Aether Displacement is the most correct physical unified theory to date
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From: glird on 2 Dec 2009 13:16 On Dec 1, 10:05 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Nov 30, 10:40 am, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 30, 6:01 am, mpc755 wrote: > > >< glird, > > The denser the local material is per volume, the stronger the > > reactive aether pressure will be. > > > Yes. > > >< The displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether exists prior to the C-60 molecule entering a slit.> > > Yes. (The molecule travels far slower than the wave, which travels > > in air at c.) > > ><The aether displacement wave created by the C-60 molecule enters available slits. The observed behaviors of a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule is more a > > function of the moving C-60 molecule having an associated aether > > displacement wave and this wave enters available slits than it is the > > C-60 molecule affecting the material which separates the slits. > > > Yes; BUT the molecule also affects the material filling the slit and > > that of the wall. In effect, the wall becomes asymmetrically charged. > > It is stronger on one side of the slit and the walls than in and on > > the other. > > Although that has a negligible affect on subsequent wave systems, it > > has a measurable affect on the relatively slow moving molecules that > > subsequently traverse each slit. THAT'S what causes the resulting > > pattern that appears in such experiments. > > glird > > I disagree with the last sentence. The C-60 molecule interacting with > the single slit could be shown to be incorrect by placing a barrier in > front of one of the slits. Send the C-60 molecule multiple times > through the unblocked slit. Then switch which slit is blocked and re- > execute the test so the C-60 molecule enters and exits the other slit, > which is now unblocked, multiple times. There will not be an > interference pattern because the displacement wave was not allowed to > physically enter and exit the available slits, create interference, > and alter the direction the C-60 molecule travels. > > The distance the slits are apart will effect the pattern. > > The red and blue lines in the image on the right here represents the > paths the photon wave travels:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experi... > > The photon wave is physically traveling the available paths and when > the red and blue paths are combined, interference occurs, altering the > direction the photon 'particle' travels. This is misinterpreted as > something is being erased. > > Something similar is occurring when a C-60 molecule is used in a > double slit experiment. The displacement wave the C-60 molecule > creates in the aether physically enters and exits the available slits, > creating interference, altering the direction the C-60 molecule > travels. This is functionally the same as a boat and its bow wave. If > there is only a single slit the bow wave the boat is creating will not > greatly alter the direction the boat is traveling upon exiting the > slit. If there are multiple slits, the bow wave enters and exits the > multiple slits. The bow waves exiting the slits the boat does not > travel through will cross out ahead of the boat's path and interfere > with the bow waves exiting the other slits, including the bow wave > riding out ahead of and along with the boat through the slit the boat > travels through, and alter the direction the boat travels. You may be right. :-) glird
From: mpc755 on 2 Dec 2009 14:00 On Dec 2, 1:16 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Dec 1, 10:05 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 30, 10:40 am, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > On Nov 30, 6:01 am, mpc755 wrote: > > > >< glird, > > > The denser the local material is per volume, the stronger the > > > reactive aether pressure will be. > > > > Yes. > > > >< The displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether exists prior to the C-60 molecule entering a slit.> > > > Yes. (The molecule travels far slower than the wave, which travels > > > in air at c.) > > > ><The aether displacement wave created by the C-60 molecule enters available slits. The observed behaviors of a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule is more a > > > function of the moving C-60 molecule having an associated aether > > > displacement wave and this wave enters available slits than it is the > > > C-60 molecule affecting the material which separates the slits. > > > > Yes; BUT the molecule also affects the material filling the slit and > > > that of the wall. In effect, the wall becomes asymmetrically charged. > > > It is stronger on one side of the slit and the walls than in and on > > > the other. > > > Although that has a negligible affect on subsequent wave systems, it > > > has a measurable affect on the relatively slow moving molecules that > > > subsequently traverse each slit. THAT'S what