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From: mpc755 on 1 Apr 2010 17:23 On Apr 1, 5:16 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Apr 1, 1:59 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 1, 4:41 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 31, 9:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 1, 12:45 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 31, 9:09 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 31, 11:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit > > > > > > > > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits > > > > > > > > the available slits. > > > > > > > > > The C60 molecule could easily be replaced with any other molecular > > > > > > > form and they will always have the exact same quantum macro aether > > > > > > > wave. Free electric particles can wave collapse taking the macro > > > > > > > aether wave with them. > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > The C-60 molecule can be replaced by any 'particle', including a > > > > > > photon. > > > > > > > Every moving physical 'particle' has an associated physical aether > > > > > > wave. > > > > > > > The size of the associated aether wave will be determined by the > > > > > > 'particles' momentum. > > > > > > > 'Particle' is in quotes because it is my assumption a photon is a > > > > > > directed/pointed wave where the 'particle' is part of the wave and > > > > > > consists of a very small region of the overall photon wave. > > > > > > > The photon 'particle' is detected as a quantum of matter. > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality > > > > > > > "His 1924 doctoral thesis, Recherches sur la théorie des quanta > > > > > > (Research on Quantum Theory), introduced his theory of electron waves. > > > > > > This included the wave-particle duality theory of matter, based on > > > > > > the work of Albert Einstein and Max Planck on light. The thesis > > > > > > examiners, unsure of the material, passed his thesis to Einstein for > > > > > > evaluation who endorsed his wave-particle duality proposal > > > > > > wholeheartedly; de Broglie was awarded his doctorate. This research > > > > > > culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that any moving > > > > > > particle or object had an associated wave. De Broglie thus created a > > > > > > new field in physics, the mécanique ondulatoire, or wave mechanics, > > > > > > uniting the physics of light and matter. For this he won the Nobel > > > > > > Prize in Physics in 1929. Among the applications of this work has been > > > > > > the development of electron microscopes to get much better image > > > > > > resolution than optical ones, because of the shorter wavelengths of > > > > > > electrons compared with photons. > > > > > > > In his later career, de Broglie worked to develop a causal explanation > > > > > > of wave mechanics, in opposition to the wholly probabilistic models > > > > > > which dominate quantum mechanical theory. Today, this explanation is > > > > > > known as the de BroglieBohm theory, since it was refined by David > > > > > > Bohm in the 1950s." > > > > > > > de Broglie was correct. > > > > > > The aether wave passes through two slits in an experiment but where in > > > > > nature does that same event happen? Where in nature is there two > > > > > slits? > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > You are confusing the ability of the photon to create an interference > > > > pattern in a double slit experiment with the ability of the photon to > > > > collapse and be detected as a quantum of matter. > > > > > In the photoelectric effect experiment, photons are physically > > > > entering and occupying three dimensional space in the metal as quanta > > > > of matter which causes electrons to be emitted. > > > > > When a photon enters your eye it collapses and is detected as a > > > > quantum of matter. This quantum of matter then 'radiates as heat'. > > > > What is occurring after the photon is detected as a quantum of matter > > > > is there is still an aether wave but it 'dissipates'. Think of an > > > > ocean wave which propagates through a channel and is 'detected' by a > > > > bunch of buoys. The wave still exists but it 'dissipates'. > > > > > The aether wave 'dissipates' by interacting with matter which > > > > generates heat.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > Where in nature are there two slits? > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > You are confusing the interference pattern the photon is able to > > create in a double slit experiment with the photon's ability to > > collapse and be detected as a quantum of matter. > > > When the photon hits your eye there is no 'two slits'. When the photon > > hits your eye it collapses and is detected as a quantum of matter. > > > There are no 'slits' in the photoelectric effect experiment. The > > photon physically enters and occupies three dimensional space in the > > metal as a quantum of matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > In your example the C-60 molecule goes through two slits. Where does > that happen to molecules in nature? > > Mitch Raemsch The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. It is the associated aether displacement wave which enters and exits the available slits. The aether displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no interference.
