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From: mpc755 on 1 Apr 2010 11:12 On Apr 1, 1:57 am, ENTIKY05 <ENTIK...(a)Hotmail.com> wrote: > why is it incumbent upon me to "explain how > it can occur without aether?" > Your inability to explain observed physical behaviors without an aether, when the aether as a super fluid medium explains the observed physical behaviors, is evidence of aether. If it is physically impossible for anyone to comprehend how something can occur in nature, without resorting to absurd nonsense such as the future determines the past, when there is a perfectly reasonable explanation which not only answers the question being asked it explains what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity, it explains what occurs physically in nature to cause atomic clocks to tick at different rates, and it explains what occurs physically in nature in E=mc^2 where the mass does diminish but the matter which is the mass has not vanished it has expanded and transitioned into aether and the effect this transition has on the existing aether and matter is energy, then you might actually understand aether exists. A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. When there are detectors at the exits to the slits the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. If the detectors are placed and removed from the exits to the slits while the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) the C-60 molecule creates an interference pattern. Explain how this is possible without aether. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_de_Broglie "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that any moving particle or object had an associated wave." 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case of an external field acting on the particle." "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is located." de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of the wave. In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. In AD, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit while the associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the available slits. The displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no interference. > why are you so obsessed with Newtonmaia'a "photon?" > A photon is a directed/pointed wave which collapses and is detected as a quantum of matter. A photon propagates as a wave. The photon 'particle' (i.e. the portion of the wave which collapses when detected) occupies a very small region of the overall photon aether wave. A photon is a particle when detected. Why are you obsessed with not understanding this? Will it force you to revisit your incorrect understanding of nature?
From: mpc755 on 1 Apr 2010 11:30 On Apr 1, 1:57 am, ENTIKY05 <ENTIK...(a)Hotmail.com> wrote: > why is it incumbent upon me to "explain how > it can occur without aether?" Your inability to explain observed physical behaviors without an aether, when the aether as a super fluid medium explains the observed physical behaviors, is evidence of aether. If it is physically impossible for anyone to comprehend how something can occur in nature, without resorting to absurd nonsense such as the future determines the past, when there is a perfectly reasonable explanation which not only answers the question being asked it explains what occurs physically in nature to cause gravity, it explains what occurs physically in nature to cause atomic clocks to tick at different rates, and it explains what occurs physically in nature in E=mc^2 where the mass does diminish but the matter which is the mass has not vanished it has expanded and transitioned into aether and the effect this transition has on the existing aether and matter is energy, then you might actually understand aether exists. A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. When there are detectors at the exits to the slits the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. If the detectors are placed and removed from the exits to the slits while the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) the C-60 molecule creates an interference pattern. Explain how this is possible without aether. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_de_Broglie "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that any moving particle or object had an associated wave." 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case of an external field acting on the particle." "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is located." de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of the wave. In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. In AD, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit while the associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the available slits. The displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no interference. > why are you so obsessed with Newtonmaia'a "photon?" My preferred concept of a photon is as a directed/pointed wave which collapses and is detected as a quantum of matter. A photon propagates as a wave. The photon 'particle' (i.e. the portion of the wave which collapses when detected) occupies a very small region of the overall photon aether wave. A photon is a particle when detected. Why are you obsessed with not understanding this? Will it force you to revisit your incorrect understanding of nature?