causes the resulting > > > pattern that appears in such experiments. > > > glird > > > I disagree with the last sentence. The C-60 molecule interacting with > > the single slit could be shown to be incorrect by placing a barrier in > > front of one of the slits. Send the C-60 molecule multiple times > > through the unblocked slit. Then switch which slit is blocked and re- > > execute the test so the C-60 molecule enters and exits the other slit, > > which is now unblocked, multiple times. There will not be an > > interference pattern because the displacement wave was not allowed to > > physically enter and exit the available slits, create interference, > > and alter the direction the C-60 molecule travels. > > > The distance the slits are apart will effect the pattern. > > > The red and blue lines in the image on the right here represents the > > paths the photon wave travels:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experi... > > > The photon wave is physically traveling the available paths and when > > the red and blue paths are combined, interference occurs, altering the > > direction the photon 'particle' travels. This is misinterpreted as > > something is being erased. > > > Something similar is occurring when a C-60 molecule is used in a > > double slit experiment. The displacement wave the C-60 molecule > > creates in the aether physically enters and exits the available slits, > > creating interference, altering the direction the C-60 molecule > > travels. This is functionally the same as a boat and its bow wave. If > > there is only a single slit the bow wave the boat is creating will not > > greatly alter the direction the boat is traveling upon exiting the > > slit. If there are multiple slits, the bow wave enters and exits the > > multiple slits. The bow waves exiting the slits the boat does not > > travel through will cross out ahead of the boat's path and interfere > > with the bow waves exiting the other slits, including the bow wave > > riding out ahead of and along with the boat through the slit the boat > > travels through, and alter the direction the boat travels. > > You may be right. :-) > > glird There is no right or wrong. Only correct and incorrect. Right and wrong are final. Correct and incorrect can change as experimental evidence is re-evaluated (like delayed choice experiments better interpreted as physical waves in the aether traveling available paths). What we need is evidence of physical waves in the aether traveling available paths. We need a modified version of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experiment Where the downgraded mirror-image photons interact in such a way that the aether wave of one photon (not containing the photon 'particle') interacts with the aether wave of the other photon (containing the photon 'particle') and an interference pattern occurs. What has to happen is the photon 'particle' of one of the photons needs to be detected and the photon 'particle' of the other photon needs not to be detected. The photon aether wave of the detected photon and the photon aether wave (along with the photon 'particle') of the other photon are combined. An interference pattern should still be created in this scenario. I know of no way QM could account for this because after the one photon 'particle' is detected, that is it. There is no associated aether wave and the other photon 'particle' has nothing to interfere with so an interference pattern should not be created. Now of course, since QM is very incorrect, something will be made up about delayed choice or erasers or some other such nonsense. But, this experiment will be more evidence of physical waves in the aether traveling available paths. Thanks!
From: BURT on 2 Dec 2009 15:37 On Dec 2, 11:00 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 2, 1:16 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Dec 1, 10:05 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Nov 30, 10:40 am, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 30, 6:01 am, mpc755 wrote: > > > > >< glird, > > > > The denser the local material is per volume, the stronger the > > > > reactive aether pressure will be. > > > > > Yes. > > > > >< The displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether exists prior to the C-60 molecule entering a slit.