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From: Rob on 22 May 2010 06:01 On 22/05/2010 10:52, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote: > On Sat, 22 May 2010 10:36:15 +0100, Rob<patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 21/05/2010 18:27, SteveH wrote: >>> Rob<patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 21/05/2010 17:17, SteveH wrote: >>>>> Pd<peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>> snip >>>>> >>>>> Amusingly, the combination of Nokia and I assume Windows makes >>>>> transferring photos from his phone to his computer 'painful'. >>>>> >>>>> Should have bought a Mac and an iPhone.... >>>> >>>> Actually, you say that - is there a way to do it wirelessly/bluetoothable? >>> >>> Yes - Bluetooth, you can browse most phones from the Mac. >>> >> >> Ah, OK. Is there a guide somewhere - blowed if I can figure it out, and >> seems I''m not alone: >> >> http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=11556431� >> >> It's good to know I can browse my iPhone from my Mac, though. If someone >> could just let me know how! > > It does depend on the phone's capabilities, and with the iPhone you > can't. Thank you mister Jobs. > I think SteveH said you can? Perhaps he means a jailbroken one? Not sure .. . . > Annoying? Yes, very. It's presumably due to having to pretend that the > iPhone doesn't have files. > Well, it'd be daft if it doesn't. TBH I only had a quick look/fail when I bought the phone, and haven't tried again since SteveH's post. It would be a useful thing.
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 22 May 2010 06:11 On Sat, 22 May 2010 11:01:03 +0100, Rob <patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On 22/05/2010 10:52, Jaimie Vandenbergh wrote: >> On Sat, 22 May 2010 10:36:15 +0100, Rob<patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 21/05/2010 18:27, SteveH wrote: >>>> Rob<patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 21/05/2010 17:17, SteveH wrote: >>>>>> Pd<peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>> snip >>>>>> >>>>>> Amusingly, the combination of Nokia and I assume Windows makes >>>>>> transferring photos from his phone to his computer 'painful'. >>>>>> >>>>>> Should have bought a Mac and an iPhone.... >>>>> >>>>> Actually, you say that - is there a way to do it wirelessly/bluetoothable? >>>> >>>> Yes - Bluetooth, you can browse most phones from the Mac. >>>> >>> >>> Ah, OK. Is there a guide somewhere - blowed if I can figure it out, and >>> seems I''m not alone: >>> >>> http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=11556431� >>> >>> It's good to know I can browse my iPhone from my Mac, though. If someone >>> could just let me know how! >> >> It does depend on the phone's capabilities, and with the iPhone you >> can't. Thank you mister Jobs. >> > >I think SteveH said you can? Perhaps he means a jailbroken one? Not sure >. . . Wishful thinking on your part I'm afraid. SteveH suggested it was easy to transfer photos to an iPhone - but that would be by the official route with iTunes and a cable. Once it's set up, it's all automatic and lovely. But wirelessly/bluetoothily? Not so much! (Unless Steve knows otherwise? I'd be interested too) There used to be a jailbreak app (iBluetooth) that ported a more complete Bluetooth stack into the iPhone, but it only works with iPhoneOS2 and doesn't start in OS3. The closest I know of is (jailbreak) iExplorer, which will browse SMB shares on anything on the local network, and is happy to copy files over. But that doesn't get them to anywhere the Photo apps on the iPhone can see. You then need a jb photo viewer, like iFile, to see them. >> Annoying? Yes, very. It's presumably due to having to pretend that the >> iPhone doesn't have files. > >Well, it'd be daft if it doesn't. TBH I only had a quick look/fail when >I bought the phone, and haven't tried again since SteveH's post. It >would be a useful thing. Welcome to Think Different land. 80% of the time it's right, 20% it's aggravating. But it makes for better kit overall, I'm convinced. Cheers - Jaimie -- I love children, especially when they cry, for then someone takes them away. -- Nancy Mitford
From: Jon on 22 May 2010 06:40 On 22/05/2010 10:36am, Rob wrote: > On 21/05/2010 18:27, SteveH wrote: >> Rob<patchoulianREMOVE(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 21/05/2010 17:17, SteveH wrote: >>>> Pd<peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>> snip >>>> >>>> Amusingly, the combination of Nokia and I assume Windows makes >>>> transferring photos from his phone to his computer 'painful'. >>>> >>>> Should have bought a Mac and an iPhone.... >>> >>> Actually, you say that - is there a way to do it >>> wirelessly/bluetoothable? >> >> Yes - Bluetooth, you can browse most phones from the Mac. >> > > Ah, OK. Is there a guide somewhere - blowed if I can figure it out, and > seems I''m not alone: > > http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=11556431� > > It's good to know I can browse my iPhone from my Mac, though. If someone > could just let me know how! > >> Or just send via Bluetooth from the phone. > > Again, I just don't see it - I have email/MMS options only. > > Thanks, Rob > PhoneView (shareware) is the best way via USB, Apple should have provided a tool like this from day one. http://www.ecamm.com/mac/phoneview/
From: Chris Ridd on 22 May 2010 10:34 On 2010-05-22 14:52:16 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh said: > It's the last bit that throws me - choosing Java and .NET as managed > environments strikes me as the wrong choice of examples. But > otherwise, sure - building managed environments is one of several > things that Apple does pretty well. I don't see any problem with that, > though the lunatic fringe of the OSS movement certainly would. I can't see Apple needing to do that. They've managed switching from 68000 to PowerPC to Intel relatively painlessly, and wouldn't see any benefit from having any kind of architecture-neutral virtual machine. What other examples of managed environments are you thinking of? -- Chris
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 22 May 2010 10:47 On Sat, 22 May 2010 15:34:18 +0100, Chris Ridd <chrisridd(a)mac.com> wrote: >On 2010-05-22 14:52:16 +0100, Jaimie Vandenbergh said: > >> It's the last bit that throws me - choosing Java and .NET as managed >> environments strikes me as the wrong choice of examples. But >> otherwise, sure - building managed environments is one of several >> things that Apple does pretty well. I don't see any problem with that, >> though the lunatic fringe of the OSS movement certainly would. > >I can't see Apple needing to do that. They've managed switching from >68000 to PowerPC to Intel relatively painlessly, and wouldn't see any >benefit from having any kind of architecture-neutral virtual machine. > >What other examples of managed environments are you thinking of? I may have misused a term of art that I didn't know? By "managed environment" I was thinking the walled-garden iPhoneOS ecosystem and the Mac hardware+software approach. Which has flaws (for those who don't like the restrictions that are imposed), but also great benefits (for everyone who gets nicely working software). Cheers - Jaimie -- "It's people like that who make you realize how little you've accomplished. It is a sobering thought, for example, that when Mozart was my age, he had been dead for two years" - Tom Lehrer
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