From: spudnik on 1 Apr 2010 18:01 slow down on that typing prowess, aetherboy!... of course, my inability to "be a physicist" doesn't mean a God-am thing, since we are both simply amateurs. now, "when a photon is detected" is just a word that you hear, that was coined to apply to the "quantum" of the "photoelectrical effect," that was measured by the device that was (certainly) tuned to the "electromagnetic wave energy" that triggered it, at that frequency; no more & possibly much less. > Your inability to explain observed physical behaviors without an > aether, when the aether as a super fluid medium explains the observed > physical behaviors, is evidence of aether. > A photon is a particle when detected. thus: as I was about to post, before the electricity glitched.... the notes per Maxwell, after eq.515, show that he was essentially using Huyghens wavelets, conceptually; good for him. I don't know how he used them, but Maxwell's eqs. are part of the algebraic programme to avoid the findings of Weber et al, using Ampere's "longitudinal force" experiments as a beginning. yes, the equations are "time-dependent," meaning that time is a dependent variable ... of course; forget Minkowski's infrotunate sophistry- then-he-died. interestingly, Hamilton at first devized complex numbers as a sort of a homogenous time coordinates on the line, I think; haven't studied it, though. > I don't doubt that quaternions might show what > you say. That is what Maxwell worked with. > > But time dependent Maxwell's equations > seem to work just as well and introduce the > student to some very useful techniques.http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node50.html > But the statement is in terms that reference a 4D space. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_number thus: how can you possibly demostrate (or believe in) a "vacuum that is devoid of matter" -- de void; how in Hell do you know that? > > be traveling in some medium. That medium was called aether. > > And since light can travel from across the Universe, ether was > > (WRONGLY) assumed to be located everywhere, equally. > > > When one says 'vacuum' that means space that is devoid of matter. > > Since ether is polar energy rather than matter, the ether can travel > > through the walls of any vacuum chamber and obstruct the flow of > > charged particles. That is why no electrons can be made to travel at > > velocity 'c' inside a vacuum chamber. The polar IOTAs of the ether thus: may be, you did not read the fullerene experiment too much; or, you'd be able to state a difference that waves of fullerenes make in their intereferences, compared to "that which can only *be* a wave-form," light. why cannot we finally bury Newton and his phoney corpuscular theory? if you do not wish to remain a part of the Second (secular) Church of England, look at *21st C. Science & Tech.* website. --NASCAR rules on rotary engines! http://white-smoke.wetpaint.com
From: spudnik on 1 Apr 2010 18:04 so, what are the properties of a fullerene, that would make it an especially good subject for the two-hole (Young) experiment? "turns it into chop" -- you mean, like choppy seas, and what *does* that mean? > the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes > decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it > into chop) and there is no interference. thus: slow down on that typing prowess, aetherboy!... of course, my inability to "be a physicist" doesn't mean a God-am thing, since we are both simply amateurs. now, "when a photon is detected" is just a word that you hear, that was coined to apply to the "quantum" of the "photoelectrical effect," that was measured by the device that was (certainly) tuned to the "electromagnetic wave energy" that triggered it, at that frequency; no more & possibly much less. > Your inability to explain observed physical behaviors without an > aether, when the aether as a super fluid medium explains the observed > physical behaviors, is evidence of aether. > A photon is a particle when detected. thus: as I was about to post, before the electricity glitched.... the notes per Maxwell, after eq.515, show that he was essentially using Huyghens wavelets, conceptually; good for him. I don't know how he used them, but Maxwell's eqs. are part of the algebraic programme to avoid the findings of Weber et al, using Ampere's "longitudinal force" experiments as a beginning. yes, the equations are "time-dependent," meaning that time is a dependent variable ... of course; forget Minkowski's infrotunate sophistry- then-he-died. interestingly, Hamilton at first devized complex numbers as a sort of a homogenous time coordinates on the line, I think; haven't studied it, though. > I don't doubt that quaternions might show what > you say. That is what Maxwell worked with. > > But time dependent Maxwell's equations > seem to work just as well and introduce the > student to some very useful techniques.http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teaching/em/lectures/node50.html > But the statement is in terms that reference a 4D space. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complex_number thus: how can you possibly demostrate (or believe in) a "vacuum that is devoid of matter" -- de void; how in Hell do you know that? > > be traveling in some medium. That medium was called aether. > > And since light can travel from across the Universe, ether was > > (WRONGLY) assumed to be located everywhere, equally. > > > When one says 'vacuum' that means space that is devoid of matter. > > Since ether is polar energy rather than matter, the ether can travel > > through the walls of any vacuum chamber and obstruct the flow of > > charged particles. That is why no electrons can be made to travel at > > velocity 'c' inside a vacuum chamber. The polar IOTAs of the ether thus: may be, you did not read the fullerene experiment too much; or, you'd be able to state a difference that waves of fullerenes make in their intereferences, compared to "that which can only *be* a wave-form," light. why cannot we finally bury Newton and his phoney corpuscular theory? if you do not wish to remain a part of the Second (secular) Church of England, look at *21st C. Science & Tech.* website. --NASCAR rules on rotary engines! http://white-smoke.wetpaint.com