> > > > > Yes. (The molecule travels far slower than the wave, which travels > > > > in air at c.) > > > > ><The aether displacement wave created by the C-60 molecule enters available slits. The observed behaviors of a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule is more a > > > > function of the moving C-60 molecule having an associated aether > > > > displacement wave and this wave enters available slits than it is the > > > > C-60 molecule affecting the material which separates the slits. > > > > > Yes; BUT the molecule also affects the material filling the slit and > > > > that of the wall. In effect, the wall becomes asymmetrically charged. > > > > It is stronger on one side of the slit and the walls than in and on > > > > the other. > > > > Although that has a negligible affect on subsequent wave systems, it > > > > has a measurable affect on the relatively slow moving molecules that > > > > subsequently traverse each slit. THAT'S what causes the resulting > > > > pattern that appears in such experiments. > > > > glird > > > > I disagree with the last sentence. The C-60 molecule interacting with > > > the single slit could be shown to be incorrect by placing a barrier in > > > front of one of the slits. Send the C-60 molecule multiple times > > > through the unblocked slit. Then switch which slit is blocked and re- > > > execute the test so the C-60 molecule enters and exits the other slit, > > > which is now unblocked, multiple times. There will not be an > > > interference pattern because the displacement wave was not allowed to > > > physically enter and exit the available slits, create interference, > > > and alter the direction the C-60 molecule travels. > > > > The distance the slits are apart will effect the pattern. > > > > The red and blue lines in the image on the right here represents the > > > paths the photon wave travels:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experi... > > > > The photon wave is physically traveling the available paths and when > > > the red and blue paths are combined, interference occurs, altering the > > > direction the photon 'particle' travels. This is misinterpreted as > > > something is being erased. > > > > Something similar is occurring when a C-60 molecule is used in a > > > double slit experiment. The displacement wave the C-60 molecule > > > creates in the aether physically enters and exits the available slits, > > > creating interference, altering the direction the C-60 molecule > > > travels. This is functionally the same as a boat and its bow wave. If > > > there is only a single slit the bow wave the boat is creating will not > > > greatly alter the direction the boat is traveling upon exiting the > > > slit. If there are multiple slits, the bow wave enters and exits the > > > multiple slits. The bow waves exiting the slits the boat does not > > > travel through will cross out ahead of the boat's path and interfere > > > with the bow waves exiting the other slits, including the bow wave > > > riding out ahead of and along with the boat through the slit the boat > > > travels through, and alter the direction the boat travels. > > > You may be right. :-) > > > glird > > There is no right or wrong. Only correct and incorrect. Right and > wrong are final. Correct and incorrect can change as experimental > evidence is re-evaluated (like delayed choice experiments better > interpreted as physical waves in the aether traveling available > paths). > > What we need is evidence of physical waves in the aether traveling > available paths. > > We need a modified version of:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experi... > > Where the downgraded mirror-image photons interact in such a way that > the aether wave of one photon (not containing the photon 'particle') > interacts with the aether wave of the other photon (containing the > photon 'particle') and an interference pattern occurs. > > What has to happen is the photon 'particle' of one of the photons > needs to be detected and the photon 'particle' of the other photon > needs not to be detected. The photon aether wave of the detected > photon and the photon aether wave (along with the photon 'particle') > of the other photon are combined. > > An interference pattern should still be created in this scenario. > > I know of no way QM could account for this because after the one > photon 'particle' is detected, that is it. There is no associated > aether wave and the other photon 'particle' has nothing to interfere > with so an interference pattern should not be created. > > Now of course, since QM is very incorrect, something will be made up > about delayed choice or erasers or some other such nonsense. But, this > experiment will be more evidence of physical waves in the aether > traveling available paths. > > Thanks!- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Einstein was the right one about Quantum Mechanics. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 2 Dec 2009 17:30 On Dec 2, 3:37 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Dec 2, 11:00 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 2, 1:16 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > On Dec 1, 10:05 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Nov 30, 10:40 am, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Nov 30, 6:01 am, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > >< glird, > > > > > The denser the local material is per volume, the stronger the > > > > > reactive aether pressure will be. > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > >< The displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether exists prior to the C-60 molecule entering a slit.