An Alternate Theory of Gravity (proposed by mpc755)
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From: NoEinstein on 29 Mar 2010 09:46 Aether is displaced matter. The aether is not at rest when displaced and 'displaces back'. The 'displacing back' is the pressure the aether exerts towards the matter. The pressure associated with the aether displaced by matter is gravity. Gravity is pressure exerted by aether displaced by matter. 'Frictionless supersolid a step closer' http://www.physorg.com/news185201084.html "Superfluidity and superconductivity cause particles to move without friction. Koos Gubbels investigated under what conditions such particles keep moving endlessly without losing energy, like a swimmer who takes one mighty stroke and then keeps gliding forever along the swimming pool." In the analogy the swimmer is any body and the water is the aether. Just as the swimmer displaces the water, whether the swimmer is at rest with respect to the water, or not, a body displaces the aether, whether the body is at rest with respect to the aether, or not. In the analogy the moving swimmer creates a displacement wave in the water. A moving body creates a displacement wave in the aether. 'On the super-fluid property of the relativistic physical vacuum medium and the inertial motion of particles' http://arxiv.org/ftp/gr-qc/papers/0701/0701155.pdf "Abstract: The similarity between the energy spectra of relativistic particles and that of quasi-particles in super-conductivity BCS theory makes us conjecture that the relativistic physical vacuum medium as the ground state of the background field is a super fluid medium, and the rest mass of a relativistic particle is like the energy gap of a quasi-particle. This conjecture is strongly supported by the results of our following investigation: a particle moving through the vacuum medium at a speed less than the speed of light in vacuum, though interacting with the vacuum medium, never feels friction force and thus undergoes a frictionless and inertial motion." A particle in the super fluid medium displaces the super fluid medium, whether the particle is at rest with respect to the super fluid medium, or not. A moving particle creates a displacement wave in the super fluid medium. A particle in the aether displaces the aether, whether the particle is at rest with respect to the aether, or not. The particle could be an individual nucleus. A moving particle creates a displacement wave in the aether. Aether is displaced by an individual nucleus. When discussing gravity as the pressure associated with the aether displaced by matter, what is being discussed is the aether being displaced by each and every nucleus which is the matter which is the object. A C-60 molecule displaces the aether. A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The C-60 molecule itself occupies a very small region of the wave. The C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment. The associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the available slits. When the aether displacement wave exits the slits it creates interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no interference. The Casimir Effect is caused by gravity. Each and every nucleus which is the matter which is the plate displaces the aether. The aether displaced by one plate extends past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the plates forces the plates together. 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "These are essentially based on the way in which quantities respectively characterizing the regular v wave and the internal u0 wave of the particle connect with the neighbourhood of the singular region. u0 would have to increase very sharply as one penetrates the singular region." This is similar to Einstein's concept of: 'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein' http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~history/Extras/Einstein_ether.html "the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places". There is a connectedness between the particle and the neighborhood. There is a connectedness between the matter and the aether. The state of the aether as determined by its connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the aether's state of displacement. 'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT? By A. EINSTEIN' http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf "If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2." The mass of the body does diminish, but the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished. It still exists, as aether. As the matter transitions to aether it expands in three dimensions. The effect this transition has on the surrounding aether and matter is energy. Aether Displacement is a unified theory. [All of the above was copied from mpc755's misplaced replies on my... "There is no "pull" of gravity, only the PUSH of flowing ether!" http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics/browse_thread/thread/a8c26d2eb535ab8/efdbea7b0272072f?hl=en& Please tell mpc755 what you 'think' about his theory, here! NoEinstein ]
From: Sam Wormley on 29 Mar 2010 09:49 On 3/29/10 8:46 AM, NoEinstein wrote: > Aether is displaced matter.... o has no measurable properties o is not detectable o doesn't exist
From: mpc755 on 29 Mar 2010 10:30 On Mar 29, 9:49 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 3/29/10 8:46 AM, NoEinstein wrote: > > > Aether is displaced matter.... > > o has no measurable properties > o is not detectable > o doesn't exist You must have missed this post. A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) detectors are placed at the exits to the slits. When there are detectors at the exits to the slits the C-60 molecule is always detected exiting a single slit. If the detectors are placed and removed from the exits to the slits while the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) the C-60 molecule creates an interference pattern. How is this possible with your 'understanding' of nature? Don't be shy. Go ahead and answer the question. I will take your next non-answer to be what it is. Admittance you can not answer the question without absurd nonsense such as the future determines the past. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_de_Broglie "This research culminated in the de Broglie hypothesis stating that any moving particle or object had an associated wave." 'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory Louis de BROGLIE' http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf "I called this relation, which determines the particle's motion in the wave, "the guidance formula". It may easily be generalized to the case of an external field acting on the particle." "This result may be interpreted by noticing that, in the present theory, the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave where the amplitude is very large, and it therefore seems quite natural that the internal motion rythm of the particle should always be the same as that of the wave at the point where the particle is located." de Broglie's definition of wave-particle duality is of a physical wave and a physical particle. The particle occupies a very small region of the wave. In AD, the external field is the aether. In a double slit experiment the particle occupies a very small region of the wave and enters and exits a single slit. The wave enters and exits the available slits. In AD, the C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The C-60 molecule always enters and exits a single slit while the associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the available slits. The displacement wave creates interference upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no interference. Your inability to physically explain the following is evidence you feign hypothesis: - The future determining the past - Virtual particles which exist out of nothing - Conservation of momentum does not apply to a downgraded photon pair - A C-60 molecule can enter, travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without requiring energy, releasing energy, or having a change in momentum. - Matter causes physical space to be 'unflat' but not move The following are the most correct physical explanations to date: - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - The aether displaced by the matter which are the plates extends past the other plate. The pressure exerted by the aether displaced by the plates forces the plates together - Conservation of momentum does apply to a downgraded photon pair. When a photon is detected its wave collapses which determines its spin. In order for the original photons momentum to be conserved, the downgraded photon pair have opposite angular momentums. - A C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit while the associate aether displacement wave enters and exits available slits - Physical space is displaced by matter. Aether is displaced by matter.
From: dlzc on 29 Mar 2010 10:58 Dear mpc755: On Mar 29, 7:30 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 29, 9:49 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 3/29/10 8:46 AM, NoEinstein wrote: > > > > Aether is displaced matter.... > > > o has no measurable properties > > o is not detectable > > o doesn't exist > > You must have missed this post. > > A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While > the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) > detectors are placed at the exits to the > slits. When there are detectors at the > exits to the slits the C-60 molecule is > always detected exiting a single slit. If > the detectors are placed and removed from > the exits to the slits while the C-60 > molecule is in the slit(s) the C-60 molecule > creates an interference pattern. They are up to particles that are (barely) visible to the naked eye, by the way, to still show quantum behaviors. I figure cars are next... ;>) http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124820013 (... probably enough memes there to lead to a published article) > How is this possible with your > 'understanding' of nature? The test apparatus provides a result based on the answer you seek. Slits, quantum particles, and detectors impress a bias; as well as the "fatlander" expectations that these start and end discretely, are confined in space, and are otherwise like "fatlander" objects such as billiard balls. The need for an aether arises from imagining an otherwise unconnected collection of bodies in the Universe. Since we know such is not the case... "fatlander" = macroscopic. David A. Smith
From: mpc755 on 29 Mar 2010 11:06 On Mar 29, 10:58 am, dlzc <dl...(a)cox.net> wrote: > Dear mpc755: > > On Mar 29, 7:30 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 29, 9:49 am, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 3/29/10 8:46 AM, NoEinstein wrote: > > > > > Aether is displaced matter.... > > > > o has no measurable properties > > > o is not detectable > > > o doesn't exist > > > You must have missed this post. > > > A C-60 molecule is in the slit(s). While > > the C-60 molecule is in the slit(s) > > detectors are placed at the exits to the > > slits. When there are detectors at the > > exits to the slits the C-60 molecule is > > always detected exiting a single slit. If > > the detectors are placed and removed from > > the exits to the slits while the C-60 > > molecule is in the slit(s) the C-60 molecule > > creates an interference pattern. > > They are up to particles that are (barely) visible to the naked eye, > by the way, to still show quantum behaviors. I figure cars are > next... ;>) > > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=124820013 > (... probably enough memes there to lead to a published article) > > > How is this possible with your > > 'understanding' of nature? > > The test apparatus provides a result based on the answer you seek. > Slits, quantum particles, and detectors impress a bias; as well as the > "fatlander" expectations that these start and end discretely, are > confined in space, and are otherwise like "fatlander" objects such as > billiard balls. > > The need for an aether arises from imagining an otherwise unconnected > collection of bodies in the Universe. Since we know such is not the > case... > > "fatlander" = macroscopic. > > David A. Smith What are they 'seeing'? Are they seeing the impact the associated aether displacement wave is having on the slit the C-60 molecule does not travel through?
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