From: BURT on 1 Apr 2010 19:14 On Apr 1, 2:23 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 1, 5:16 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Apr 1, 1:59 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Apr 1, 4:41 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 31, 9:55 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 1, 12:45 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 31, 9:09 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Mar 31, 11:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The > > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The > > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit > > > > > > > > > experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits > > > > > > > > > the available slits. > > > > > > > > > > The C60 molecule could easily be replaced with any other molecular > > > > > > > > form and they will always have the exact same quantum macro aether > > > > > > > > wave. Free electric particles can wave collapse taking the macro > > > > > > > > aether wave with them. > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > > > The C-60 molecule can be replaced by any 'particle', including a > > > > > > > photon. > > > > > > > > Every moving physical 'particle' has an associated physical aether > > > > > > > wave. > > > > > > > > The size of the associated aether wave will be determined by the > > > > > > > 'particles' momentum. > > > > > > > > 'Particle' is in quotes because it is my assumption a photon is a > > > > > > > directed/pointed wave where the 'particle' is part of the wave and > > > > > > > consists of a very small region of the overall photon wave. > > > > > > > > The photon 'particle' is detected as a quantum of matter. > > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave%E2%80%93particle_duality > > > > > > > > "His 1924 doctoral thesis, Recherches sur la théorie des quanta > > > > > > > (Research on Quantum Theory), introduced his theory of electron waves. > > > > > > > This included the wave-particle duality theory of matter, based on > > > > > > > the work of Albert Einstein and Max Planck on light. The thesis > > > > > > > examiners, unsure of the material, passed his thesis to Einstein for > > > > > > > evaluation who endorsed his wave-particle duality proposal > > > > > > > wholeheartedly; de Broglie was awarded his doctorate. This research > > > > > > > culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that any moving > > > > > > > particle or object had an associated wave. De Broglie thus created a > > > > > > > new field in physics, the mécanique ondulatoire, or wave mechanics, > > > > > > > uniting the physics of light and matter. For this he won the Nobel > > > > > > > Prize in Physics in 1929. Among the applications of this work has been > > > > > > > the development of electron microscopes to get much better image > > > > > > > resolution than optical ones, because of the shorter wavelengths of > > > > > > > electrons compared with photons. > > > > > > > > In his later career, de Broglie worked to develop a causal explanation > > > > > > > of wave mechanics, in opposition to the wholly probabilistic models > > > > > > > which dominate quantum mechanical theory. Today, this explanation is > > > > > > > known as the de BroglieBohm theory, since it was refined by David > > > > > > > Bohm in the 1950s." > > > > > > > > de Broglie was correct. > > > > > > > The aether wave passes through two slits in an experiment but where in > > > > > > nature does that same event happen? Where in nature is there two > > > > > > slits? > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > > > You are confusing the ability of the photon to create an interference > > > > > pattern in a double slit experiment with the ability of the photon to > > > > > collapse and be detected as a quantum of matter. > > > > > > In the photoelectric effect experiment, photons are physically > > > > > entering and occupying three dimensional space in the metal as quanta > > > > > of matter which causes electrons to be emitted. > > > > > > When a photon enters your eye it collapses and is detected as a > > > > > quantum of matter. This quantum of matter then 'radiates as heat'.. > > > > > What is occurring after the photon is detected as a quantum of matter > > > > > is there is still an aether wave but it 'dissipates'. Think of an > > > > > ocean wave which propagates through a channel and is 'detected' by a > > > > > bunch of buoys. The wave still exists but it 'dissipates'. > > > > > > The aether wave 'dissipates' by interacting with matter which > > > > > generates heat.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > Where in nature are there two slits? > > > > > Mitch Raemsch > > > > You are confusing the interference pattern the photon is able to > > > create in a double slit experiment with the photon's ability to > > > collapse and be detected as a quantum of matter. > > > > When the photon hits your eye there is no 'two slits'. When the photon > > > hits your eye it collapses and is detected as a quantum of matter. > > > > There are no 'slits' in the photoelectric effect experiment. The > > > photon physically enters and occupies three dimensional space in the > > > metal as a quantum of matter.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > In your example the C-60 molecule goes through two slits. Where does > > that happen to molecules in nature? > > > Mitch Raemsch > > The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit in a double > slit experiment. It is the associated aether displacement wave which > enters and exits the available slits. The aether displacement wave > creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction > the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes > decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it > into chop) and there is no interference.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Should not the aether wave be divided by the matter partition inbetween and come back together on the other side in order to self interfere? Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 1 Apr 2010 20:23
On Apr 1, 6:01 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > slow down on that typing prowess, aetherboy!... of course, > my inability to "be a physicist" doesn't mean a God-am thing, > since we are both simply amateurs. > > now, "when a photon is detected" is just a word that you hear, > that was coined to apply to the "quantum" > of the "photoelectrical effect," > that was measured by the device that was (certainly) tuned > to the "electromagnetic wave energy" that triggered it, > at that frequency; no more & possibly much less. > The 'electromagnetic wave energy' is the quantum of mather physically entering and occupying three dimensional space in the metal. Photons, quanta of matter, cause electrons to be emitted. |