> > > > > > Yes. (The molecule travels far slower than the wave, which travels > > > > > in air at c.) > > > > > ><The aether displacement wave created by the C-60 molecule enters available slits. The observed behaviors of a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule is more a > > > > > function of the moving C-60 molecule having an associated aether > > > > > displacement wave and this wave enters available slits than it is the > > > > > C-60 molecule affecting the material which separates the slits. > > > > > > Yes; BUT the molecule also affects the material filling the slit and > > > > > that of the wall. In effect, the wall becomes asymmetrically charged. > > > > > It is stronger on one side of the slit and the walls than in and on > > > > > the other. > > > > > Although that has a negligible affect on subsequent wave systems, it > > > > > has a measurable affect on the relatively slow moving molecules that > > > > > subsequently traverse each slit. THAT'S what causes the resulting > > > > > pattern that appears in such experiments. > > > > > glird > > > > > I disagree with the last sentence. The C-60 molecule interacting with > > > > the single slit could be shown to be incorrect by placing a barrier in > > > > front of one of the slits. Send the C-60 molecule multiple times > > > > through the unblocked slit. Then switch which slit is blocked and re- > > > > execute the test so the C-60 molecule enters and exits the other slit, > > > > which is now unblocked, multiple times. There will not be an > > > > interference pattern because the displacement wave was not allowed to > > > > physically enter and exit the available slits, create interference, > > > > and alter the direction the C-60 molecule travels. > > > > > The distance the slits are apart will effect the pattern. > > > > > The red and blue lines in the image on the right here represents the > > > > paths the photon wave travels:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experi... > > > > > The photon wave is physically traveling the available paths and when > > > > the red and blue paths are combined, interference occurs, altering the > > > > direction the photon 'particle' travels. This is misinterpreted as > > > > something is being erased. > > > > > Something similar is occurring when a C-60 molecule is used in a > > > > double slit experiment. The displacement wave the C-60 molecule > > > > creates in the aether physically enters and exits the available slits, > > > > creating interference, altering the direction the C-60 molecule > > > > travels. This is functionally the same as a boat and its bow wave. If > > > > there is only a single slit the bow wave the boat is creating will not > > > > greatly alter the direction the boat is traveling upon exiting the > > > > slit. If there are multiple slits, the bow wave enters and exits the > > > > multiple slits. The bow waves exiting the slits the boat does not > > > > travel through will cross out ahead of the boat's path and interfere > > > > with the bow waves exiting the other slits, including the bow wave > > > > riding out ahead of and along with the boat through the slit the boat > > > > travels through, and alter the direction the boat travels. > > > > You may be right. :-) > > > > glird > > > There is no right or wrong. Only correct and incorrect. Right and > > wrong are final. Correct and incorrect can change as experimental > > evidence is re-evaluated (like delayed choice experiments better > > interpreted as physical waves in the aether traveling available > > paths). > > > What we need is evidence of physical waves in the aether traveling > > available paths. > > > We need a modified version of:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experi... > > > Where the downgraded mirror-image photons interact in such a way that > > the aether wave of one photon (not containing the photon 'particle') > > interacts with the aether wave of the other photon (containing the > > photon 'particle') and an interference pattern occurs. > > > What has to happen is the photon 'particle' of one of the photons > > needs to be detected and the photon 'particle' of the other photon > > needs not to be detected. The photon aether wave of the detected > > photon and the photon aether wave (along with the photon 'particle') > > of the other photon are combined. > > > An interference pattern should still be created in this scenario. > > > I know of no way QM could account for this because after the one > > photon 'particle' is detected, that is it. There is no associated > > aether wave and the other photon 'particle' has nothing to interfere > > with so an interference pattern should not be created. > > > Now of course, since QM is very incorrect, something will be made up > > about delayed choice or erasers or some other such nonsense. But, this > > experiment will be more evidence of physical waves in the aether > > traveling available paths. > > > Thanks!- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Einstein was the right one about Quantum Mechanics. > > Mitch Raemsch Yes, it is incomplete.
