From: BURT on
On Dec 9, 7:51 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 9, 10:45 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > > What happens when you put a bowling ball into a tank of water?
>
> > I ask you to fish it out.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> What happens when you fish the bowling ball out of the tank of water?
> Is a void left behind or does the water 'displace back'?

Your point is that aether moves?
My point is it flowing over and through energy of particle and light.

>
> When discussing the concept of the Sun 'curving' 'spacetime', what is
> being curved? It cannot be three dimensional space because the Sun now
> occupies that three dimensional space and in terms of three
> dimensional space, nothing has changed.
>
> So, the Sun is 'curving' something. The Sun is 'curving' something
> physical. The Sun is 'curving' some kind of stuff.

Geometry begins at its center.

>
> Aether, quantum foam, plenum,... are all labels placed on the 'stuff
> of space'.
>
> Yes, aether has a lot of baggage, but it is what it is.

Evidently it has a bowling ball.

>
> And 'displaced' is a better concept than 'curved'.

Curved is round geometry that is universal.

>
> Displaced not only works for 'curved' spacetime, but also works for
> the observed behaviors of a double slit experiment with C-60
> molecules. The moving C-60 molecule displaces aether which forms a
> wave, just like a boat creates a bow wave in water.
>
> So, it's Aether Displacement.
>
> Aether Displacement: The most correct physical unified theory to date.
From: mpc755 on
When discussing the concept of the Sun 'curving' 'spacetime', what is
being curved? It cannot be three dimensional space because the Sun now
occupies that three dimensional space and in terms of three
dimensional space, nothing has changed.

So, the Sun is 'curving' something. The Sun is 'curving' something
physical. The Sun is 'curving' some kind of stuff.

Aether, quantum foam, plenum,... are all labels placed on the 'stuff
of space'.

Yes, aether has a lot of baggage, but it is what it is.

And 'displaced' is a better concept than 'curved'.

Displaced not only works for 'curved' spacetime, but also works for
the observed behaviors of a double slit experiment with C-60
molecules. The moving C-60 molecule displaces aether which forms a
wave, just like a boat creates a bow wave in water.

So, it's Aether Displacement.

Aether Displacement: The most correct physical unified theory to date.
From: mpc755 on
When discussing the concept of the Sun 'curving' 'spacetime', what is
being curved? It cannot be three dimensional space because the Sun now
occupies that three dimensional space and in terms of three
dimensional space, nothing has changed.

So, the Sun is 'curving' something. The Sun is 'curving' something
physical. The Sun is 'curving' some kind of stuff.

Aether, quantum foam, plenum,... are all labels placed on the 'stuff
of space'.

Yes, aether has a lot of baggage, but it is what it is.

And 'displaced' is a better concept than 'curved'.

Displaced not only works for 'curved' spacetime, but also works for
the observed behaviors of a double slit experiment with C-60
molecules. The moving C-60 molecule displaces aether which forms a
wave, just like a boat creates a bow wave in water.

'Casimir effect'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect

"In a simplified view, a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if
space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and
the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a
ball from its rest position."

Should read:

A "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with
aether, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the
displacement of the aether from its rest position.

Aether Displacement: The most correct physical unified theory to date.
From: Huang on
On Dec 9, 11:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> When discussing the concept of the Sun 'curving' 'spacetime', what is
> being curved? It cannot be three dimensional space because the Sun now
> occupies that three dimensional space and in terms of three
> dimensional space, nothing has changed.


Empty space is comprised of the dimensions of Length and Time. That is
what exists physically when you have a region of empty space.
Dimension is curved, distorted, bent - by GR.

Minkowski space. It is dimension, and it is physical.


> A "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with
> aether, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the
> displacement of the aether from its rest position.
>
> Aether Displacement: The most correct physical unified theory to date.


A field can describe many things, including the potential to exist.
Consider a PDF, and consider that it describes an existential
potential. The PDF can evolve over time pretty easily - and that is
how you model space as if it were a fluid.


BUT !!

You must remember from GR you have this thing called equivalence. If
you are accelerating in a rocket, or if you are stationary in a
gravitational field - these are equivalent.

The SAME exact thing happens in QM - in my opinion.
Schroedinger wave equation may be regarded as giving the probability
of finding a particle in a given region. OR it may also be regarded as
modelling the bending of space. These too are equivalent, and for the
same reasons that you have equivalence in GR.

That is the way space behaves.











From: mpc755 on
On Dec 10, 9:51 am, Huang <huangxienc...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Dec 9, 11:46 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > When discussing the concept of the Sun 'curving' 'spacetime', what is
> > being curved? It cannot be three dimensional space because the Sun now
> > occupies that three dimensional space and in terms of three
> > dimensional space, nothing has changed.
>
> Empty space is comprised of the dimensions of Length and Time. That is
> what exists physically when you have a region of empty space.
> Dimension is curved, distorted, bent - by GR.
>
> Minkowski space. It is dimension, and it is physical.
>
> > A "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with
> > aether, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the
> > displacement of the aether from its rest position.
>
> > Aether Displacement: The most correct physical unified theory to date.
>
> A field can describe many things, including the potential to exist.
> Consider a PDF, and consider that it describes an existential
> potential. The PDF can evolve over time pretty easily - and that is
> how you model space as if it were a fluid.
>
> BUT !!
>
> You must remember from GR you have this thing called equivalence. If
> you are accelerating in a rocket, or if you are stationary in a
> gravitational field - these are equivalent.
>
> The SAME exact thing happens in QM - in my opinion.
> Schroedinger wave equation may be regarded as giving the probability
> of finding a particle in a given region. OR it may also be regarded as
> modelling the bending of space. These too are equivalent, and for the
> same reasons that you have equivalence in GR.
>
> That is the way space behaves.

'Displaced' is a better term when describing the 'bending' or
'curving' of space. And 'aether' is a better term when describing what
is being displaced because 'space' (as in three dimensional space) is
a mathematical construct. Matter physically displaces the aether.

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html

"According to the general theory of relativity space without ether is
unthinkable; for in such space there not only would be no propagation
of light, but also no possibility of existence for standards of space
and time (measuring-rods and clocks), nor therefore any space-time
intervals in the physical sense."

Therefore:

A "field" in physics is space filled with aether, and the strength of
the field is the displacement of the aether from its rest position.