put a bowling ball into a tank of water?

'Casimir effect'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect

"In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if
space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and
the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a
ball from its rest position."

If you replace the vibrating balls and springs with aether, you have
Aether Displacement.
From: glird on
On Dec 8, 4:15 pm, mpc755 wrote:
On Dec 8, 1:49 pm, NoEinstein wrote:
>< Dear glird: Your opening statement seems to say...
"When ether is moved, it doesn't rest." (That's quite 'profound',
but probably not what you thought you were saying.) Gravity, indeed,
relates to what happens with the ether. {1} "Varying ether flow and
density", even within matter, is the MECHANISM of gravity. {2} Matter
doesn't displace ether {3}, it admits the ether in proportion to the
internal loss of ether from light or heat emissions. {4} Flowing ether
(gravity) is slowed in passing through matter in direct proportion to
the atomic weight of the matter. {5}

1. YES.
2. No.
3. Wrong! Even an atom displaces the background matter,
4. Where did you get the idea that the emission of light or heat is
associated with the internal loss of ether in the source-body? Even
though that is correct!!! (see "the flower" - an equation for the
value of Planck's quantum of action, h) it has nothing to do with
ether flowing back. Indeed, if the amount of ether that flowed in was
equal to the amount that flowed out, then neither light nor heat nor
anything else would be emitted.
5. Every part of that statement is false.

mpc: The 'aether is not at rest when displaced' is my statement, not
glird's. glird and I have similar concepts about how aether (or if I
can interpret glird's preferred description of 'empty space', 'matter
in its base state') is displaced by matter.
When you say, 'Flowing ether (gravity) is slowed down in passing
through matter in direct proportion to the atomic weight of the
matter', that is Aether Displacement. >

It is false regardless of how it is said.
Gravity is not an aether flow nor is it caused by aether flowing
through or past particles. Indeed, in the dilute vacuum of outer space
there is such an ENORMOUS number of atoms per square cm that there is
no place where even a small unit such as a molecule could displace
matter in its base (i.e. non-particulate) state.
(Actually, at subatomic levels of size there is no such thing as a
homogenous material. That's why Einstein was right in using deltax'/
delta/x instead of dx'/dx. It's also why, however, there is no such
thing at any level of size as an inertially moving system!
And THAT - believe it or not - is why the "Restricted" theory of
relativity is and always was a figment of the imagination; while GR,
which maps the structure and rates of actions at ALL levels of size,
actually does fit physical reality.

mpc: What happens to the aether in front of the C-60 molecule that is
being 'slowed down' by the C-60 molecule? It is being displaced by the
C-60 molecule. {1}
Think about what you are saying as to 'Flowing ether is slowed down
by passing through matter' and relate that to a boat and its bow wave.
{2} If the boat had tiny holes drilled throughout it where some of the
water was able to pass through the boat, the water which was 'slowed
down'
relative to the boat is the bow wave. {3}
The same thing occurs when a C-60 molecule is used in a double slit
experiment. Some small amount of aether may be flowing through the
C-60 molecule, but the great majority of aether is being displaced by
the moving C-60 molecule. {3a}
In Aether Displacement, the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting
a single slit because it always exits a single slit {4} and it is the
displacement wave (i.e. bow wave) the C-60 molecule creates in the
aether which enters and exits multiple slits. (5)

1. When a molecule moves it displaces the material filling he local
space. in the process of being displaced, the material flows around
the molecule or any other discrete moving object.
2. Yes, that displaced material is analogous to a bow wave, but it had
speeded up rather than slowed down in the process of passing the
boat.
On the atomic scale of size, there are several other things that
happen as a consequence of that process. One is that the density
changes in the displaced matter and as that happens so does the
pressure. Another is that the direction of a vector representing the
pressure against the sides of a moving object has 2 components, one
perpendicular to the surface and the other aslant. Therefore the net
pressure against the surface of a displacing object will have dropped,
compared to the wider field, so matter will be pushed toward that
surface from BOTH sides, the outside and the inside. THAT is the
mechanism by which atoms form.
3. A molecule has no holes.
It has a surface tension layer that is denser than that of the
material it surrounds and FAR denser than the outside material through
which it is able to move.
3a. ALL of the surrounding ether is displaced. Even so, because all
matter is compressible, the amount of that displacement per unit
volume rapidly decreases as the distance from the displacing surface
increases.
4. At best, the word "always" renders that entire sentence a
tautology. {At worst, if "the C-60 molecule is always detected
exiting a single slit because it always exits a single slit" then "In
Aether Displacement" is irrelevant.}
5. Yes, but...

glird