From: BURT on 1 Apr 2010 16:41 On Mar 31, 9:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 1, 12:45 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 31, 9:09 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 31, 11:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave.. The > > > > > C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The > > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit > > > > > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits > > > > > the available slits. > > > > > > The C60 molecule could easily be replaced with any other molecular > > > > form and they will always have the exact same quantum macro aether > > > > wave. Free electric particles can wave collapse taking the macro > > > > aether wave with them. > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > The C-60 molecule can be replaced by any 'particle', including a > > > photon. > > > > Every moving physical 'particle' has an associated physical aether > > > wave. > > > > The size of the associated aether wave will be determined by the > > > 'particles' momentum. > > > > 'Particle' is in quotes because it is my assumption a photon is a > > > directed/pointed wave where the 'particle' is part of the wave and > > > consists of a very small region of the overall photon wave. > > > > The photon 'particle' is detected as a quantum of matter. > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality > > > > "His 1924 doctoral thesis, Recherches sur la théorie des quanta > > > (Research on Quantum Theory), introduced his theory of electron waves.. > > > This included the wave-particle duality theory of matter, based on > > > the work of Albert Einstein and Max Planck on light. The thesis > > > examiners, unsure of the material, passed his thesis to Einstein for > > > evaluation who endorsed his wave-particle duality proposal > > > wholeheartedly; de Broglie was awarded his doctorate. This research > > > culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that any moving > > > particle or object had an associated wave. De Broglie thus created a > > > new field in physics, the mécanique ondulatoire, or wave mechanics, > > > uniting the physics of light and matter. For this he won the Nobel > > > Prize in Physics in 1929. Among the applications of this work has been > > > the development of electron microscopes to get much better image > > > resolution than optical ones, because of the shorter wavelengths of > > > electrons compared with photons. > > > > In his later career, de Broglie worked to develop a causal explanation > > > of wave mechanics, in opposition to the wholly probabilistic models > > > which dominate quantum mechanical theory. Today, this explanation is > > > known as the de BroglieBohm theory, since it was refined by David > > > Bohm in the 1950s." > > > > de Broglie was correct. > > > The aether wave passes through two slits in an experiment but where in > > nature does that same event happen? Where in nature is there two > > slits? > > > Mitch Raemsch > > You are confusing the ability of the photon to create an interference > pattern in a double slit experiment with the ability of the photon to > collapse and be detected as a quantum of matter. > > In the photoelectric effect experiment, photons are physically > entering and occupying three dimensional space in the metal as quanta > of matter which causes electrons to be emitted. > > When a photon enters your eye it collapses and is detected as a > quantum of matter. This quantum of matter then 'radiates as heat'. > What is occurring after the photon is detected as a quantum of matter > is there is still an aether wave but it 'dissipates'. Think of an > ocean wave which propagates through a channel and is 'detected' by a > bunch of buoys. The wave still exists but it 'dissipates'. > > The aether wave 'dissipates' by interacting with matter which > generates heat.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Where in nature are there two slits? Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 1 Apr 2010 16:59 On Apr 1, 4:41 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Mar 31, 9:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 1, 12:45 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 31, 9:09 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 31, 11:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > > > C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The > > > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit > > > > > > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits > > > > > > the available slits. > > > > > > > The C60 molecule could easily be replaced with any other molecular > > > > > form and they will always have the exact same quantum macro aether > > > > > wave. Free electric particles can wave collapse taking the macro > > > > > aether wave with them. > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > The C-60 molecule can be replaced by any 'particle', including a > > > > photon. > > > > > Every moving physical 'particle' has an associated physical aether > > > > wave. > > > > > The size of the associated aether wave will be determined by the > > > > 'particles' momentum. > > > > > 'Particle' is in quotes because it is my assumption a photon is a > > > > directed/pointed wave where the 'particle' is part of the wave and > > > > consists of a very small region of the overall photon wave. > > > > > The photon 'particle' is detected as a quantum of matter. > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality > > > > > "His 1924 doctoral thesis, Recherches sur la théorie des quanta > > > > (Research on Quantum Theory), introduced his theory of electron waves. > > > > This included the wave-particle duality theory of matter, based on > > > > the work of Albert Einstein and Max Planck on light. The thesis > > > > examiners, unsure of the material, passed his thesis to Einstein for > > > > evaluation who endorsed his wave-particle duality proposal > > > > wholeheartedly; de Broglie was awarded his doctorate. This research > > > > culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that any moving > > > > particle or object had an associated wave. De Broglie thus created a > > > > new field in physics, the mécanique ondulatoire, or wave mechanics, > > > > uniting the physics of light and matter. For this he won the Nobel > > > > Prize in Physics in 1929. Among the applications of this work has been > > > > the development of electron microscopes to get much better image > > > > resolution than optical ones, because of the shorter wavelengths of > > > > electrons compared with photons. > > > > > In his later career, de Broglie worked to develop a causal explanation > > > > of wave mechanics, in opposition to the wholly probabilistic models > > > > which dominate quantum mechanical theory. Today, this explanation is > > > > known as the de BroglieBohm theory, since it was refined by David > > > > Bohm in the 1950s." > > > > > de Broglie was correct. > > > > The aether wave passes through two slits in an experiment but where in > > > nature does that same event happen? Where in nature is there two > > > slits? > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > You are confusing the ability of the photon to create an interference > > pattern in a double slit experiment with the ability of the photon to > > collapse and be detected as a quantum of matter. > > > In the photoelectric effect experiment, photons are physically > > entering and occupying three dimensional space in the metal as quanta > > of matter which causes electrons to be emitted. > > > When a photon enters your eye it collapses and is detected as a > > quantum of matter. This quantum of matter then 'radiates as heat'. > > What is occurring after the photon is detected as a quantum of matter > > is there is still an aether wave but it 'dissipates'. Think of an > > ocean wave which propagates through a channel and is 'detected' by a > > bunch of buoys. The wave still exists but it 'dissipates'. > > > The aether wave 'dissipates' by interacting with matter which > > generates heat.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Where in nature are there two slits? > > Mitch Raemsch You are confusing the interference pattern the photon is able to create in a double slit experiment with the photon's ability to collapse and be detected as a quantum of matter. When the photon hits your eye there is no 'two slits'. When the photon hits your eye it collapses and is detected as a quantum of matter. There are no 'slits' in the photoelectric effect experiment. The photon physically enters and occupies three dimensional space in the metal as a quantum of matter.