From: BURT on 2 Dec 2009 21:49
On Dec 2, 2:30 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 2, 3:37 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Dec 2, 11:00 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Dec 2, 1:16 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 1, 10:05 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Nov 30, 10:40 am, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Nov 30, 6:01 am, mpc755 wrote: > > > > > > >< glird, > > > > > > The denser the local material is per volume, the stronger the > > > > > > reactive aether pressure will be. > > > > > > > Yes. > > > > > > >< The displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the aether exists prior to the C-60 molecule entering a slit.> > > > > > > Yes. (The molecule travels far slower than the wave, which travels > > > > > > in air at c.) > > > > > > ><The aether displacement wave created by the C-60 molecule enters available slits. The observed behaviors of a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule is more a > > > > > > function of the moving C-60 molecule having an associated aether > > > > > > displacement wave and this wave enters available slits than it is the > > > > > > C-60 molecule affecting the material which separates the slits. > > > > > > > Yes; BUT the molecule also affects the material filling the slit and > > > > > > that of the wall. In effect, the wall becomes asymmetrically charged. > > > > > > It is stronger on one side of the slit and the walls than in and on > > > > > > the other. > > > > > > Although that has a negligible affect on subsequent wave systems, it > > > > > > has a measurable affect on the relatively slow moving molecules that > > > > > > subsequently traverse each slit. THAT'S what causes the resulting > > > > > > pattern that appears in such experiments. > > > > > > glird > > > > > > I disagree with the last sentence. The C-60 molecule interacting with > > > > > the single slit could be shown to be incorrect by placing a barrier in > > > > > front of one of the slits. Send the C-60 molecule multiple times > > > > > through the unblocked slit. Then switch which slit is blocked and re- > > > > > execute the test so the C-60 molecule enters and exits the other slit, > > > > > which is now unblocked, multiple times. There will not be an > > > > > interference pattern because the displacement wave was not allowed to > > > > > physically enter and exit the available slits, create interference, > > > > > and alter the direction the C-60 molecule travels. > > > > > > The distance the slits are apart will effect the pattern. > > > > > > The red and blue lines in the image on the right here represents the > > > > > paths the photon wave travels:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experi... > > > > > > The photon wave is physically traveling the available paths and when > > > > > the red and blue paths are combined, interference occurs, altering the > > > > > direction the photon 'particle' travels. This is misinterpreted as > > > > > something is being erased. > > > > > > Something similar is occurring when a C-60 molecule is used in a > > > > > double slit experiment. The displacement wave the C-60 molecule > > > > > creates in the aether physically enters and exits the available slits, > > > > > creating interference, altering the direction the C-60 molecule > > > > > travels. This is functionally the same as a boat and its bow wave.. If > > > > > there is only a single slit the bow wave the boat is creating will not > > > > > greatly alter the direction the boat is traveling upon exiting the > > > > > slit. If there are multiple slits, the bow wave enters and exits the > > > > > multiple slits. The bow waves exiting the slits the boat does not > > > > > travel through will cross out ahead of the boat's path and interfere > > > > > with the bow waves exiting the other slits, including the bow wave > > > > > riding out ahead of and along with the boat through the slit the boat > > > > > travels through, and alter the direction the boat travels. > > > > > You may be right. :-) > > > > > glird > > > > There is no right or wrong. Only correct and incorrect. Right and > > > wrong are final. Correct and incorrect can change as experimental > > > evidence is re-evaluated (like delayed choice experiments better > > > interpreted as physical waves in the aether traveling available > > > paths). > > > > What we need is evidence of physical waves in the aether traveling > > > available paths. > > > > We need a modified version of:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_choice_quantum_eraser#The_experi... > > > > Where the downgraded mirror-image photons interact in such a way that > > > the aether wave of one photon (not containing the photon 'particle') > > > interacts with the aether wave of the other photon (containing the > > > photon 'particle') and an interference pattern occurs. > > > > What has to happen is the photon 'particle' of one of the photons > > > needs to be detected and the photon 'particle' of the other photon > > > needs not to be detected. The photon aether wave of the detected > > > photon and the photon aether wave (along with the photon 'particle') > > > of the other photon are combined. > > > > An interference pattern should still be created in this scenario. > > > > I know of no way QM could account for this because after the one > > > photon 'particle' is detected, that is it. There is no associated > > > aether wave and the other photon 'particle' has nothing to interfere > > > with so an interference pattern should not be created. > > > > Now of course, since QM is very incorrect, something will be made up > > > about delayed choice or erasers or some other such nonsense. But, this > > > experiment will be more evidence of physical waves in the aether > > > traveling available paths. > > > > Thanks!- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Einstein was the right one about Quantum Mechanics. > > > Mitch Raemsch > > Yes, it is incomplete.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Every theory is incomplete. If you do not see this you are not objective about your own theory. Einstein knew that QM was wrong in many ways. That is what I am refering to. But science had to judge him and they were wrong. Mitch Raemsch |