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From: Twibil on 19 Jan 2010 02:27 On Jan 18, 6:00 pm, Jürgen Exner <jurge...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I know, I know, I should be used to it by now, but the level of > geographic ignorance of some people in a certain country still never > fails to amaze me. It's not geographic ignorance. It's the utter incapacity to imagine that anything they don't want to believe in could possibly be true. After I caught him several outright lies, one Glenn Beck clone actually told me that the truth was "a Dumocratic talking point".
From: Chris Malcolm on 19 Jan 2010 05:10 In rec.photo.digital Twibil <nowayjose6(a)gmail.com> wrote: > US mass-transit systems could use a lot of improvement, but it's not > going to happen in the forseeable future as it's essentially a non- > profitable enterprise, and anything that has to be publically funded > is automatically labeled "socialist" these days by the far right-wing > fruitcakes. The problem with public transport is that it has two important benefits. The first is the obvious benefit to the ticket-buying traveller. The second is a very tiny benefit to everyone driving on the roads the traveller would have driven on if making the same journey by car. So if you try to make public transport profitable in terms of returns from ticket sales you price it high enough that it's not competitive enough with car driving to take much traffic off the roads. It's the same problem with everything which has those two important kinds of benefit: one to the person buying it, and another very small one to huge numbers of other people. Education is another example of that kind of thing. Health care is another. Those services are the wrong kind of shape to try to fit them into a profitable free enterprise system where the customer pays for the whole thing. That's why nations which try to do that, such as the US, end up with their public services in such a mess. -- Chris Malcolm
From: SMS on 19 Jan 2010 09:32 Ray Fischer wrote: > JerryD\(upstateNY\) <me(a)rochester.rr.com> wrote: >> -=-=-=-=-=- >> >> "Ray Fischer" wrote in message >> A classic example of patriotism being the refuge of the scoundrel.<<<<<<< >> >> >> If it makes me a scoundrel to not want America to turn into a failed socialist country like most European >> countries, so be it. > > Only a rightard would claim that European countries are "failed". But > then anybody who thinks that workers should earn less in order to make > rich people even richer cannot be all that smart. Fortunately you don't need a third position political party for those people that aren't all that smart, the Republican party is serving the purpose very well.
From: rendition on 19 Jan 2010 12:15 Ray Fischer wrote: > JerryD\(upstateNY\) <me(a)rochester.rr.com> wrote: >> -=-=-=-=-=- >> >> "Ray Fischer" wrote in message >> A classic example of patriotism being the refuge of the scoundrel.<<<<<<< >> >> >> If it makes me a scoundrel to not want America to turn into a failed socialist country like most European >> countries, so be it. > > Only a rightard would claim that European countries are "failed". Only a libitard would consider them preferable.
From: rendition on 19 Jan 2010 12:17
Twibil wrote: > On Jan 18, 6:00 pm, J�rgen Exner <jurge...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> I know, I know, I should be used to it by now, but the level of >> geographic ignorance of some people in a certain country still never >> fails to amaze me. > > It's not geographic ignorance. Clearly it is, in part. > It's the utter incapacity to imagine > that anything they don't want to believe in could possibly be true. Non sequitur. > After I caught him several outright lies, one Glenn Beck clone > actually told me that the truth was "a Dumocratic talking point". Anecdotal froth defines you. |