From: BURT on 1 Apr 2010 17:16
On Apr 1, 1:59 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 1, 4:41 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 31, 9:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 1, 12:45 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 31, 9:09 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 31, 11:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > > > > C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave.. The > > > > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit > > > > > > > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits > > > > > > > the available slits. > > > > > > > > The C60 molecule could easily be replaced with any other molecular > > > > > > form and they will always have the exact same quantum macro aether > > > > > > wave. Free electric particles can wave collapse taking the macro > > > > > > aether wave with them. > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > The C-60 molecule can be replaced by any 'particle', including a > > > > > photon. > > > > > > Every moving physical 'particle' has an associated physical aether > > > > > wave. > > > > > > The size of the associated aether wave will be determined by the > > > > > 'particles' momentum. > > > > > > 'Particle' is in quotes because it is my assumption a photon is a > > > > > directed/pointed wave where the 'particle' is part of the wave and > > > > > consists of a very small region of the overall photon wave. > > > > > > The photon 'particle' is detected as a quantum of matter. > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality > > > > > > "His 1924 doctoral thesis, Recherches sur la théorie des quanta > > > > > (Research on Quantum Theory), introduced his theory of electron waves. > > > > > This included the wave-particle duality theory of matter, based on > > > > > the work of Albert Einstein and Max Planck on light. The thesis > > > > > examiners, unsure of the material, passed his thesis to Einstein for > > > > > evaluation who endorsed his wave-particle duality proposal > > > > > wholeheartedly; de Broglie was awarded his doctorate. This research > > > > > culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that any moving > > > > > particle or object had an associated wave. De Broglie thus created a > > > > > new field in physics, the mécanique ondulatoire, or wave mechanics, > > > > > uniting the physics of light and matter. For this he won the Nobel > > > > > Prize in Physics in 1929. Among the applications of this work has been > > > > > the development of electron microscopes to get much better image > > > > > resolution than optical ones, because of the shorter wavelengths of > > > > > electrons compared with photons. > > > > > > In his later career, de Broglie worked to develop a causal explanation > > > > > of wave mechanics, in opposition to the wholly probabilistic models > > > > > which dominate quantum mechanical theory. Today, this explanation is > > > > > known as the de BroglieBohm theory, since it was refined by David > > > > > Bohm in the 1950s." > > > > > > de Broglie was correct. > > > > > The aether wave passes through two slits in an experiment but where in > > > > nature does that same event happen? Where in nature is there two > > > > slits? > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > You are confusing the ability of the photon to create an interference > > > pattern in a double slit experiment with the ability of the photon to > > > collapse and be detected as a quantum of matter. > > > > In the photoelectric effect experiment, photons are physically > > > entering and occupying three dimensional space in the metal as quanta > > > of matter which causes electrons to be emitted. > > > > When a photon enters your eye it collapses and is detected as a > > > quantum of matter. This quantum of matter then 'radiates as heat'. > > > What is occurring after the photon is detected as a quantum of matter > > > is there is still an aether wave but it 'dissipates'. Think of an > > > ocean wave which propagates through a channel and is 'detected' by a > > > bunch of buoys. The wave still exists but it 'dissipates'. > > > > The aether wave 'dissipates' by interacting with matter which > > > generates heat.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Where in nature are there two slits? > > > Mitch Raemsch > > You are confusing the interference pattern the photon is able to > create in a double slit experiment with the photon's ability to > collapse and be detected as a quantum of matter. > > When the photon hits your eye there is no 'two slits'. When the photon > hits your eye it collapses and is detected as a quantum of matter. > > There are no 'slits' in the photoelectric effect experiment. The > photon physically enters and occupies three dimensional space in the > metal as a quantum of matter.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - In your example the C-60 molecule goes through two slits. Where does that happen to molecules in nature? Mitch Raemsch |